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Old March 12th, 2016, 09:48 PM   #8641
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Old March 12th, 2016, 10:57 PM   #8642
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Old March 13th, 2016, 12:25 AM   #8643
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1. Moscow - nothing in Europe comes close in terms of height and density. It's pretty small though and doesn't make up for a proper skyline but in Europe nothing really competes with MIBC anyway.
2. London - decent height, the only supertall outside of Russia, great and diverse designs, lacks coherency and density though. Probably after all these projects will be finished and it will become a proper, consistent skyline it will be #1 in Europe.
3. Frankfurt - classic European skyline, great composition, absolutely iconic - but only from one angle. In overall lacks density and kind of height aswell. Still top European skyline but not for long if there won't be any new projects.
3. Paris - definitely larger and more densely packed than Frankfurt but also pretty low and it doesn't make up for such iconic view IMO. But I understand people who would pick it over Frankfurt though.
5. Istanbul - really large as for Europe ... and that's all. Poor quality, poor density, no really recognizeable landmark towers, messy composition.
5. Warsaw - decent cluster, recognizeable due to the dominant Soviet skyscraper, some really good looking skyscrapers(but also some really generic and poor). If it had a supertall it would be easily top 3.
7. Milan - Some really top tier designs, but in overall relatively small and certainly not outstanding skyline. Also I really don't like the design of the new tallest's.
8. Rotterdam - I don't understand people who put Rotterdam anywhere high. Yes, it does have a skyline. But it has a terrible arrangement and density, designs aren't quite great, and it's relatively short aswell - only 3 proper skyscrapers(over 150m) compared to Warsaw's 11.
9. Madrid - it's really difficult to put this city anywhere actually. It has 4 decent towers with really nice height so you definitely can't ignore it but these towers for now stay pretty much lonely, with no highrise background. And the second, older cluster is too far away and is too short and unremarkable to make any difference.
10. Benidorm - another Spanish city, great density(looks like kind of HK of Europe) but really, really poor quality in overall and definitely too short.

IMO these are the only relevant skylines in Europe.
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Old March 13th, 2016, 12:18 PM   #8644
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Frankfurt has 3 skyscraper over 150m and two highrise buildings over 100m under construction.
Look in the German section---> http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=820

Furthermore are a dozen currently proposed. Source


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Istanbul
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Old March 13th, 2016, 01:30 PM   #8645
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8. Rotterdam - I don't understand people who put Rotterdam anywhere high. Yes, it does have a skyline. But it has a terrible arrangement and density, designs aren't quite great, and it's relatively short aswell - only 3 proper skyscrapers(over 150m) compared to Warsaw's 11.
Rotterdam got 4 towers above 150 and Warsaw 6. (roof height)
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Old March 13th, 2016, 01:49 PM   #8646
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Rotterdam got 4 towers above 150
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No, it's 11 over 150m. Palace of Culture and Science , Warsaw Spire, Warsaw Trade Tower, Złota 44, Rondo 1, Hotel Marriott, Warsaw Financial Center, Intercontinental Warsaw, Cosmopolitan Twarda 2/4, Oxford Tower, Q22. (architectural height)
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Old March 13th, 2016, 05:29 PM   #8649
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Old March 13th, 2016, 07:58 PM   #8651
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No, it's 11 over 150m. Palace of Culture and Science , Warsaw Spire, Warsaw Trade Tower, Złota 44, Rondo 1, Hotel Marriott, Warsaw Financial Center, Intercontinental Warsaw, Cosmopolitan Twarda 2/4, Oxford Tower, Q22. (architectural height)
Maastoren 165
New Orleans 158
Delftse Poort 151
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Old March 14th, 2016, 01:47 AM   #8655
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Maastoren 165
New Orleans 158
Delftse Poort 151
De Rotterdam 150
But De Rotterdam is 149m tall. I know it's a very small, practically meaningless difference yet still technically speaking it isn't a fully-fledged skyscraper.
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Old March 14th, 2016, 07:00 PM   #8657
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But De Rotterdam is 149m tall. I know it's a very small, practically meaningless difference yet still technically speaking it isn't a fully-fledged skyscraper.
Oxford Tower, Warsaw Financial Center and Hotel Marriot are with their antennas also no fully-fledged skyscraper.

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