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Old March 9th, 2015, 03:42 PM   #5301
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Old March 9th, 2015, 03:45 PM   #5302
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Old March 9th, 2015, 03:47 PM   #5303
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Old March 9th, 2015, 04:19 PM   #5304
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Kyiv is one of the oldest cities of Eastern Europe and played a pivotal role in the development of the medieval East Slavic civilization
I'm Slav by myself and Slavs didn't contributed a lot to civilisation to be honest. Besides The Kyiv Pechersk Lavra Kiev has nothing neat. On the other hand Reneisssance which started in Italy built entire modern world. Milan has it's Cathedral, Sforza Castle, Parco Sempione, Galleria Vittorio Emanuele II... It's Europe's capital of fashion and art. Saying it's big village is one of most stupid things I ever heard especially from some Eastern Slav. You can have your opinion, in my eyes it's very ridiculous opinion but ok, it's up to you after all but stop saying things like "Milan is a big village compared to Kiev" because the truth it's other way around. Kiev don't even come close to Milan importance in world history, architecture and art.
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Quality of skyscrapers in Moscow IBC is much higher than in any city in Europe
*Height in MIBC is much better than in any city in Europe. Quality? I call this bullshit, Moscow skyscrapers surely don't look sophisticated and classy like for example London or Milan ones.
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Old March 9th, 2015, 04:28 PM   #5305
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I have been to Milan a few times for the fashion shows. I am not very fond of the city but I would pick Milan over Kyiv any day. Of course I feel much closer to Italy as a Mediterranean but Ukraine is cool too. I guess 90 percent of the world would agree that Milan is better of a city than Kyiv though.

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Old March 9th, 2015, 04:28 PM   #5306
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I do not like to compare different cities. I didn't start the flame war.
BTW, I really like your country.
Well, you did. I was telling you that Kiev perhaps has density but not quality (IMHO) and you started to compare Kiev to italian cities such as Milan, only because I'm italian and you didn't like what I said...
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Old March 9th, 2015, 04:38 PM   #5307
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Old March 9th, 2015, 04:39 PM   #5308
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Old March 9th, 2015, 04:51 PM   #5309
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*Height in MIBC is much better than in any city in Europe. Quality? I call this bullshit, Moscow skyscrapers surely don't look sophisticated and classy like for example London or Milan ones.
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Do not tell me. Milan does not have anything like that. Neither height nor quality.
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Old March 9th, 2015, 04:56 PM   #5310
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I visited more than 300 cities on four continents, I was in Milan, so I know whereof I speak.
How often do you visit Kyiv?
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Mercury Tower = Quality??
"All that is gold does not glitter"

Other skyscrapers are interesting tho.
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Old March 9th, 2015, 05:06 PM   #5312
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I was in Milan, so I know whereof I speak
Tell us ... what you know???
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Old March 9th, 2015, 05:09 PM   #5313
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Do not tell me. Milan does not have anything like that. Neither height nor quality.
Milan and any European city have nothing like that but in terms of height. But making few fully glassed supertalls it's not how you define quality. Milan and London on the other hand have a lot of very elegant, classy projects. Evolution Tower is obviously interesting but that's it. What's really cool about rectangular, glassed Oko? It's height is cool that's all. Thats you, Eastern Slavs(especially Russians), making everything for show, desperately trying to legitimate your countries as part of civilised world. I'm harsh but seriously, I'm calling out Moscow quality and you show me ATROCIOUS and totally mismatched Mercury Tower to prove that those skyscrapers are beautiful? I admit those skyscrapers are imposing, and cluster is definetly best in the Europe but that's all. It's not classy nor elegant.
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How often do you visit Kyiv?
What a strawman argument...

And I'm really surprised that you have been in all those places and still think Kiev it's beautiful city with decent skyline.
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Old March 9th, 2015, 05:14 PM   #5314
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Mercury Tower = Quality??
"All that is gold does not glitter"

Other skyscrapers are interesting tho.
Okay. Mercury controversial building. But the rest of the skyscrapers that I showed better than any skyscraper in Milan. Moreover, I do not think that there skyscrapers in Europe is better than these. Ready to see your options skyscrapers better than CoC Evolution and Oko
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Old March 9th, 2015, 05:15 PM   #5315
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@ ilbonboo you are talking on my behalf too.

I mean I strongly agree with your point of view and it's exactly what I'd write.
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Old March 9th, 2015, 05:17 PM   #5316
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Thats you, Eastern Slavs(especially Russians), making everything for show, desperately trying to legitimate your countries as part of civilised world. I'm harsh but seriously, I'm calling out Moscow quality and you show me ATROCIOUS and totally mismatched Mercury Tower to prove that those skyscrapers are beautiful? I admit those skyscrapers are imposing, and cluster is definetly best in the Europe but that's all. It's not classy nor elegant.
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Old March 9th, 2015, 05:24 PM   #5317
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Milan and any European city have nothing like that but in terms of height. But making few fully glassed supertalls it's not how you define quality. Milan and London on the other hand have a lot of very elegant, classy projects. Evolution Tower is obviously interesting but that's it. What's really cool about rectangular, glassed Oko? It's height is cool that's all. Thats you, Eastern Slavs(especially Russians), making everything for show, desperately trying to legitimate your countries as part of civilised world. I'm harsh but seriously, I'm calling out Moscow quality and you show me ATROCIOUS and totally mismatched Mercury Tower to prove that those skyscrapers are beautiful? I admit those skyscrapers are imposing, and cluster is definetly best in the Europe but that's all. It's not classy nor elegant.

What a strawman argument...

And I'm really surprised that you have been in all those places and still think Kiev it's beautiful city with decent skyline.
1) You're talking about the style and ask that the beautiful in OKO? If this reasoning, what is beautiful in WTC 1 NY?
2) You are talking about quality buildings in London and Milan, but did not show any. Show me one comparable to the CoC. You do not have to show it. Because our skyscraper won the best European skyscraper on the site.
3) I agree that in London there is a good skyscrapers. But they are still worse than the Evo and CoC
If it is not, then show me a picture where there is the really beautiful skyscrapers which is better than these.
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But the rest of the skyscrapers that I showed better than any skyscraper in Milan. Moreover, I do not think that there skyscrapers in Europe is better than these. Ready to see your options skyscrapers better than CoC Evolution and Oko
Well, it's mainly a matter of tastes as for everything after all.
I think Moscow has some interesting and TALL skyscrapers but height doesn't mean that they are the best in the world or in Europe.
I like some of them but I also really like (some examples of Milan) Bosco Verticale, Solaria, Unicredit, Dritto and some others under contruction (Curvo and Storto). They are shorter but, to me, it doesn't mean anything bad. Their quality is excellent (Bosco Verticale also won the international highrise award 2014 and people come from all over the world to study it).
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Old March 9th, 2015, 05:25 PM   #5319
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A lot of trams in the city, a lot of clothing stores. Milan is a good place for shopping but the architecture of the city does not impress me. Florence is more interesting to me.

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If I understand you correctly, Western Europe is simply the best, and Eastern Europe is full of shit.
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