daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Airports and Aviation

Airports and Aviation » Airports | Photos and Videos



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old July 22nd, 2015, 12:54 PM   #141
Momo1435
-----アンジュルム-----
 
Momo1435's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: アルフェナンデンライン
Posts: 35,178
Likes (Received): 62826

Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodys Aeroimages View Post
Per an internal source with first hand knowledge. FedEx just committed to 50 767 Freighters. The deal should be announced later today or tomorrow morning.
Quote:
Originally Posted by PiotrG View Post
They also hold options for 50 more 767Fs. If you look at their current fleet, with 50 MD-10s and over 50 MD-11s, some of those options could be firmed in near future.

Fedex has announced it on their website.

http://investors.fedex.com/news-and-...t/default.aspx

Quote:
FedEx Express Plans to Acquire 50 Additional Boeing 767-300F Aircraft

MEMPHIS, Tenn., July 21, 2015 ... FedEx Express, a wholly owned subsidiary of FedEx Corp., today agreed to purchase 50 additional 767-300F aircraft from The Boeing Company as it continues to modernize its aircraft fleet to more effectively serve its customers. In addition to the 50 confirmed orders, FedEx also has options to purchase a total of 50 767F aircraft.

The 50 firm-order aircraft will be delivered from fiscal 2018 through fiscal 2023. Total capital spending for fiscal 2016 remains at $4.6 billion. The impact to capital spending in fiscal 2017 from this new order is immaterial. With this order, FedEx Express now holds a total of 106 firm orders for 767Fs from The Boeing Company through fiscal 2023.

“Acquiring additional 767F aircraft is a continuation of our very successful air fleet modernization program and will enable us to reduce structural costs, improve our fuel efficiency and enhance the reliability of our global network,” said David J. Bronczek, president and chief executive officer of FedEx Express.
The 50 orders will be delivered over a 6 year period, that's just over 8 per year and 0,70 per month. This could increase if the 50 options will also be delivered in the same period. If they will be delivered the commercial 767 line would come very close to an age of 50 years (production started in 1981).
__________________
Support your Idols
キタ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ฅ(๑⊙д⊙๑)ฅ!! ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━!!!
Japan Projects & Construction

Zaz965 liked this post
Momo1435 no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old July 22nd, 2015, 04:28 PM   #142
Woodys Aeroimages
Registered User
 
Woodys Aeroimages's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Mukilteo
Posts: 1,966
Likes (Received): 6565

Quote:
Originally Posted by Momo1435 View Post
Fedex has announced it on their website.

http://investors.fedex.com/news-and-...t/default.aspx



The 50 orders will be delivered over a 6 year period, that's just over 8 per year and 0,70 per month. This could increase if the 50 options will also be delivered in the same period. If they will be delivered the commercial 767 line would come very close to an age of 50 years (production started in 1981).
Boeing also sent an announcement via twitter.

Thanks to @FedEx for ordering 50 #Boeing 767 Freighters. Our team is excited to deliver! http://bit.ly/1OvwREL

https://twitter.com/BoeingAirplanes/...10181671227392
__________________

patel2897, Zaz965 liked this post
Woodys Aeroimages no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 22nd, 2015, 04:46 PM   #143
Momo1435
-----アンジュルム-----
 
Momo1435's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: アルフェナンデンライン
Posts: 35,178
Likes (Received): 62826

It's still hard to imagine that this is the biggest single order for the 767 ever.

It comes at the right time, Boeing just announced another cost overrun for the 767 Tanker project. Being able to deliver 50 more commercial freighters will keep the overall costs of the production line down.


The 10x 777F part of the order which was rumored has not materialized. It could have been that FedEx decided on taking delivery slots for 10 777F of their current order which were previously deferred. They have 10 delivery slots between 2018 and 2021, pretty much the same time frame as the new 767 order.
__________________
Support your Idols
キタ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ฅ(๑⊙д⊙๑)ฅ!! ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━!!!
Japan Projects & Construction

patel2897, Zaz965 liked this post
Momo1435 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 23rd, 2015, 09:14 PM   #144
Momo1435
-----アンジュルム-----
 
Momo1435's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: アルフェナンデンライン
Posts: 35,178
Likes (Received): 62826

