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Old February 26th, 2014, 09:32 PM   #161
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I don't even know what Liverpool looks like. Why don't you guys post pics of Liverpool here so we would all appreciate the beauty?

By the way, Galatasaray is going to beat the hell out of Chelsea tonight in Istanbul
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Old February 27th, 2014, 02:05 AM   #162
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I never post skyline photos of Liverpool in this thread, as this is for the best skylines in Europe...and Liverpool isn't quiet there yet.

But try this link...just click the arrow

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Old February 27th, 2014, 02:14 AM   #163
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I never post skyline photos of Liverpool in this thread, as this is for the best skylines in Europe...and Liverpool isn't quiet there yet.

But try this link...just click the arrow
That's right. Thanks for the link!
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Old February 27th, 2014, 02:14 AM   #164
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Old February 27th, 2014, 06:42 AM   #165
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Moscow IBC yesterday (view from the ground), by me:

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To feel the height - grey building in the mid has 25 floors (and is two times closer than IBC).
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Old February 27th, 2014, 10:12 AM   #166
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I don't think London will ever look like those cities mentioned, the imposed sight lines for St Pauls, Westminster and the Tower of London (which is a positive thing in my opinion) mean clusters are forming in a variety of places around the City and are actively being encouraged close to the many large transport hubs (Nine Elms, Stratford, London Bridge Quarter, Canary Wharf etc)
Agree. London skyscraper construction is constrained by its historical built form and sight lines. Most cities have these issues, but it's a bigger obstacle in London than most.

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It is personal taste of course, but personally i am delighted by the prospect of having multiple clusters with many mini skylines dotted around the city.

Together this will form an incredible panoramic that will be unique in world terms, unfortunately there are only 2 or 3 vantage points where you can see all of these clusters in one shot, until that is, they develop even wider panoramic lenses.
I prefer having lots of clusters too, but you should keep in mind that London is hardly the only city that has multiple clusters. London is not unique in that regard at all. I can think of 3 north American cities alone (New York, Toronto, Los Angeles) that have as many clusters as London + a massive one downtown.

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Exciting times for the original metropolis - 'the big smoke' as it was known as throughout the Victorian period, is finally going vertical!

About time in my book!
Interesting. Victorian Toronto was referred to as 'The Big Smoke' and still is today. Btw, isn't Rome the original metropolis? They got to 1 million inhabitants a good 1800 years before London. Come to think of it, there are lots of cities in Asia that were there a thousands years before London as well.

Just curious, do you prefer Canary Wharf or 'The City'?
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Old February 27th, 2014, 07:27 PM   #171
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Old February 27th, 2014, 11:49 PM   #173
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Agree. London skyscraper construction is constrained by its historical built form and sight lines. Most cities have these issues, but it's a bigger obstacle in London than most.



I prefer having lots of clusters too, but you should keep in mind that London is hardly the only city that has multiple clusters. London is not unique in that regard at all. I can think of 3 north American cities alone (New York, Toronto, Los Angeles) that have as many clusters as London + a massive one downtown.



Interesting. Victorian Toronto was referred to as 'The Big Smoke' and still is today. Btw, isn't Rome the original metropolis? They got to 1 million inhabitants a good 1800 years before London. Come to think of it, there are lots of cities in Asia that were there a thousands years before London as well.

Just curious, do you prefer Canary Wharf or 'The City'?
Im not sure I said that London will be the only city in the world with multiple clusters? Maybe you misunderstood. I meant that it has a very unique mixture of areas, styles and fabric that has evolved over centuries. These conditions, plus the staggering demand for property in London is effectively forcing the development of small clusters to be formed all over the city. I am well travelled and can't think of another city that is similar. I don't mean it is better or worse, simply - unique.

I don't think there too many comparisons with the cities you mentioned either, other than New York, Los Angeles and London are all megacities with vast sprawling metropolitan areas and huge populations (Paris and Istanbul too - seeing as though we are on the Euro thread and not North American).

Toronto is a much smaller city and provincial in comparison (no offence intended of course). It obviously has a very dense downtown but it dosnt have the same polycentric sprawl in the way megacities do.

Obviously there were many cities that reached 1million inhabitants before London, but in the modern era London was easily the largest and the first industrialised city on the planet, hence why it is often referred to as 'the original or first' and also why it was known as the 'big smoke'. Many cities copied this nickname or even adapted it, for example 'the big apple', which springs to mind.

I didn't know Toronto adopted the name too, not surprising really, Toronto was a British colony and dominated by the English WASPS, very much looking across the pond to the mother country.

When i went to Toronto my Canadian friends always referred to it as 'hog town'!

In answer to your question, I prefer the City to Canary Wharf, when you stand on the banks of the Thames, near the Tower of London you can see architectural styles going back hundreds of years, I love the mix of old and new, you can really appreciate the history of the city. You get the same feeling in some parts of Paris too, so I guess London and Paris although different in many ways are the closest thing to a comparison you can get. Ive never been to Moscow, but it must be similar, seeing the Kremlin, turning and then seeing MIBC rising in the distance.

Inspiring stuff!

Anyway, the point of my original post was that it is exciting times for skyscraper fans in London at the moment, we have been starved for so long and now there are 200 skyscrapers planned all over the city and clusters forming in many different parts of the city. Not everyone is happy with that, but you are on a skyscraper forum, so expect all Londoners to be full of glee at the moment.

There really is huge investment going on, staggering really and many in the rest of the UK feel hard done too, but London is so attractive to investors it is a no brainer, hence the huge numbers of developments, which outside of China is only possibly matched by New York.

PS Don't shoot the messenger! Be happy for London skyscraper fans! Londoners have waited long enough!

Isn't it great discussing rather than just posting the same skyline shots over and over.... I think we all know what Frankfurt looks like from the river or what La Defense looks like.

Can we have some more of these discussions please - great stuff!

The title of the thread is DISCUSS!

Good on you isaidso!
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Yes, I agree! But when I have to put up with posts like this below regarding London, it gets to be a bit much.

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@QuantumX : My last opinion deserved for some respect... especially from administrator. Your answer was needless. And yes! I suppouse - wait, no I know it - keep waiting and London skyline in 10-15 years will be better than 90% of american skylines. If you want to answer my opinion - do it without needless words. Thank you.
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o.k.lets discuss: London is the best city of the universe end of the discussion; now the brits are
for all the others: Moscow and Paris got the most impressive skylines
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This thread is beyond embarrassing. Every time you come here its filled with the same handful of trolls talking the same bs. Mods should either start cleaning it or close it altogether.
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o.k.lets discuss: London is the best city of the universe end of the discussion; now the brits are
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YOU CAN STOP IT RIGHT NOW!
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This thread is beyond embarrassing. Every time you come here its filled with the same handful of trolls talking the same bs. Mods should either start cleaning it or close it altogether.
El Greco you got an infraction by accident. I'll have Yellow Fever fix it. Mind you we just closed the damn thread and cleaned it up!
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I guess best thing would be to prohibit discussions and just stick to photos.
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I guess best thing would be to prohibit discussions and just stick to photos.
Let's give this a bit more time. Yellow Fever just recently asked if I wanted to help out here. Now I see why. We might need more help just so we can sleep and go to our real jobs.
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