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Old October 27th, 2016, 10:14 PM   #10001
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Old October 27th, 2016, 10:21 PM   #10002
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I was thinking "could any city be uglier than Ankara?". The answer is yes. Moscow.
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Old October 27th, 2016, 10:23 PM   #10003
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Old October 28th, 2016, 01:09 AM   #10004
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I'm sorry but the ugliness of Moscow is incomparable. Are you proud to show us those pics?
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Old October 28th, 2016, 02:05 AM   #10005
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I was thinking "could any city be uglier than Ankara?". The answer is yes. Moscow.
And you will think like that until you visit Moscow. Then you will think: "Is there a more beautiful city than Moscow?"
Almost every street that you see on these horrible pictures is actually quite pretty (except suburbs)


This street is somewhere in picture below.

But you will not see it, because of all the beautiful streets in the pictures hidden on top of the ugly high-rise buildings.
But if you want, I was not trying to offend your opinion. Sorry Google translate/
PS Cool street and ugly black....
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Old October 28th, 2016, 04:20 AM   #10006
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Old Moscow seem pretty mediocre to be honest, you can tell the city became provincial after the capital was moved to Saint Petersbourg and even before that it wasn't really on par with other European capitals. If you cut the "ugly high rise buildings" it seem smaller than a city in Eastern Poland like Lublin.
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Old October 28th, 2016, 06:27 AM   #10007
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And you will think like that until you visit Moscow. Then you will think: "Is there a more beautiful city than Moscow?"
I have been to Moscow. It was the ugliest city I have ever been to ao far. You need to learn how to criticize your country just as I am criticizing Ankara. You can't get better without pointing out your weak spots.
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Old October 28th, 2016, 07:58 AM   #10008
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I was thinking "could any city be uglier than Ankara?". The answer is yes. Moscow.
I was thinking the same thing !


Moscow has it's cluster ..


But jeeez .. move away from that and it's a sea of grey darkness
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Old October 28th, 2016, 08:05 AM   #10009
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Skylines I like just now are


Vienna

Istanbul

Warsaw


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Old October 28th, 2016, 09:58 AM   #10010
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My personal TOP.

1. Frankfurt (in future still no. 1),
2. London (strong no. 2 now and in future),
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3. Rotterdam (may switch places with Paris and Warsaw in future),
4. Paris (as above),
5. Warsaw (as above),
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6. Moscow(amazing hight but missing something),
7. Milan (contender for Moscow in future),
8. Istanbul (same as above),
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Old October 28th, 2016, 10:03 AM   #10011
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Old Moscow seem pretty mediocre to be honest, you can tell the city became provincial after the capital was moved to Saint Petersbourg and even before that it wasn't really on par with other European capitals. If you cut the "ugly high rise buildings" it seem smaller than a city in Eastern Poland like Lublin.

Saint Petersburg is really beautiful!
https://youtu.be/4EoUz39nPMM
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Old October 28th, 2016, 12:23 PM   #10012
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Saint Petersburg is really beautiful!
https://youtu.be/4EoUz39nPMM
Definetely. Would love to go there someday.
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Old October 28th, 2016, 12:23 PM   #10013
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Old Moscow seem pretty mediocre to be honest, you can tell the city became provincial after the capital was moved to Saint Petersbourg and even before that it wasn't really on par with other European capitals. If you cut the "ugly high rise buildings" it seem smaller than a city in Eastern Poland like Lublin.

And as far as I know, it was still the 2nd largest city, as well as coronations were still held in Moscow during Russian empire

As you have your national prejudice, you just try to underestimate importance of Moscow in imperial times

During imperial times, Moscow was still considered as one of major world cities in some foreign books

Moscow had more suburban appeal than St.Petersburg, however, that's why Moscow is somehow cozy at the time

It still had some interesting buildings which are rather suitable for capitals and they don't look too provincionak like GUM, historical museum, Metropol Hotek, Bolshoi theatre, spectacular Pushkin Fine Arts Museum, Pashkov Pakace

Would you imagine such buildings in Lublin?

Someone may not like vastness of skyline, but in my opinion, that's what makes skyline interfering

Vastness of the city from above compensates ugliness of the architecture
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Old October 28th, 2016, 12:28 PM   #10014
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I have been to Moscow. It was the ugliest city I have ever been to ao far. You need to learn how to criticize your country just as I am criticizing Ankara. You can't get better without pointing out your weak spots.
The question is WHEN. Since 2013, pedestrian areas were made, so, Moscow's city centre getting better and cleaner, getting rid of trash advertisement, vastness of billboards

Your opinion is way too biased.
I agree with you in terms of honesty, but you just demonstrate your bias and true subjectiveness

In fact, I'm not a patriot or "vanique ", I am bloody "internationalist", but my internationalism and cosmopolitanism does not make me hate Moscow
I have been to many western European cities, and in fact, I wouldn't say the same thing as you said

Yeah, it's worse than many famous European capitals architecturally , but still, you should have turn to small pereuloks(side streets) at least


We all know that all cities more or less have their advantages and disadvantages, as well. I like the city centre and large Stalinist avenues here. Other districts are ugly, indeed.

Skyline is not really great except of PARTICULAR clusters

However, someone may even like Commiebloxks and soviet modernism

Ankara is the new capital, and it has no spectacular historical sites, while Moscow has historical heritage anyway
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Old October 28th, 2016, 01:49 PM   #10015
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I have been to Moscow. It was the ugliest city I have ever been to ao far. You need to learn how to criticize your country just as I am criticizing Ankara. You can't get better without pointing out your weak spots.
I know that in Russia there are ugly city, but not Moscow.
If you think that this is an ugly city, then you need to contact the center for treatment of Russophobia.


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1)You need to learn how to criticize your country just as you criticizing Moscow
2)You need to learn how to criticize Istanbul just as you criticizing Moscow
3)You need to learn how to criticize any big USA city just as you criticizing Moscow
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Old October 28th, 2016, 03:00 PM   #10016
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Crazy disscution.Every city has its own beauty
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Old October 28th, 2016, 05:44 PM   #10017
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Old October 29th, 2016, 02:13 AM   #10018
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If you think that this is an ugly city, then you need to contact the center for treatment of Russophobia.
Lol, because whole world wants to just bash Russia for no reason...

If many people tells you that there is something wrong you, just accept it and try to work on that. Being in the state of denial just adds to the list of things your country and poeple could change in themselves. For better.
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Old October 29th, 2016, 10:23 AM   #10019
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Nothing changed since 40 years. So flat for one of the top richest large european cities.
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