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Old February 8th, 2016, 02:52 PM   #1041
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Bummer. Only 1,005' for nearly 3 million square feet, I expected more from Tishman tbh. What a waste of potential. Towers with such a huge square footage are megatalls in other cities ...
It seems that after the 57th street boom developers are still afraid to go big and bold.
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Old February 8th, 2016, 03:02 PM   #1042
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Hate Ingles work. His towers are boring deconstructivist boxes. NYC needed something like the Shanghai Tower here, or the SWFC, or something with an outline that wasn't another damn box! Wasted opp.

Every post of yours reminds me of:

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Old February 8th, 2016, 04:05 PM   #1043
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The height doesn't bother me, I didn't expect the mega tower once proposed, tho I thought it would be in the 1200'-1400' range. But it's another megatall in NYC, not bad.
I just wanna see better renders cause what I see so far really makes me not wanting to see any more of BIG in the city.
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Old February 8th, 2016, 06:02 PM   #1044
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Old February 8th, 2016, 06:12 PM   #1045
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Nice and simple design, reminds me of one design we had for a tower in the ASEAN skyline in nanning, but even better quality.
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Old February 8th, 2016, 06:31 PM   #1046
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Behold The Spiral, Bjarke Ingels's Terraced Addition to Hudson Yards
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Old February 8th, 2016, 06:41 PM   #1047
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Not too bad after all. Pretty solid design actually.
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Old February 8th, 2016, 06:43 PM   #1048
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Tricky box but acceptable for an office building.
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Old February 8th, 2016, 06:43 PM   #1049
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It would really look better with an extra 300 feet. Looks way too stocky.
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Old February 8th, 2016, 08:05 PM   #1050
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It looks like it was cut off. Something as simple as a chamfer on the final tier would go a long way to improve the design.
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Old February 8th, 2016, 08:14 PM   #1051
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...2 WTC's design is imo way better.
Also,the fashionable concept of "garden in the sky"just sucks!
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Old February 8th, 2016, 08:17 PM   #1052
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Agreed that the height is a disappointment. This was never going to be the 1800-footer we saw in the sales materials, but something in the 1200-1400 range seemed really reasonable. Now I guess 30 HY really will be the sole peak in the area (incredibly though it will be absolutely surrounded by supertalls and near-supertalls.) So in that regard, it's a bit of lost potential.

But I can't really complain about the design on its own. BIG took an inoffensive box and gave it a nice taper. It sort of evokes the hanging gardens of Babylon... although I'm still skeptical that those terraces will be anywhere close to that green.

And I do really love that interior space -- the endless, spiraling lobbies connecting each floor to the next -- even though it might personally give me vertigo. And you have to think that some tenants will prefer to partition their floors from the rest of the building, so in practice it might not be totally unbroken.

In all, this should slot in nicely next to 50 HY (it would really complement the staircase-y version we've seen in the models), 55 HY and the Girasole.
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Old February 8th, 2016, 08:26 PM   #1053
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It will also compliment the Girasole right across from it.
In fact that river view will be blocked by it.
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Old February 8th, 2016, 08:28 PM   #1054
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Also, looking at that overhead shot of Hudson Yards, it's very clear that the Javits Center's days are numbered.
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Old February 8th, 2016, 09:15 PM   #1055
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I like this much more than his 2WTC design. But I'm doubtful as to how practical those terraces will be hundreds of feet in the air. The wind and cold will not be very inviting. It looks cool, but I doubt people will be out there very long.
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Old February 8th, 2016, 09:20 PM   #1056
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too many people are drunk on the wine of the luxurious Manhattan condos. This tower is magnificent for an office building. It has the huge mass of the midcentury midtown office towers and gives it both height and an integration with the greenery of the highline and the new boulevard below. I didn't like 2 WTC because it fulfilled these concepts poorly. The awkwardly stacked boxes of 2 WTC looked out of place next to its monolithic neighbors. The Spiral in contrast will blend right into its environment and lacks the nonsensical cantilevers.

anyway, I like it. More height would have been cool, but then it would have lost some of its massive presence. Come on, how spoiled are we if we're complaining about the height of a solid supertall?

another cool promotional video with Bjarke: http://www.thespiralny.com/home/

and this rendering:

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Old February 8th, 2016, 09:27 PM   #1057
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i think it´s a great addition, but a bit bulky, IMO. I just hope the HY will get a few stone clad towers to break the monotone glass wall style CBD esthetics we see everywhere.
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Old February 8th, 2016, 11:16 PM   #1058
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That's a seriously great design. I know it looks like just a box with a green line spiraling around it, and I don't have any fancy architecture theory to back up my statement, but something about the design, something I can't put my finger on, just makes me go "woah!"

Perfect "less is more"-style from an architect I thought completely incapable of just that.
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Old February 8th, 2016, 11:31 PM   #1059
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A few more renderings, models and BIGs obligatory concept diagrams can now be found on the studio's website:

http://www.big.dk/#projects-tsp
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Old February 8th, 2016, 11:37 PM   #1060
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Linked to a couple from the BIG site that haven't been posted yet:











I do really like the way this meets the street. The terraces help bring in a human scale to what would otherwise be a pretty monolithic tower.
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