Boeing booked the order last week, interestingly they only booked 46 767s for FedEx. They already ordered 1 earlier this year, they might order a couple more later in the year to reach the 50 from their press release.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/#/orders-deliveries
__________________
Support your Idols
キタ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ฅ(๑⊙д⊙๑)ฅ!! ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━!!!
Japan Projects & Construction

patel2897, Zaz965 liked this post
Momo1435 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 24th, 2015, 04:05 AM   #145
BBMW
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 102
Likes (Received): 35

KC-46 Question:

The prototype does not seem to have a wingtip device, either winglet or raked wingtip. Does anyone know the reason for this? I would think they'd want one.
__________________

Zaz965 liked this post
BBMW no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 24th, 2015, 10:22 AM   #146
Momo1435
-----アンジュルム-----
 
Momo1435's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: アルフェナンデンライン
Posts: 35,178
Likes (Received): 62826

This is what Boeing had to say about this after they removed the winglets from the early proposals for the KC-46


“Based on the USAF refueling requirements, the missions were not of sufficient duration nor conducted at altitudes that optimize the benefits derived from winglets,”

http://aviationweek.com/awin/kc-46a-...-x-competition
__________________
Support your Idols
キタ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ฅ(๑⊙д⊙๑)ฅ!! ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━!!!
Japan Projects & Construction

dirdam, patel2897, Zaz965 liked this post
Momo1435 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 25th, 2015, 07:06 AM   #147
fieldsofdreams
PH + SF Super Moderator
 
fieldsofdreams's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Manila • San Francisco
Posts: 18,805
Likes (Received): 11244

Some B757s and B767s I spotted at SFO lately...

American Airlines B757-200 (WL) (reg. N608AA)


IMG_1115 by Anthony Nachor, on Flickr

Delta Airlines B757-200 (reg. N635DL)


IMG_0827 by Anthony Nachor, on Flickr

United Airlines B757-200 (reg. N522UA)


IMG_0559 by Anthony Nachor, on Flickr

United Airlines B757-200 (WL) (reg. N598UA)


IMG_0896 by Anthony Nachor, on Flickr

United Airlines B767-300ER (reg. N660UA)


IMG_1097 by Anthony Nachor, on Flickr
__________________
Anthony or FOD the MOD • Urban Studies & Planning, SF State, UC Berkeley, and San Jose State
Philippine Forums • SF Bay Area Forums • Bay Area Transit • NEW! SF Bay Area and NorCal in Pictures
Photo Albums: Flickr • Photobucket • Instagram

San Carlos • San Bruno • San Mateo • Saint Helena • Ross

patel2897, mrsmartman, Zaz965 liked this post
fieldsofdreams está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2015, 03:52 PM   #148
Tom_Green
Dr.Med. Tom Green
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Frankfurt
Posts: 5,383
Likes (Received): 3504

Can anyone tell me why the 757-300 was not that well sold? Only around 6% of all sold 757 have been a 757-300. I could not find anything online what could be the reason behind it.

Why is the current longest single aisle plane the A321 10m shorter than the 757-300? A 737-1000 or a A322 could be easily build.

I think there is a space between a 737-900ER/A321 and the 787-800/A330-200
__________________
My trips around the World


Zaz965 liked this post
Tom_Green no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2015, 04:34 PM   #149
Bjarki
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Iceland
Posts: 373
Likes (Received): 159

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom_Green View Post
Can anyone tell me why the 757-300 was not that well sold? Only around 6% of all sold 757 have been a 757-300. I could not find anything online what could be the reason behind it.

Why is the current longest single aisle plane the A321 10m shorter than the 757-300? A 737-1000 or a A322 could be easily build.

I think there is a space between a 737-900ER/A321 and the 787-800/A330-200
One flaw of long single aisle planes is slower boarding and thus longer turnaround times. This makes them less attractive on shorter routes. A 757-300 makes most sense on routes where its range can be used to the full but that's a very narrow mission profile.
__________________

Zaz965 liked this post
Bjarki no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2015, 05:47 PM   #150
fieldsofdreams
PH + SF Super Moderator
 
fieldsofdreams's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Manila • San Francisco
Posts: 18,805
Likes (Received): 11244

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom_Green View Post
Can anyone tell me why the 757-300 was not that well sold? Only around 6% of all sold 757 have been a 757-300. I could not find anything online what could be the reason behind it.

