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Old March 21st, 2015, 12:45 AM   #5541
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Old March 21st, 2015, 01:22 AM   #5542
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...especially the ones who happen to live in those commie blocks. Come on, this is real life, not Sim City.
Yeah, but maybe bit by bit, slowly some of these commies could be torn down. I wish something could be worked out between the residents. But yes, I know it's a tricky situation.
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Old March 21st, 2015, 01:31 AM   #5543
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Bit by bit how? Do you even realise how much all those flats are worth? We can count - 120,000 Euro for one flat in the city centre. Multiply that for the whole building... 10 columns x 15 rows. That gives 150 flats worth ~20mln Euro + demolition + construction of a new building.

Until Warsaw will look like Manhattan, it is simply unreal.
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Old March 21st, 2015, 01:32 AM   #5544
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I am almost certain that all residents of Warsaw would approve such project.
Yeah, they probably dream of the day when they can be homeless. Oh happy days.
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Old March 21st, 2015, 02:22 AM   #5545
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Old March 21st, 2015, 04:05 AM   #5546
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The fact is that a lot of big corporations would pay the owners of those flats gladly. It is a matter of vision rather than the financial problems. I am certain that those apartment buildings will be gone in about 10 years if Poland keeps its gradual increase in the market. I am very hopeful about Warsaw's future.
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Old March 21st, 2015, 05:21 AM   #5547
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Bit by bit how? Do you even realise how much all those flats are worth? We can count - 120,000 Euro for one flat in the city centre. Multiply that for the whole building... 10 columns x 15 rows. That gives 150 flats worth ~20mln Euro + demolition + construction of a new building.

Until Warsaw will look like Manhattan, it is simply unreal.
I know. It's a complex issue.

But the center of Warsaw will never look like Manhattan if those basic looking commie blocks stand in the way of great modern high rises.
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The fact is that a lot of big corporations would pay the owners of those flats gladly. It is a matter of vision rather than the financial problems. I am certain that those apartment buildings will be gone in about 10 years if Poland keeps its gradual increase in the market. I am very hopeful about Warsaw's future.
This fact exists only in your mind
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Old March 21st, 2015, 04:50 PM   #5550
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Old March 21st, 2015, 06:39 PM   #5551
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Old March 21st, 2015, 11:50 PM   #5552
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That's true. Mercury City Tower is looking good with lights.

By the way, does someone know how big this, I think it's called "Dom na Begovoy", is? The biggest residental building is the "Copan" in Sao Paulo, but this looks also pretty huge.
I saw one picture before from this perspective, I think some two years ago. I always wanted to a new one. So thanks.
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Old March 22nd, 2015, 12:07 AM   #5554
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The fact is that a lot of big corporations would pay the owners of those flats gladly. It is a matter of vision rather than the financial problems. I am certain that those apartment buildings will be gone in about 10 years if Poland keeps its gradual increase in the market. I am very hopeful about Warsaw's future.
As for now there is only one block that will be removed, though it is mainly a former office building:





The situation is even that for now 90's buildings were destroyed or will be for new ones:





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Anyway, there is plenty of space to fill up before investors will have to search for other locations:



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Old March 22nd, 2015, 12:51 AM   #5556
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Bit by bit how? Do you even realise how much all those flats are worth? We can count - 120,000 Euro for one flat in the city centre. Multiply that for the whole building... 10 columns x 15 rows. That gives 150 flats worth ~20mln Euro + demolition + construction of a new building.

Until Warsaw will look like Manhattan, it is simply unreal.
How? with commies close to CBD?



Real lack of vision... ugly looking commie blocks stand in the way of great modern high rises...
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Old March 22nd, 2015, 03:10 AM   #5557
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Not lack of a vision... Just different times. Every action has a reaction. Blocks were answer for unbearable standard and state of streets in industrial towns.
When you look at this...:



vs this:


[this is Stuyvesant Town, hood from photo you posted, not some random park]

... you begin to understand.


Today streets are much cleaner, industries are gone, cars are clean and silent, and, most importantly, people realise that streets are good for social and economical reasons. The situation is much different now.
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Old March 22nd, 2015, 03:38 AM   #5558
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Old March 22nd, 2015, 01:38 PM   #5559
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Switzerland plans tallest skyscraper in West Europe.


Swiss Plan For West Europe’s Tallest Skyscraper In Vals.

Plans are being drawn up to build the tallest skyscraper in West Europe at a remote spa resort high in the Swiss Alps.

The proposed 381-meter-high building would tower over London's The Shard, which measures 309 meters.

Developers want to build it on the outskirts of Vals, a tiny spa town of just 1,000 people, nestled 1,219 meters up in the Swiss Alps.

It would not be the headquarters of some particularly secretive Swiss bank. It is a proposed luxury hotel, aimed at guests from the Middle East and Asia.

The proposed tower will reportedly contain around 100 suites, with the cheapest priced at around $1313 a night, and the most expensive at an eye-watering $32,821.

The project, which will reportedly cost around $263 million is to be officially unveiled next week in Zurich.

According to a report in Schweiz am Sonntag newspaper, the developers have chosen a plan by the prize-winning American architect, Thom Mayne.

The tower will rise from an extremely small base, measuring just 30 meters by 15 meters, and will have to be anchored in the ground by unusually deep foundations.

The project is the brainchild of Remo Stoffel, the owner of the Vals spa, and Pius Truffer, a local quarry entrepreneur.

"I know we're reaching for the stars. We want to build one of the five best hotels in the world," Truffer told 20 Minuten newspaper.

But the proposed skyscraper has already come in for heavy criticism in Switzerland.

"Skyscrapers in the Alps are an absurdity," said Vittorio Lampugnani, Professor of Architecture at the Federal Institute of Technology (ETH) in Zurich.

“There is no need to accommodate people in such a small space in the mountains,” he said.



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Old March 22nd, 2015, 02:29 PM   #5560
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It will not be the highest supertall in Europe just for two reasons: Akhmat Tower in Grozny (400 meters) and Lakhta Center in St. Petersburg (462 meters). But I'm not sure that first one will be ever completed...
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