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Old February 13th, 2014, 02:51 AM   #1
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MEL/AVV | Melbourne Area Airports

Can somebody explain why this mornings peak at MEL all landings where on runway 16? Take-offs used both runway 27 & 16. All incoming flights had to do "pirouettes" to fit into their slots. It was only a 4 knot sea breeze out there! For maximum efficiency they should use runway 27 & 34 for landings and takeoffs when there is only a light wind. Does anybody agree with this?
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Old February 13th, 2014, 08:16 AM   #2
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Can somebody explain why this mornings peak at MEL all landings where on runway 16? Take-offs used both runway 27 & 16. All incoming flights had to do "pirouettes" to fit into their slots. It was only a 4 knot sea breeze out there! For maximum efficiency they should use runway 27 & 34 for landings and takeoffs when there is only a light wind. Does anybody agree with this?
They might agree or disagree with you if they could understand the question? Exactly how many runways are there ?
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Old February 13th, 2014, 08:50 AM   #3
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We have 2 runways, the east-west (9 & 27) and the north-south (16 & 34). In light wind conditions you can use every direction.
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Old February 13th, 2014, 11:56 AM   #4
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Was it really necessary to open a NEW thread???? I recommend a search next time...

Melbourne Airports (MEL & AVV) - Pictures/News/Discussion

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=548727
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Old September 17th, 2014, 08:02 AM   #5
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Was it really necessary to open a NEW thread???? I recommend a search next time...

Melbourne Airports (MEL & AVV) - Pictures/News/Discussion

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=548727
This is the International aviation section thread. Also I suggest a name change for this thread to MEL/AVV Melbourne Area Airports.

Some updates by Soorox from the Ozscrapers thread.

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Highlighting MEL's Developments:

Airlines, services & changes:
- Air Calin increasing MEL-NOU services to x3 weekly from NOV
- United Airlines introducing non-stop MEL-LAX services using 787-9 from 28OCT, flights bumped to daily in MAR
- Qantas increasing MEL-LAX to x10 weekly seasonally; permanent from JAN, bringing back 744 pax operations
- Qantas adding extra services to AKL seasonally
- China Southern increasing MEL-CAN to x2 daily seasonally
- China Eastern/Shanghai Airlines increasing MEL-PVG to x2 daily seasonally
- Singapore Airlines extra x3 weekly services seasonally (x5 daily, 3 days of the week)
- Air New Zealand adding additional frequency to AKL seasonally
- Jetstar adding additional frequency to AKL seasonally
- Etihad Airways introducing flagship A380 services in 2016
- Polar Air will shift its ICN cargo services to SZX

Possible new airlines & routes for 2015 include:
- Cebu Pacific: MEL-MNL
- Thai AirAsia X: MEL-DMK
- Indonesia AirAsia X: MEL-DPS
- SriLankan Airlines: MEL-CMB
- Scoot: MEL-SIN
- China Southern: MEL-WUH

Terminals & General Construction:
- New airlines lounges in T2, Air New Zealand Lounge & Etihad Lounge (construction)
- New bus gates (2 gates) at T2 (construction)
- New Terminal 4 (construction)
- New transport hub (construction)
- Tri-generation hub (construction)
- Quest Hotels & service apartments (nearly complete)

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Old September 17th, 2014, 08:03 AM   #6
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Some of the concept plans for development of T2.

Screen Shot 2014-09-16 at 11.40.39 am by MDRX1, on Flickr

Screen Shot 2014-09-16 at 11.39.36 am by MDRX1, on Flickr

Screen Shot 2014-09-16 at 11.39.55 am by MDRX1, on Flickr

Screen Shot 2014-09-16 at 11.41.52 am by MDRX1, on Flickr

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Compared to whats there now, this would be a huge improvement.

The amount of light and overall amenity would increase dramatically, but delivering this without major disruption to terminal ops will be a huge challenge.

For those using the airport in the couple of years this would take, lets just say that it won't be the most pleasant place to fly from though.

The end result will be well and truly worth it though.

One thing I found interesting though, when you look at the concept image depicted in "More space and light" and compare that with "more retail options", it seems to look like a different design scheme being used for the roof. I prefer the overall scheme for the one in "More space and light", as the roof looks taller and more open.
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Old September 17th, 2014, 12:41 PM   #8
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Compared to whats there now, this would be a huge improvement.

The amount of light and overall amenity would increase dramatically, but delivering this without major disruption to terminal ops will be a huge challenge.

For those using the airport in the couple of years this would take, lets just say that it won't be the most pleasant place to fly from though.

The end result will be well and truly worth it though.

One thing I found interesting though, when you look at the concept image depicted in "More space and light" and compare that with "more retail options", it seems to look like a different design scheme being used for the roof. I prefer the overall scheme for the one in "More space and light", as the roof looks taller and more open.
Just standing back and looking at it all objectively - it seems like a good way to go could have been holding off the budget carriers for a few more years - and temporarily shifting international operations into the new T4. In that time the entire T2 could be gutted, and necessarily upgraded. Once complete - international flights resume from new T2, and T4 begins its life as the budget terminal. I know its a pie in the sky idea on my part - but moving all international flights to T4 for a few years (with the building itself serving as Customs, etc) and flights operating from bus gates) would allow the upgrade to occur much faster, without all the hassles of aircraft and passengers.

By this stage I imagine the precinct could then move onto T1 and T3 refurbishments beyond 2020.
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Old October 5th, 2014, 05:50 AM   #10
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Just standing back and looking at it all objectively - it seems like a good way to go could have been holding off the budget carriers for a few more years - and temporarily shifting international operations into the new T4. In that time the entire T2 could be gutted, and necessarily upgraded. Once complete - international flights resume from new T2, and T4 begins its life as the budget terminal. I know its a pie in the sky idea on my part - but moving all international flights to T4 for a few years (with the building itself serving as Customs, etc) and flights operating from bus gates) would allow the upgrade to occur much faster, without all the hassles of aircraft and passengers.

By this stage I imagine the precinct could then move onto T1 and T3 refurbishments beyond 2020.
Good idea actually (moving int'l passengers out and renovating the entire thing quickly).

The new part of the international terminal isn't that bad, but the old main part (including baggage, customs etc) is horrendous. Of course, compared to many US airports it's heaven - but in comparison to Asian airports which is what most Australian travellers know well - it's small and cramped.

The new designs are pretty good - they're nothing astounding but it looks like a cost effective way of bringing the terminal up to a very good standard.

Here's a 'masterplan image' for anyone interested...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...oy/melfutu.jpg
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Old November 9th, 2014, 12:42 AM   #11
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From today, you can also discuss developments found at Avalon Airport. That way, everything about Melbourne (AU) aviation can be discussed under one roof.
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Here's something from MEL:

AirAsia X A330-300, "Now Everyone Can Fly Xtra Long" (reg. 9M-XXB)


And from AVV:

Etihad Cargo (Atlas Air) B747-8F (reg. N855GT)

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AirCalin A320-200, "Nouvelle Caledonie" (reg. F-OZNC)

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