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Old March 26th, 2014, 01:16 PM   #561
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Old March 26th, 2014, 04:55 PM   #562
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Old March 26th, 2014, 10:27 PM   #564
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Old March 26th, 2014, 10:39 PM   #565
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Europe's two top skylines:

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Frankfurt's got the height and uniqueness, Paris got the size and density
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Old March 27th, 2014, 12:03 AM   #566
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Old March 27th, 2014, 12:24 AM   #567
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Flickr has changed it's interface, so we can't credit the Flickr photos via the BB code. Mods?...what to do?
I don't know. I'll have to ask Yellow Fever. Flickr has become useless to me and now I use Photobucket.
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Old March 27th, 2014, 12:39 AM   #568
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The building site is for the Q22 (159m), the second tower on the right (with the Mercedes star) will be demolished this year and replaced with a 188m tower (UBS tower) and further behind it will come a tower that can reach over 200m and likely will be designed by Norman Foster


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Old March 27th, 2014, 05:29 AM   #569
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London is the best European skyline.. it has the best quality skyscrapers and the most unique and aesthetic too .. Plus it is Europes' biggest city by far .. so it's density is immense ..

1 London
2 Moscow
3 Paris
4 Frankfurt
5 Warsaw
6 Rotterdam
7 The Hague
8 Vienna
9 Milan
10 Madrid
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London is the best European skyline.. it has the best quality skyscrapers and the most unique and aesthetic too .. Plus it is Europes' biggest city by far .. so it's density is immense ..

1 London
2 Moscow
3 Paris
4 Frankfurt
5 Warsaw
6 Rotterdam
7 The Hague
8 Vienna
9 Milan
10 Madrid
So you think even Madrid has a better skyline than Istanbul?

Oh and about being "large". London metro area is more than twice the size of Istanbul. However, population of Istanbul is almost twice of London. Please explain how's London the largest and the densest city in Europe. I am just wondering (This is not a city bashing. London is my favorite European city. I actually am wondering.)

The largest cities in Europe


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Largest_cities_in_Europe

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Old March 27th, 2014, 05:42 AM   #571
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Old March 27th, 2014, 07:43 AM   #572
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I don't know. I'll have to ask Yellow Fever. Flickr has become useless to me and now I use Photobucket.
The admins are still deciding what to do with embedding flickr photos, but for now we just have to do this way..

Go to share picture, then click the pin and select the image size and HTML, then copy the url. After that, click the chain like icon on the left side to copy the link to the photo and paste it below the image you are posting.

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Old March 27th, 2014, 11:48 AM   #574
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The admins are still deciding what to do with embedding flickr photos, but for now we just have to do this way...
Thank you for clearing that up
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Old March 27th, 2014, 12:14 PM   #575
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Good question!
As always with these debates, people are arguing apples with oranges because of the way statistics are made in different countries.

There is no clear and fair comparison between those three cities, but a few more "facts".

Density.

London: 5,285/km2

Moscow: 4,581.24 /km2

Istanbul: 2,725/km2

Metro Population.

Istanbul: as far as I can tell it's 14,160,467, the same figure that was posted below as being the city proper.

Moscow: Roughly 15 million. That includes Moscow proper and parts of Moscow Oblast, an area 35% of the size of England. I'm guessing the parts included are just the major cities within the Oblast.

London: 13,709,000 including Satellite towns in the South East. Most of these towns would have been swallowed up years ago if the city had been allowed to sprawl out. I'm not sure what area this covers, but it's far smaller than the size of Moscow Oblast. If London's metro area were taken as being the same size as Moscow's you would have to include Birmingham as part of the Metro area.

So yeah, apples and oranges.
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You're quoting me as saying "Good question" when this is actually the question I'm responding to:

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So you think even Madrid has a better skyline than Istanbul?
It was the only question in his post that he asked.
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Old March 27th, 2014, 12:44 PM   #577
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Old March 27th, 2014, 01:05 PM   #578
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London: 5,285/km2

Moscow: 4,581.24 /km2

Istanbul: 2,725/km2
Density can be measured in different ways.
Here is some data, translation is bad and it is outdated but you can see the idea (zone name - square, population, density):
1) City of London - 26 sq. km, 0.2 mln, 7 692.3 people/sq. km
Moscow within Garden ring - 18.7, 0.2, 12 830

2) City + 12 closer districts - 311, 2.4, 7 717
"Old Moscow" within railroad ring - 80, 1.9, 23 750

3) "Big London" -
1 579, 7.1, 4 518
Moscow old boundaries (mainly within MKAD) - 994, 8.6, 8 588

4) "Greater London" ("first metro") -

5 400, 9.8, 1 814
Moscow with closest suburbs -
2 600, 9.8, 3 752

5) London metro -
11 400, 12.4, 1 090.1
Moscow metro -
13 400, 13, 970.4

6) London region - 27 400, 17.2, 628.3
Moscow oblast - 47 000, 14.7, 313.6

source in russian

As you can see, Moscow is actually a lot denser in its central parts, and gets behind with suburbs, when London sprawl comes in. One can easy see, why is that - Moscow has a lot of highrises, while London has mainly lowrise buildings. Moscow residential areas often look like this:
















I have serious doubts, that there are some method of calculation that
one can use to prove that London population is bigger then Moscow,
other then using the biggest urban zone with all the sprawled towns.

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Metro Population.

Moscow: Roughly 15 million. That includes Moscow proper and parts of Moscow Oblast, an area 35% of the size of England. I'm guessing the parts included are just the major cities within the Oblast.
That's right, You are. It include only places that are actually close and those people work in Moscow.


UPD: found a great map with density of Moscow districts, click any colored thing to get its
population and density - many of them has bigger then 10 000 pop/km2.
Novokosino has 105 206 people (2013 estimate) within 3.6 km² – Density: 29,223.9 inh./km².
More interesting, it is situated outside of MKAD, more then 15 km from Kremlin.
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Stop the off topic guys please


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Stop the off topic guys please
It is not off topic. This is a discussion thread. People discuss "density" which is absolutely related to urbanization and therefore urban core skylines. We erect skyscrapers because our cities get too dense and we no longer have enough lands in the core to build on. So, we make taller buildings. No one builds skyscrapers just because they are pretty to look at. Skyscrapers are a result of fast growth in population and they are built to satisfy the needs of cities. Again this is not a photography thread.

DISCUSS.

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