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Old August 21st, 2015, 05:37 AM   #81
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As long as they don't stay. The Balkans have enough troubles without this burden.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 10:37 AM   #82
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The photo is from 5th of August. You can see some of the reconstruction works that are being done on the Skopje central train station.

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Old August 29th, 2015, 04:49 AM   #83
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As long as they don't stay. The Balkans have enough troubles without this burden.
Looks like this is the "solution" the EU has now found, they will pay non-EU countries like Serbija, Makedonia, Turkey and Tunisia to keep the refugees/migrants there in camps.

Currently, almost half the asylum seekers in Germany are from the Balkans (Kosovo, Serbia, Albania, Macedonia and Bosnia), taking away much needed resources from the real refugees.

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Old August 29th, 2015, 10:47 AM   #84
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Tkauzor, you are off your rocker. The debate about refugees from Kosovo etc. is merely intended as a distraction from the fact that German and other North European countries were caught totally unprepared for what is happening this summer. There was a wave of emigration from [email protected] last winter, but that has long since died down. At present, refugees on the Balkan route are 80% from Syria, second is Afghanistan, then Iraq: all countries where no-one can pretend that life is wonderful there (if you want to pretend that for the Balkans, go ahead).
Anyways, this is a railway forum, not "write whatever I want about world politics" forum. Please get back on topic, everyone.
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Old August 29th, 2015, 01:55 PM   #85
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railway station Ovce Pole

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Old August 29th, 2015, 02:51 PM   #86
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Thanks for the pic. I guess there is only one train per day on this route, and seeing as it takes two hours from Veles to Kocani, I guess it is not very popular. Any chance of this route receiving some modernization, extension, or is it rather a candidate for closing down?
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Old August 29th, 2015, 03:32 PM   #87
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Only the route trough the so called "Corridor 10" will be modernized (reconstruction of the railroad, of the train stations etc.), while the other routes in Macedonia will wait some better times, unfortunately.

The Corridor 10 connects Greece - via Macedonia - with Serbia and the rest of EU countries. For us also important is the Corridor 8 (Bulgaria-Macedonia-Albania), but so far nothing special happened. Only some statements for the importance of this corridor by the politicians and some small works on the ground.

Unfortunately, the station Ovce Pole (and many more stations on this route) are not part of the Corridor 8, so I don't believe that they will be reconstructed in near future. The same goes for the modernization of the railroad on this route.
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Old August 29th, 2015, 03:43 PM   #88
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Luckily, one of the train stations that are going to be reconstructed/renewed is the one in Gevgelija. Today it looks terrible.



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Old August 29th, 2015, 03:49 PM   #89
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Skopje train depot (not in the best condition, as you can see)

Skopje train depot (Macedonia),2014. by ikehpc, on Flickr

Skopje train depot (Macedonia),2014. by ikehpc, on Flickr

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Hpc - Skopje regional train (Macedonia),2014. by ikehpc, on Flickr
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Old August 29th, 2015, 03:51 PM   #90
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Few my photos...

DSC07252 by george k. 1981, on Flickr

DSC07253 by george k. 1981, on Flickr

DSC07258 by george k. 1981, on Flickr

DSC07254 by george k. 1981, on Flickr

DSC07255 by george k. 1981, on Flickr

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Old August 29th, 2015, 03:53 PM   #91
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The photos are from February this year...

[/URL]DSC07257 by george k. 1981, on Flickr

DSC07260 by george k. 1981, on Flickr

DSC07261 by george k. 1981, on Flickr

DSC07263 by george k. 1981, on Flickr

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Old September 2nd, 2015, 10:54 PM   #92
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WOW!

Those pictures look like The Third World heading North- which is the case

I find it hard to accept people claiming European "moral obligations" to recieve these people when all of the rich Gulf States have only recieved a grand combined total of 1500 of their "Syrian brothers".
Yes. The 3rd world stays outside Budapest Keleti now, the police closed the railway station and didnt let them board the trains, although they had valid tickets. Somehow some of them already went by train to Breclav, Czech Rep.
even further north so the next stop is probably Hovedbangården (!)

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Old September 3rd, 2015, 11:09 AM   #93
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Old September 7th, 2015, 04:45 AM   #94
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Great to see something here of the Macedonian railways.
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Old September 12th, 2015, 01:21 AM   #95
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Hi, can anyone in Macedonia tell me where the narrow gauge steam loco and train which used to be on display in a Skopje park (the park where the Pioneer Railway operated from 1948 to 1959) is now. There pictures of this train at:
http://www.heeresfeldbahn.de/lokomot...delok/228.html
http://www.hfwagen.de/heeresfeldbahn..._oo_skopje.htm

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Old September 12th, 2015, 12:28 PM   #96
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The train now is exposed as exhibition in a park in the Gjroche Petrov district in Skopje.

On the link you can find some of my photos of the train. They are from 2014. (Check the previous page of the flickr account, there are also other photos of this train)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/page33
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Old September 14th, 2015, 11:45 AM   #97
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Thank you so much for your help, Skopje.

Maybe you could answer some more of my questions:

- Do you know if 83-064 is still on display outside the railway training school near Lisice Depot?
http://www.internationalsteam.co.uk/...acedonia01.htm (bottom)

- Is it possible to obtain a permit to visit Lisice Depot to see the steam locos there (33-090 restored for film and dumped 62-112) and from whom?

- Do you know if 01-046 is still dumped at Veles Depot?

- Does the Skopje oil refinery still operate and does it still use fireless loco LBV-005?

Best regards, Thomas.
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Old September 14th, 2015, 12:02 PM   #98
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Thank you so much for your help, Skopje.

Maybe you could answer some more of my questions:

- Do you know if 83-064 is still on display outside the railway training school near Lisice Depot?
http://www.internationalsteam.co.uk/...acedonia01.htm (bottom)
Yes, it's still there. I saw it few days ago.

I will have to ask some of my colleagues of another forum about the answers for the other questions.
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Old September 14th, 2015, 03:20 PM   #99
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Thank you so much for your help, Skopje.

Maybe you could answer some more of my questions:

- Do you know if 83-064 is still on display outside the railway training school near Lisice Depot?
http://www.internationalsteam.co.uk/...acedonia01.htm (bottom)

- Is it possible to obtain a permit to visit Lisice Depot to see the steam locos there (33-090 restored for film and dumped 62-112) and from whom?

- Do you know if 01-046 is still dumped at Veles Depot?

- Does the Skopje oil refinery still operate and does it still use fireless loco LBV-005?

Best regards, Thomas.
- Do you know if 01-046 is still dumped at Veles Depot?

No the 01-046 is in Skopje.

- Does the Skopje oil refinery still operate and does it still use fireless loco LBV-005?

No.
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Old September 15th, 2015, 04:48 AM   #100
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Macedonia bought some high speed trains from China. Are they running? I don't see any pictures.
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