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Old September 6th, 2015, 09:32 PM   #7161
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Old September 6th, 2015, 10:10 PM   #7162
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Old September 6th, 2015, 11:46 PM   #7163
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Top Ten skylines in Europe
My personal updated top 6 (there is no Top 10 in Europe):

1. Frankfurt (Americanesque downtown skyline feel, best overall)
2. Warsaw (only true downtown skyline in Europe next to Frankfurt, I never really considered Warsaw in my Top 3 but it keeps growing and growing...)
3. Istanbul (some nice towers + beautiful natural setting)
4. London (huge city, so it needs a lot more towers, might take another 10 years or so to become #1)
5. Paris (pretty dense, but I don't like the designs of most towers)
6. Moscow (not a real skyline yet, just a cluster of tall towers)
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Old September 7th, 2015, 03:24 AM   #7164
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Old September 7th, 2015, 11:13 AM   #7165
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Old September 7th, 2015, 11:28 AM   #7166
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Old September 7th, 2015, 03:27 PM   #7167
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My top 5 clusters as of now

1. Paris: Great density, great diversity (towers from 60s -> 2015), beautiful glass canions, good skyline. BUT not very well integrated into city
2. Moscow: Beautiful towers, great height, good density, good skyline. BUT not very well integrated into city
3. Frankfurt: Some beautiful towers, very good skyline with a pinnacle point, great integration into city. BUT too spread out
4. London Canary Wharf: Some beautiful towers, good density, very good ordered skyline. BUT too grey, not well integrated into city
5. Warsaw: Good Diversity, great integration into city, some beautiful buildings. BUT too spread out with somewhat boring skyline


The impression I am getting regarding the growth of skylines in Europe is that different cities have gone for different models, and this is why it is so hard to judge:

- Moscow, Paris, Madrid, Milan, Canary Wharf: designating a purpose built business cluster zone to meet the demands of the 21st century whilst retaining the historical heritage of the city

- Frankfurt, Warsaw, Rotterdam: American style downtown with towers growing in the center following the pattern of the city.

- London, Istanbul: free market approach where towers can sprout anywhere (pretty much) and in any way that developers feel there is profit to be made.
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Old September 7th, 2015, 04:08 PM   #7168
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Old September 7th, 2015, 04:54 PM   #7169
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Old September 7th, 2015, 05:38 PM   #7170
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Old September 7th, 2015, 07:05 PM   #7171
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Old September 7th, 2015, 08:17 PM   #7172
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Old September 7th, 2015, 10:34 PM   #7173
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My top 5 clusters as of now


The impression I am getting regarding the growth of skylines in Europe is that different cities have gone for different models, and this is why it is so hard to judge:

- Moscow, Paris, Madrid, Milan, Canary Wharf: designating a purpose built business cluster zone to meet the demands of the 21st century whilst retaining the historical heritage of the city

- Frankfurt, Warsaw, Rotterdam: American style downtown with towers growing in the center following the pattern of the city.

- London, Istanbul: free market approach where towers can sprout anywhere (pretty much) and in any way that developers feel there is profit to be made.
Actually most of the skyscrapers in Milan are in the city center close to buildings of different periods.
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Old September 8th, 2015, 04:09 PM   #7174
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Old September 8th, 2015, 10:22 PM   #7175
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Old September 8th, 2015, 11:42 PM   #7176
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Old September 9th, 2015, 12:11 AM   #7177
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NOT A RANKING.


FRANKFURT

Frankfurt looks great, good height and no cheap cladding.
Because it allready has a good established skyline it would only take a few more towers to make it really impressive. There seems to be a flurry of projects recently so it could be an interesting one to watch over next 2/3 years.


MOSCOW

Moscow has by far the best height in europe and some of the towers are top quality.
They are maybe a bit too close to each other but now some of the smaller towers are going up its starting too look more like an organic skyline than cluster, it will take a few more tho to make that more visibly apparent. Moscow like london and istanbul has areas right across the city where towers are built which shows its massive size.


LONDON

London has good height and the best quality towers in europe but they are spread over multiple clusters which makes it less dense. Soon that won't be a problem tho as canary wharf/docklands will, on its own, be bigger and denser than La Défense/frankfurt etc.
The city cluster is where the best quality towers are, and with the construction boom going on, the city cluster will also be big and dense. The new nine elms cluster going up is another that will be a top european cluster on its own.
There are other clusters going up in other parts of london, including some big ones, but the quality is mostly not as good. Lesser known clusters like Stratford, Croydon, greenwich etc, are building more, on their own, than most European cities. The aldgate/city road towers that are going up now around the city cluster, will make it more like a proper skyline and not just the typical european 'cluster' this I think will look amazing. There are a few projects around the shard but not enough to make it a cluster, but i suppose that would just be greedy, and another supertall, in the city, on the cards.


ISTANBUL

Istanbul, like moscow and london, is a huge city with a big building boom going on and clusters all over. This is good in the way that it shows the energy and economic success of the place, but it also doesn't help density. If things continue as they are it won't matter, because individual clusters in istanbul will be as big as the top ones in europe, which will put it in another league alongside moscow and london at the top of europe.
The quality of the towers is not always great, but there are some fantastic ones that would be appreciated in any european city. Good height too.


PARIS

Paris is a strange one, it has built all its towers in one place which has given good density but it's not as impressive as it should be. If london or istanbul put all there towers in one place, like la defense, they would be much bigger, . However it is definitely one of Europe's best, but the height is unimpressive and the quality design and cladding etc is below that of frankfurt/london/moscow. Construction is slow, not many towers going up but this could of course change in the future.

WARSAW

Warsaw has been building on a continous line for years now, I keep thinking when will it slow down but it just keeps on going, this might be a long term trend now and if it is Warsaw will inevitably pass other cities and have a great dense skyline. The height is not spectacular but the density keeps getting better.


ROTTERDAM

Rotterdam has also been building towers on a continuous line for many years, it's not been quite as fast as Warsaw in the last 3/4 years but it has still added several new towers and has some under construction now, De rotterdam is basically 3 towers on its own. The height is not spectacular but it has good modern designs and a dense core, all the foundation of a great skyline has been built, it will only take a few taller towers to make it a top skyline.


MILAN

Milan is another one that has been going on a bit of a building boom, it has built an entire skyline from nothing in just a few years, very impressive. The quality of Milan towers is among the best in europe and the height is good too, it just lacks density but that will change if it continues building like it has been. A second cluster is also under construction so it's one to watch out for.


THE HAGUE

There isn't much going on in the Hague right now but I just love it's skyline, european classic, not the biggest but one of the best, the Dutch really do know how to build attractive skylines.
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Old September 9th, 2015, 12:36 AM   #7178
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Old September 9th, 2015, 01:44 AM   #7179
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Tour Incity is now complete (major construction work ended, full antenna installed, crane removed). Here are a few pictures taken in the past month.



A view taken on August 28 by ShaneAndRobbie on Flickr:





For comparison, this is the render we had before construction (red caption mine). So, looks resembling?



Here compared to downtown Cincinnati, for an idea of size:



Taken at sunrise with the barrier of the Alps in the distant background (I believe the tallest mountain visible is the Mont-Blanc, 15,780 ft), by WornCherry Rock on Flickr:







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Old September 9th, 2015, 02:46 AM   #7180
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The problem with La Défense is that its too dense. Moscow just looks unnatural. London's is good because the quality of each tower is good and they aren't dense at all. La défense will be good in the coming years. Probably the best.
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