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Old August 21st, 2014, 10:32 AM   #2981
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Moscow in the near future....

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Old August 21st, 2014, 10:39 AM   #2982
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Old August 21st, 2014, 11:21 AM   #2983
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I love the little Dutch cities. Amazing.

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Old August 21st, 2014, 01:18 PM   #2984
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My new Top 10 List

1. Moscow
(The clear winner because it has the highest and most skyscrapers. Only the MIBC should be more integrated into the urban environment.)

2. Paris
(For me the number 2, because Paris with La Defense has the densest cluster in Europe.)

3. Frankfurt
(The German Mainhatten has the most balanced ratio of height of all skylines. In the coming years more skyscrapers will complement the skyline,
how Tower 1, Tower 2, Marieninsel)

4. London
(Very strong growth. In the next few years a variety of new projects is planned. However, since this divided in two clusters, I have chosen London only on the 4th place.

5. Istanbul
(Also a strong growth, perhaps more than in London.
But as in London are also the Istanbul skyscraper divided into several clusters. In addition, the skyscrapers in the individual clusters not mutually consistent.)

6. Warsaw
(Beautiful cluster with some new additions to the skyline in the last years. Good mix of old and new buildings.

7. Milan
(strongest newcomer with some towers in the pipeline. Moreover, milan has a very sophisticated architecture, that unparalleled is in Europe.)

8. Rotterdam
(Very beautiful skyscrapers that harmonize well together. Unfortunately there are too few new projects in the future. Also Rotterdam is lacking in height.)

9. Yekaterinburg
(Second newcomer in Europe with a surprising well-developed skyline.
We'll see hopefully grow more towers in the future.)

10. Benidorm
(The city has an amazing skyline with some skyscrapers. The majority of the skyline but consists of similar looking residential and hotel towers.)



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Old August 21st, 2014, 01:41 PM   #2985
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I love the little Dutch cities. Amazing.

Birmingham

if only the UK government moves some of the financial institutions to Birmingham and creates a larger airport in Birmingham the city will boom like nothing before!
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Old August 21st, 2014, 01:49 PM   #2986
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Near?
The piling for 2 left skyscrapers have already started. THe rest will have been finished by the end of this year.
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Old August 21st, 2014, 01:53 PM   #2987
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Old August 21st, 2014, 01:59 PM   #2988
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I don't think Milan is better than this.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=2985
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Old August 21st, 2014, 02:02 PM   #2989
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Old August 21st, 2014, 02:04 PM   #2990
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Old August 21st, 2014, 02:08 PM   #2991
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Wow! Nice shot. From this angle it looks very dense.
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Old August 21st, 2014, 02:17 PM   #2992
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Old August 21st, 2014, 02:22 PM   #2993
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Old August 21st, 2014, 02:38 PM   #2994
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Well I wonder why is that... Maybe stop invading countries around you and we will talk differently then.


This is typical for most of the European cities, where modern skyscrapers only begin to rise. You can see that in Milan, Vienna, Barcelona, Paris. It's because those cities are protecting It's historic centers. It's good for old buildings but usually not so good for new skyscraper districts - large distances between those and city centers, no housing, no gastronomy and shops (only offices) and the fact that they are sorrounded by highways tends to make those districts lifeless and unattractive. This is why cities with mixed use centre like Boston, NYC, Philly, Warsaw, Frankfurt, ec have advantage. American cities ususally don't give a sh**t about XIX-century buildings so they can be replaced with new skycrapers. Warsaw and Frankfurt were lucky (and unlucky, it depends how you see that..) because of destruction during WW2 - they had already space for new highrise development.
I agree with your explanation but this doesn't apply to Milan. Milan's Porta Nuova District is pretty close to the historical city center (some may argue it belongs to the city center) and the area around the Unicredit Tower is Italy's most famous fashion district, with nightlife, bars and restaurants. You have several underground stations in the Porta Nuova district and the city's two main railway stations. No highways. And many of the new skyscrapers in Milan are in fact residential: for sure not only offices.

Milan is to be compared to Warsaw or Frankfurt, not to Paris or London CW where the skyscrapers aim at shaping the "ideal city" according to the ideas of Le Corbusier. Milan's CBD is an integration of old and new just like Warsaw.
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Old August 21st, 2014, 02:44 PM   #2995
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Old August 21st, 2014, 02:45 PM   #2996
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european friends i must make compliments to all the photos submitted, Always beautiful and interesting, they know everyone and Europe show an ever expanding urban continent and Europe marvellous architectural , Yesterday, today and tomorrow
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Apfelsaft, yes ,but it's so beautiful that it's forever Young
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It's Warsaw (from a few years ago)
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Old August 21st, 2014, 04:30 PM   #3000
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I agree with your explanation but this doesn't apply to Milan. Milan's Porta Nuova District is pretty close to the historical city center (some may argue it belongs to the city center) and the area around the Unicredit Tower is Italy's most famous fashion district, with nightlife, bars and restaurants. You have several underground stations in the Porta Nuova district and the city's two main railway stations. No highways. And many of the new skyscrapers in Milan are in fact residential: for sure not only offices.

Milan is to be compared to Warsaw or Frankfurt, not to Paris or London CW where the skyscrapers aim at shaping the "ideal city" according to the ideas of Le Corbusier. Milan's CBD is an integration of old and new just like Warsaw.
Area of dense city core in Milan is so big that it is a little bit difficult to conclude who is right. I would say that Cathedral is in total center of the city (mix of funcions, geography and density). From that perspective financial district is a bit far, on outskirts of the centrum, but still in It's influence (and very close to main stations, which is good).
Meanwhile in Warsaw you can pretty easily say that It's central point is PKiN, wchich is a skyscraper surrounded by other skyscrapers.

But don't get me wrong, I agree with you that from functional and urban point of view Milans financial district is nothing like Moscow's or Paris' and more like the one in Boston.
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