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Old October 12th, 2015, 07:47 PM   #7541
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I wouldn't put essen or Berlin in top 20 personally, they don't seem to have skylines. Liverpool and Birmingham are better
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Old October 12th, 2015, 07:50 PM   #7542
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EUROPEAN TOP TEN

1. MOSCOW

2. LONDON

3. FRANKFURT

4. ISTANBUL

5. PARIS

6. ROTTERDAM

7. WARSAW

8. MILAN

9. Kiev

10. THE HAGUE
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Old October 12th, 2015, 08:02 PM   #7543
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I wouldn't put essen or Berlin in top 20 personally, they don't seem to have skylines. Liverpool and Birmingham are better

I believe not, that the high-rise buildings in Birmingham are so close together like in Essen.


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Old October 12th, 2015, 09:19 PM   #7544
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I believe not, that the high-rise buildings in Birmingham are so close together like in Essen.

Liverpool is better than that, Leeds is also denser
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Old October 12th, 2015, 09:58 PM   #7545
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Moscow/london/istanbul are the booming cities in europe, clearly.


1. MOSCOW
Moscow has the best height and some good designs but looks smaller than it is because the towers are so close together.


2. LONDON
London is the second tallest city in europe and is absolutely booming. The city of london has the best quality towers in europe.
Just one of londons clusters, canary wharf, will soon be bigger than all of the other skylines in the eu.
The city cluster, on its own, will be better than the entire skylines of most other European cities.
The nine elms cluster and the greenwich cluster and the Stratford cluster do the same.
Other new clusters going up all over london will make it unique in europe along with Istanbul.


3. FRANKFURT
Frankfurt is the third tallest skyline in europe and has some good quality towers. But it lacks density and has been slow in developmemt for a while. Things have picked up recently and there are a few new projects happening so one to look out for.

4. ISTANBUL
Istanbul is the fourth tallest skyline in europe and is booming more than any other city.
It is a huge city and has several clusters which gives it a real big city feel. There are some great towers there and some not so great, like every city. Its in the top league with london and Moscow.


5. PARIS
Paris lacks height and has many poor quality towers which blight the district. It had some good projects but unfortunately none of them were built. La defence only has one skyscraper 200m+ which makes it not credible to compete with the top skylines right now.
Unfortunately paris has also been slow at developing with very few tower projects going on. All this might change in the future tho and that would improve paris ranking. Paris must build some towers with good height and that are good quality, as there are no iconic or famous towers in paris which also harms it's ranking.


6. ROTTERDAM
Rotterdam has a dense skyline with good number of towers. They are not the tallest in europe but they have soon cool designs and are good quality.
Rotterdam has steadily been building towers, almost continually, for years which ensures that it's always improving and never standing still.


7. WARSAW
Warsaw is probably the most booming city after the big three (london/moscow/istanbul ).
Warsaw has ok height and the density is getting good now. The quality of the towers is not always great but they have some good towers and some nice projects for the coming years. An improving skyline and rising up the rankings.


8. MILAN
Milan has been growing very fast and has some of the best quality towers in europe.
Milan has good height and like london has more than one cluster. It seems to actually build all of its proposals which is very rare in europe and means that if it continues it will soon have a very impressive skyline. Another one to watch out for.


9. KIEV
Kiev has more 100m+ towers than many European cities. It's towers aren't all great quality but it does have some attractive ones. Kiev is always building but never seems to get mentioned on this forum. It is a very dense and urban city, has good potential.


10. THE HAGUE
The Hague is a beautiful skyline, one of Europe's best looking cities. The height is not the best but the towers are great quality and together makes a great ensemble. Development is slow but it's still easily in the top ten.
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Old October 12th, 2015, 11:28 PM   #7546
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Old October 13th, 2015, 01:00 AM   #7547
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Old October 13th, 2015, 03:02 AM   #7548
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why Moscow shouldn't be included?
it's fully european city, not for example as Istanbul that is european only for half, and not as Ankara that is not european at all, but in this forum it is included
That non-European Anatolia is the birth place of the Europa, the moon goddess. The author of the first known European literature, Homerus, is from Izmir, which is also an Asian city based on your illogical logic. I could give a lot more examples but this is not the place. Please educate yourself. When you look at this matter as an objective human being, you will realize that Europe, technically is not even a continent but a cultural identity and the founders of that identity is from today's Greece and "asian" Turkey(it was one country back then.) Today, there are more ancient Roman and Greek structures in Turkey than Italy and Greece combined. You cannot shape history based on your ego. I know none of this really matters to you because you have the "turks are barbaric asians" mind set. Not that anything is wrong with being Asian. I am just not one. Do you really think that the Byzantine Empire was an Asian civilization? If it wasn't Asian, how can Turkey be Asian? Both have lived and still living on the same land mass. Here comes the boom. You don't classify Turkey as Asian based on geography. We all know that. BTW I am an atheist coming from a Greek Orthodox family in Turkey so I am not even an "asian" Muslim. Keep it real.

I am sorry for the off topic. I am just sick of this whole thing.

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Old October 13th, 2015, 03:42 AM   #7549
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Istanbul has been a european civilisation city for over 2000 years. It was the cradle of western culture for nearly all of it's history. Today turkey is a majority Muslim country, but it is secular and modern and is the only country in the world which has the potential to bridge the gap between western culture and Islamic culture. That would benefit the world enormously.
Istanbul certainly is a european city.
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Old October 13th, 2015, 07:26 AM   #7550
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My current TOP TEN


1. London ... biggest city with the most diverse quality, and harmonious skyline ...


2. Moscow... 2nd biggest city and it's got that "WOW" factor ...

3. Istanbul.... Third biggest city and it's just there.. ..

4. Rotterdam . . A village compared with the top three but it's been rebuilt since the war.

5. Warsaw.. Improving all the time. A village tho compared with the top three.

6. Paris. .. A museum. .. Solid pristine blocks .. easy on the eye.. almost chemical.

7. Milan. .. pretty amazing how this city has pumped up it's skyline recently.

8. Frankfurt... a picture postcard from the 1980s...... the world is passing this impressive german city by...


9. Birmingham.... So underated. Massive city totally ignored on these pages..

10. Vienna.... very under rated. Historic city with a potent skyline
You are a very funny guy! Don't you think, you rated Frankfurt und Paris much too high? XD
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If you take into account only the cluster of skyscrapers that Warsaw should be in front of Rotterdam. As Moscow is the first.
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I believe not, that the high-rise buildings in Birmingham are so close together like in Essen.

Birmingham is actually quite dense.









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Old October 13th, 2015, 02:24 PM   #7553
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Wow, that third image is really looking beautiful on Birmingham!

And as a side note for DCFC1, I don't think time has passed Frankfurt that much. It's quite a modern and well-kicking city. And it actually started to build again. Imagine what the German economy engine can build in comparison to what they build in e.g. Istanbul if they just want.
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Old October 13th, 2015, 09:36 PM   #7555
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Old October 13th, 2015, 10:46 PM   #7556
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Old October 14th, 2015, 12:26 AM   #7557
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Old October 14th, 2015, 07:05 AM   #7559
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There are 20 towers in the moscow cluster, if you include under construction, and they are mostly supertalls and skyscrapers.
If they were spread out a bit more, and on a line like, say, frankfurt, people would see how big it is.
Moscow's cluster only looks smaller because the towers are so close together, and because half of the towers are usually not visible as they are hidden behind the other half of the cluster.

Spaced out, moscow has a big skyline
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