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Old January 29th, 2014, 11:20 PM   #1
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MISC | Pedestrian Safety at Grade Crossings

Hi, I'm brand new to this forum.

I'm doing a research project on engineered pedestrian treatments at rail grade crossings. By that I mean gates, z-crossings, that sort of thing, and not signage or signals.

If anyone has any pictures or knowledge of how to encourage pedestrians to cross where they should, and treatments to discourage them from going where they shouldn't, I would be very grateful for the information.
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Old January 30th, 2014, 12:38 AM   #2
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Your research strikes me as being lopsided, for it omits any element at discouraging where foot traffic ought to never cross. Plus review what you mean by -uhm- "engineered", right .. I mean, why not bother tabulating, for instance, railways' bookkeeping policies.
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Old January 30th, 2014, 03:49 AM   #3
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Many railways in the US, particularly NJ Transit, use short fences between a pair of parallel tracks to keep people from crossing where there is no crossing. Other than that, make the crossing appealing, with interesting paving patterns on the lead up sidewalks. If a lot of people cross at or near one particular location, it is time for a new crossing there. Also, the gate should be longer than the width of sidewalk. Just put signs warning to not trespass on either side and people won't cross outside of the designated area, mostly because of our sometimes irrational post-9/11 mindset.
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Old January 30th, 2014, 04:15 AM   #4
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In Japan, at pedestrian-only grade crossings within station limits, steel spike slabs are installed below rail level adjacent to the crossings, though the primary purpose of these is to prevent fare evasion by people trying to avoid the faregates. As for other areas within station limits, the use of high platforms tends to discourage entry into track areas.

http://hkuma.com/rail/kounai/kounai02.html
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Old January 30th, 2014, 04:22 AM   #5
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The launcher of this thread has masked the objective of his research, which leads one to conclude that its prime aim be the promotion of the abominable practice of having grade crossings period/full stop. Sheer corporate greediness is what it's striving for.
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Seen at 1'01" & 1'30", level crossing for pedestrian in a 100MPH zone
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While I agree that there shouldn't be level crossings on high speed or higher-speed rail, there are many places that they should be, particularly for Light Rail lines or lower speed lines. The alternative is to raise or lower the tracks, which will cost billions and make most rail lines impossible. Los Angeles has light rail lines that have become incredibly busy, and some of them have become particularly dangerous in the public eye. The reason is that people are so impatient that they will go around the barricades to get across the tracks, which is the biggest cause of pedestrian/train fatalities. The other is suicides. Unless you move into the 10 foot wide route of the train, it is impossible to be hit by one unless it derails, which is even less likely, unlike cars and buses that regularly leave their intended paths and crash into things. Improving the safety of at-grade crossings will greatly improve the public perception of the rail transit lines and people will actually support them in the name of safety, a key concern of the detractors.

Also, that Japan example is a great one. The closest alternative I have ever seen is at a strip mall in NJ that was forced to build a sidewalk by the town, and responded by embedding stones in it due to the danger of using it. Every suburban strip mall's entrance is designed to allow a car to exit off of a highway at the fastest speed possible, without paying attention to crossing pedestrians. The faster the speed it can accommodate, the more customers will be able to make that last minute decision to turn off and shop.


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Old January 30th, 2014, 06:43 AM   #7
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there shouldn't be level crossings on high speed or higher-speed rail, there are many places that they should be, particularly for Light Rail lines or lower speed lines
Should be? Queer to be not sharing any criterion validating your (bossy?) rationale. Plus therein lies a flaw with, e.g., L.A.'s, LRT grade crossings: Their inevitably becoming strained by 'unforeseen' traffic overflows.
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Old January 30th, 2014, 09:55 AM   #8
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Interesting question.

In Belgium, trespassers are an increasing problem because of the delays
they cause. It is believed that most trespassers enter the track domain
at grade crossings (don't ask me how railway management came to that
conclusion, I don't know). So the challenge is indeed to make sure that
people at grade crossing will remain on the expected path. Today the idea is
to equip grade crossings with devices like that, which would prevent people
from entering the tracks :

http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuw...Cones_Infrabel
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Old January 30th, 2014, 02:39 PM   #9
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It's very easy to enter any railway in Belgium. I don't understand why they would think they do it at grade crossings while railways in Belgiums aren't even fenced; Anyone with one braincell could get on any railway in Belgium

A few examples from my region

Build up area:
http://goo.gl/maps/1gIZd
http://goo.gl/maps/x22rs
http://goo.gl/maps/TNXhc

countryside:
http://goo.gl/maps/IKRLh
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Old March 8th, 2014, 08:55 PM   #10
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Supposedly, this very subject is poised to become trendy around Canada, for there's :gasp: suddenly been some lip service being paid to the dozens (grosses, actually) of deaths of foot traffic occuring each year
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