Why is the current longest single aisle plane the A321 10m shorter than the 757-300? A 737-1000 or a A322 could be easily build.

I think there is a space between a 737-900ER/A321 and the 787-800/A330-200
The thing with the B753 is that, as @Bjarki pointed out, with a longer fuselage on a single-aisle, you have to deal with longer boarding times. I thought of another reason: the 753 uses a great deal of fuel compared to the A321 (which has comparable seating capacity and design than the 753), which meant, for airlines, saving money on valuable jet fuel, especially if you want short turnaround times.
__________________
Anthony or FOD the MOD • Urban Studies & Planning, SF State, UC Berkeley, and San Jose State
Philippine Forums • SF Bay Area Forums • Bay Area Transit • NEW! SF Bay Area and NorCal in Pictures
Photo Albums: Flickr • Photobucket • Instagram

San Carlos • San Bruno • San Mateo • Saint Helena • Ross

Zaz965 liked this post
fieldsofdreams está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2015, 09:20 PM   #151
Momo1435
-----アンジュルム-----
 
Momo1435's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: アルフェナンデンライン
Posts: 35,178
Likes (Received): 62826

You could say that it was 1 stretch to long for a single-aisle design.

- longer boarding times,
- ground performance compromised by length,
- less range then the 757-200,
- the size was to close to the 767-300 and A330-200 twin-aisle designs from that period,


And it came simply too late, with the 757-200 orders drying up around the same time as the 757-300 was introduced. It would have gotten more orders if it was introduced earlier or if the 757 family as a whole stayed popular.
__________________
Support your Idols
キタ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ฅ(๑⊙д⊙๑)ฅ!! ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━!!!
Japan Projects & Construction

Zaz965 liked this post
Momo1435 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 29th, 2015, 09:18 AM   #152
Tom_Green
Dr.Med. Tom Green
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Frankfurt
Posts: 5,383
Likes (Received): 3504

Quote:
Originally Posted by Momo1435 View Post
You could say that it was 1 stretch to long for a single-aisle design.

- longer boarding times,
- ground performance compromised by length,
- less range then the 757-200,
- the size was to close to the 767-300 and A330-200 twin-aisle designs from that period,


And it came simply too late, with the 757-200 orders drying up around the same time as the 757-300 was introduced. It would have gotten more orders if it was introduced earlier or if the 757 family as a whole stayed popular.
But wasn`t a 757-300 cheaper in use than a 767-200? The 757-300 weights 50 tons less.

Sorry that it is in German
http://www.aerotelegraph.com/airbus-...f-gegen-boeing

According to that Boeing thinks about a replacement for the 757. Airbus already reacted and build the A321NEO LR. The market are the East-West connections in the USA and the Trans Atlantic flights. A flight from Frankfurt to Chicago will be possible with the A321NEO LR.

I think if a new A757-300 or a A322 would be for longer flights (6-8 hours), than the longer bording time would be less relevant.
__________________
My trips around the World


Zaz965 liked this post
Tom_Green no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 29th, 2015, 01:09 PM   #153
Momo1435
-----アンジュルム-----
 
Momo1435's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: アルフェナンデンライン
Posts: 35,178
Likes (Received): 62826

It might have been cheaper to use then a 767-200, but not necessarily cheaper then the 767-300 or the A330-200.

The 767-200 orders had also dried up at the time the 757-300 was introduced, both types might have fallen victim to the same new market conditions.

Anyway, the 757 line will not be reopened. With Boeing looking at a new middle of the market platform as a new 757 & 767-200 sized platform they could come up with a large single aisle plane or a small twin aisle plane. Or with both, similar to what they did when they came up with 757 & 767 dual development.

