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Old October 6th, 2016, 12:42 PM   #9881
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Old October 6th, 2016, 07:24 PM   #9882
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Old October 6th, 2016, 08:22 PM   #9883
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Old October 6th, 2016, 08:24 PM   #9884
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A few years ago.

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Old October 7th, 2016, 02:20 AM   #9885
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Moscow City is to Dense, just to dense to see all Scyscrapers from any angle.
It looks so massive, but seems to be small cluster where in reality it is not small. There is quite much towers.
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Old October 7th, 2016, 09:24 PM   #9887
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London must have the most development currently ongoing/ in the pipeline in Europe? It also has that history and sense of romantic intrigue architecturally
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Old October 7th, 2016, 10:00 PM   #9888
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London must have the most development currently ongoing/ in the pipeline in Europe? It also has that history and sense of romantic intrigue architecturally
Currently the most expensive and the most important project in Europe is in Belgrade. They are building an entire business neighborhood with luxury apartments, shopping centers and several modern skyscrapers.
More info here https://www.belgradewaterfront.com/en/
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Old October 8th, 2016, 06:10 PM   #9889
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Currently the most expensive and the most important project in Europe is in Belgrade. They are building an entire business neighborhood with luxury apartments, shopping centers and several modern skyscrapers.

More info here https://www.belgradewaterfront.com/en/

How many billion dollars does that thing cost?
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Old October 8th, 2016, 06:44 PM   #9890
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Currently the most expensive and the most important project in Europe is in Belgrade. They are building an entire business neighborhood with luxury apartments, shopping centers and several modern skyscrapers.
More info here https://www.belgradewaterfront.com/en/
That is neither the most expensive nor the most important project in Europe. (@Frankfurtgermany costs are estimated to be 3.5 billion €.)
There are several bigger, more expensive and arguably more important projects. For example Hamburg's Hafencity...







...which is not just a new neighbourhood but as the name says a whole new city. The costs are estimated to be 11 billion €. And I am sure there are couple more projects like this in Europe.

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Old October 8th, 2016, 06:44 PM   #9891
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How many billion dollars does that thing cost?
More than 3 billion dollars

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That is neither the most expensive nor the most important project in Europe. (@Frankfurtgermany costs are estimated to be 3.5 billion €.)
There are several bigger, more expensive and arguably more important projects. For example Hamburg's Hafencity...



...which is not just a new neighbourhood but as the name says a whole new city. The costs are estimated to be 8,5-10 billion € .

The works have already begun in Belgrade, at the moment in Europe is the most expensive project.
Without a doubt there are more ambitious projects but at present I think the Serbian capital is in first place.
And they are planning the subway.

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Old October 8th, 2016, 07:24 PM   #9892
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More than 3 billion dollars.
The works have already begun in Belgrade, at the moment in Europe is the most expensive project.
Without a doubt there are more ambitious projects but at present I think the Serbian capital is in first place.
And they are planning the subway.
Hafencity is under construction too. Here is it's thread:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...222923&page=39

It is going to cost about 11 billion €. So it is much more expensive, much bigger and as you said more ambitious. So how is Belgrade still "in first place" in Europe?

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They are building an entire business neighborhood with luxury apartments, shopping centers and several modern skyscrapers.
More info here https://www.belgradewaterfront.com/en/
There is also just one real highrise planned and it does not count as a skyscraper because it is going to be just 160m tall. There are way taller, more expensive and much more towers rising in Europe right now. Just look over to London and Moscow. Not to offend Belgrade, it sure is a great city, but it is not really playing in a league of some of the bigger and economically more powerful European capitals.
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Old October 8th, 2016, 07:35 PM   #9893
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Hafencity is under construction too. Here is it's thread:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...222923&page=39

It is going to cost about 11 billion €. So it is much more expensive, much bigger and as you said more ambitious. So how is Belgrade still number one in Europe?

11 billion is a innarivabile money capital for Belgrade at this moment but I find the project along the Sava more beautiful. If the Serbian government will continue on this path Belgrade is goint to be a world metropolis like Milan or Berlin. However I didn't know anything about this project in Germany.

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Hafencity is under construction too. Here is it's thread:
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It is going to cost about 11 billion €. So it is much more expensive, much bigger and as you said more ambitious. So how is Belgrade still "in first place" in Europe?



There is also just one real highrise planned and it does not count as a skyscraper because it is going to be just 160m tall. There are way taller and more expensive towers rising in Europe right now. Just look over to London and Moscow. Not to offend Belgrade, it sure is a great city, but it is not really playing in a league of some of the bigger and economically more powerful European capitals.

The initial height of the tower had to be 200 meters but they changed it...
There are many other projects such as Airport City.

And currently on hold there is Belgrade Aqua Park in New Belgrade, the facility will be among the largest in Europe.
This is a capital that has grown a lot over the years, it can compete with the largest city in Europe.
Without a doubt it is the reference point in South Eastern Europe with Istanbul. Moscow,London,Madrid...have more funds but Belgrade is an important reality and it is showing.
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Old October 8th, 2016, 08:07 PM   #9894
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Old October 8th, 2016, 10:34 PM   #9895
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Currently the most expensive and the most important project in Europe is in Belgrade. They are building an entire business neighborhood with luxury apartments, shopping centers and several modern skyscrapers.
More info here https://www.belgradewaterfront.com/en/
As Tiaren has already mentioned, I believe there are more expensive redevelopment/construction projects across Europe.

For example London has -

Nine Elms £15bn regeneration

Greenwich Peninsula £8.4bn regeneration

Earls Court £8bn Regeneration

Wood Wharf: £2bn expansion of Canary Wharf

Regardless, the Belgrade Waterfront project looks really interesting.
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Old October 8th, 2016, 10:51 PM   #9896
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As Tiaren has already mentioned, I believe there are more expensive redevelopment/construction projects across Europe.

For example London has -

Nine Elms £15bn regeneration

Greenwich Peninsula £8.4bn regeneration

Earls Court £8bn Regeneration

Wood Wharf: £2bn expansion of Canary Wharf

Regardless, the Belgrade Waterfront project looks really interesting.
Belgrade project is probably just about size of Barking Riverside but much smaller than Greenwich Peninsula and way smaller than Nine Elms.
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Old October 9th, 2016, 12:51 AM   #9897
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Old October 9th, 2016, 03:56 AM   #9898
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Old October 9th, 2016, 07:16 PM   #9899
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I think I was being a bit harsh on Rotterdam saying it lacks diversity. Some of the pics of it above are really cool...It looks so American in some.. must be the most American looking city in Europe along with Frankfurt?

Some fantastic pics of Istanbul (very under rated on here ) and Vienna too. Istanbul looks huge.. really spread out with multiple clusters..Vienna has a scraper I don't recall seeing before.. makes the skyline better than I imagined. Also good to see cities like Belgrade and Amsterdam getting a look in..
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Old October 9th, 2016, 08:40 PM   #9900
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Amsterdam itself really doesn't look american, but I agree that the outskirts (of pretty much all bigger dutch cities) do, at least from above. Architecturally it's not all that similar but the Netherlands also have those huge freeways and big planned suburbs.
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