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Old February 4th, 2014, 03:55 PM   #21
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Nice list. Of course you could do some interpolation (would take some time) and show the results as graphs in MATLAB.
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Old February 4th, 2014, 05:30 PM   #22
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Nice list. Of course you could do some interpolation (would take some time) and show the results as graphs in MATLAB.
Change over years graphs would be nice. But would take a lot more afford to list it all for the previous years
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Old February 4th, 2014, 06:01 PM   #23
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Change over years graphs would be nice. But would take a lot more afford to list it all for the previous years
Yes, it's simply too much data. Would need some trained monkeys to feed the parameters into the program.
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Old February 5th, 2014, 09:52 AM   #24
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Yes, it's simply too much data. Would need some trained monkeys to feed the parameters into the program.
Well i am studying mathematics, so i am basically a parameter feeding monkey
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Old February 5th, 2014, 12:49 PM   #25
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Well i am studying mathematics, so i am basically a parameter feeding monkey
Welcome to the club fellow monkey. (BSc @ TU Wien, now going for MSc).
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Old April 18th, 2014, 05:16 PM   #26
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i tried to think about how to improve my list.

the first "flaw" people pointed out, is that it does not account for any buildings under 200m, for me this one is not a flaw, because i do want to penalize cities that have no tall buildings at all, for me hundrets of 100m buildings do not make a skyline, but rather a large spread out city. it is impressive in their own sense, but as a skyscraperlover it does not improve a skyline and wash the scores.
the second flaw, which is always the problem is that a building of 299m gets 1 point and a building 1m taller gets 3. there is a way to fix it, which will also make the data collection more complicated though. the solution that was named here was about making smaller intervals. making it go up by 50m is a good solution, but totally throws my point system out of order. another solution is, searching a function that fulfils my point system in the integer points i do already have and then search for the height i need for the other integer points i do not have. the easiest function that comes to mind of course is 0.5x²-0.5x (or 0.00005x²-0.005x) for x being a buildings height in 100m (1m). this of course only works for my point system up to 15 points, since by then the system turns to a linear system.

now i have two options, either i could give a building the exact score it gets via the system, for example a building of the height 321m would score 3.547 points, which would be the fairest calculation to be sure.

however, i would like to still represent the data in a diagram and also do like the fact of rounded numbers, so i go a step back and round the heights required for a new category, but this time for each individual point. for example 2 points require a building of the height 256m, i round that number down (because it is probably more interesting for people to see the number of building over 250m instead of 260m) and a building over that height and under 300m will get 2 points. of course there is still the problem of a building reaching 249m counting half what a building of 250m counts, but for all the taller buildings these differences in points get less and less important. it is a model and a model will always have many flaws and i keep the flaw to instead have a better visualization and can fill in data that is understandable instead of having to calculate a specific number rounded by a third of a point to rid of this flaw, but get other problems with the visualization.

so the more diversed system would give us these rounded numbers:

points - minimum building height
1 - 200
2 - 250
3 - 300
4 - 340
5 - 370
6 - 400
7 - 430
8 - 460
9 - 480
10 - 500
10+n - 500+20n

over easter i may experiment with this and make a new list that is also updated for today's data
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Old April 19th, 2014, 03:40 AM   #27
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There's always this resource which gives 1 point for every m over 90m built in a city. So a 140m building scores 50 points. Towers are excluded from this list so a building like the CN Tower scores zero.

http://tudl0867.home.xs4all.nl/skylines.html


World's 20 Largest Skylines
01. Hong Kong 91872
02. New York 38220
03. Shanghai 24544
04. Dubai 24228
05. Tokyo 23821
06. Chicago 17252
07. Guangzhou 16856
08. Shenzhen 16759
09. Bangkok 16408
10. Chongqing 12576
11. Singapore 12052
12. Manila 11479
13. Seoul 11020
14. Kuala Lumpur 10744
15. Jakarta 9819
16. Toronto 9472
17. Panama City 9088
18. Beijing 6749
19. Osaka 6600
20. Moscow 6489
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Old April 20th, 2014, 08:51 PM   #28
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Interesting way to evaluate the "skylines" the world.
Personally I prefer the second way of punctuating the skyline shown by the method of every 50 instead of every 100m.
Following the method of 50m from 200m buildings in LA (Latin America) would be:

City-Points (actual)

Panama City (22)
Mexico City (3)
Santiago (3)
Caracas (2)
Guadalajara (1)
Monterrey (1)

before the end of the 2020

Panama (23)
Mexico City (9)
Balneario Camboriu (8)
Monterrey (7)
Santiago (3)
Caracas (2)
Bogota (2)
Lima (2)
Guadalajara (1)
Valencia (1)
Buenos Aires (1)
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Towers are excluded from this list so a building like the CN Tower scores zero.
Towers are not excluded. They count for half their height. So the CN Tower should be worth >200 points.
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Old April 21st, 2014, 07:07 AM   #30
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Pretty accurate but it's hard to really come up with a list considering there are so many factors and exceptions, obviously a 200m building should not be worth the same as a 299m building.

Also, I know Chicago isn't booming right now but even in the future it still has an edge over some of the other cities on that list.
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Chicago has great layering and quality working for it, but that alone won't be enough to keep its position indefinitely.

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Towers are not excluded. They count for half their height. So the CN Tower should be worth >200 points.
You're right. Thanks for pointing that out.
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