It's also possible that they will just come with a response to the A321, making the new single aisle plane as long as the 757-200, which is longer then the A321. And also placing the 737-800 response directly between the A320 and the A321. As it's going to be a completely new platform they will have the freedom to look at the perfect size for it's intended missions. The market will have a big say in this, Boeing is already talking with airlines about this. It will be the market which will decide if their will be another new 757-300 / 767-200 sized plane. Hopefully we will soon see some more info coming out of Boeing to see in which direction they are steering this new platform.
__________________
Support your Idols
キタ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ฅ(๑⊙д⊙๑)ฅ!! ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━!!!
Japan Projects & Construction

patel2897, Zaz965 liked this post
Momo1435 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 5th, 2015, 01:21 AM   #154
koresh
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 4,273
Likes (Received): 1365

Qantas VH-OGR "City of Corowa" Boeing 767-300

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5yjzfEiq1s

koresh no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 13th, 2015, 11:13 PM   #155
Momo1435
-----アンジュルム-----
 
Momo1435's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: アルフェナンデンライン
Posts: 35,178
Likes (Received): 62826

Boeing booked an order for 1 767 from an unidentified customer last week.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/#/orders-deliveries


I don't know why didn't announced it as FedEx straight away, because I would be very surprised if it's anyone else as I don't expect the US Air Force to order a single tanker.
__________________
Support your Idols
キタ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ฅ(๑⊙д⊙๑)ฅ!! ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━!!!
Japan Projects & Construction

patel2897, Zaz965 liked this post
Momo1435 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 27th, 2015, 08:05 AM   #156
Woodys Aeroimages
Registered User
 
Woodys Aeroimages's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Mukilteo
Posts: 1,966
Likes (Received): 6565

N462KC KC-46A Prototype LN 1069 at the fuel dock today.

N462KC Boeing KC-46A (767-200) - C/N 41275 / LN 1069 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr
__________________

patel2897, PiotrG, 809anthony, Zaz965 liked this post
Woodys Aeroimages no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 29th, 2015, 03:29 AM   #157
PiotrG
庶民サンプル
 
PiotrG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: 第2PRL
Posts: 10,250

First 767-300ER for Westjet arrived in Calgary. LN396 C-FOGJ, former VH-OGJ in Qantas fleet. Frame is 24 years old, so it had to go through D-check before delivery. Winglets have been installed. No new bins, side walls or cockpit upgrade. W24Y238

__________________

patel2897, Zaz965 liked this post
PiotrG no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 29th, 2015, 09:59 PM   #158
fieldsofdreams
PH + SF Super Moderator
 
fieldsofdreams's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Manila • San Francisco
Posts: 18,805
Likes (Received): 11244

Not bad for long-haul flights indeed, with quite a comfy layout. It didn't show though if it has PTV on each seat (especially that WestJet is a hybrid LCC), but should this airline make it to Manila via Honolulu (as Manitoba wants to happen), it will definitely make a great impression for travelers on a budget (and opening up a major link to Asia in the process).
__________________
Anthony or FOD the MOD • Urban Studies & Planning, SF State, UC Berkeley, and San Jose State
Philippine Forums • SF Bay Area Forums • Bay Area Transit • NEW! SF Bay Area and NorCal in Pictures
Photo Albums: Flickr • Photobucket • Instagram

San Carlos • San Bruno • San Mateo • Saint Helena • Ross

Zaz965 liked this post
fieldsofdreams está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old September 3rd, 2015, 01:45 PM   #159
Momo1435
-----アンジュルム-----
 
Momo1435's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: アルフェナンデンライン
Posts: 35,178
Likes (Received): 62826

Boeing had used a former Thomsom/TUIFly 757 as their Eco-Demonstrator the last couple of years. Right now the plane is being used for the last task as Eco-Demonstrator...


"Saying goodbye to #ecoDemonstrator 757. Reducing environmental impact by reuse, recycling w/ @NASA @TUIGroup. #Boeing"

https://twitter.com/BoeingAirplanes/...14021795266560


__________________
Support your Idols
キタ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ฅ(๑⊙д⊙๑)ฅ!! ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━!!!
Japan Projects & Construction

patel2897, Zaz965 liked this post
Momo1435 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 5th, 2015, 09:20 PM   #160
Rumbera
S.L.P.
 
Rumbera's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: MX
Posts: 107
Likes (Received): 15

pax 767-300 available??

I have a question, maybe you can share your thoughts... Let΄s imagine at this point I want to order "X" amout of 767-300ER PAX verions. do you think Boeing will build those airframes even if it is a small order of "just" 10-15 airplanes?
I wonder this ΄cause Boeing is still building the freighter versions anyway. And 767-300 would be a fraction of $$$ compared to a 787-8.
__________________

Zaz965 liked this post
Rumbera no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 04:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium