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Old February 24th, 2014, 09:43 PM   #1
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Road tolls and parking fees around the world


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I would like to start this thread by showing tolls, here, in Switzerland:

1) Usually uses of motorways and expressways for cars and motorbikes needs a "vignette" (but not all, when it's displayed) which costs 40 CHF per year (valid from December, 1st to January, 31th).
2) Some Alpine tunnels are charged separate tolls, as per example, the Gd. St. Bernard tunnel, between CH and Italy (prices for cars):
-1 way: 30,90 CHF or 25,10 EUR
-Return: 49,40 CHF or 40,20 EUR
-10 passes: 124 CHF or 101 EUR.
3) We do not have yet "congestion charges" in cities.

Parking costs in the city of Lausanne, on the street (communal):

1) City centre: 3 CHF/hour, or 24 CHF/day.
2) Agglomeration:
-blue zone (free up to 1h30 or more, if indicated).
-2,50 CHF/hour, or 15 CHF/day.
-P+R: 11,50 to 16 CHF/day, including 1 PT day pass.
-You barely can find any "without limit" parking lot.
3) Permit for residents (cut by zones): 520 CHF/year.
4) Motorbikes have distinctive parking spaces, and are free and unlimited.

How high are the tolls and parking fees in your city/area/country?

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Old February 25th, 2014, 04:58 AM   #2
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There are no tolls in my region.

Private Parking $2,00-$5,00/ 1 hour

Malls/supermarket parking = free

Blue Zone R$ 1,50 ( $ 0.75 ) / 2h00 or 5h00

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Old February 25th, 2014, 08:44 AM   #3
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As of now, there are no road tolls in Finland.

However, there is a political debate. A workshop led by the minister of transport Merja Kyllönen (left alliance) is suggesting a GPS-based device installed on all cars and a kilometre-based toll charging system. Not only a toll charging system, this would enable the authorities to track all vehicles in real time.

Since this is not a political forum, I spare you of my thoughts about Ms Kyllönen here.
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Old February 25th, 2014, 10:17 AM   #4
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Italian Autostrade (with few exceptions) are tolled.

Parking fees and policies vary among different cities. In Bologna resident permits (in your own zone) are free, here in Turin they cost 200€/yr. I am no legal resident in Turin, but in the zone were I live parking is free. The same applies to Brescia (150€/yr).
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Old February 25th, 2014, 03:04 PM   #5
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Motorways in the Netherlands are currently untolled. Dutch motorists are very highly taxed, with tax revenues exceeding expenditures by a factor of 5. Economically, there is absolutely no reason to toll any road in the Netherlands.

However, taxation on motoring is seen as a general tax and not a user fee or special purpose tax. That means it is still possible to have toll roads, and there will be tolled motorways in the future, but only on a few links. Tolling existing capacity is not allowed by law.

Parking fees vary by city and proximity to the urban core. In the city of Zwolle it ranges from € 0.80 per hour/€ 4 day on the edge of the urban core to € 3 per hour/€ 16.50 per day in the historic city center. In Amsterdam, it can be as high as € 5.70 per hour or € 52 per day.
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Old February 25th, 2014, 03:44 PM   #6
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In Rotterdam there are 3 prices for parking:

€3.33 ph ( city center) , €2.50 ph ( just outside center) or €1.67 ph ( suburban neighborhoods like Kralingen, or around the Alexandrium shopping mall).
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Old February 25th, 2014, 08:24 PM   #7
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The following sections of motorways in Poland are tolled for vehicles <3,5 tonnes:

(Blue - state, black - private)
All remaining motorways are toll free.

Toll is collected manually on toll gates.

State controlled motorways have a closed tolling system.
The toll (for vehicles <3,5 tonnes) on state controlled motorways is 0,1 PLN/km (~ 0,25€/10km):

- A4 Wrocław - Gliwice, 162 km: 16,2 PLN (~4€)
- A2 Konin - Stryków, 99 km: 9,9 PLN (~2,5€)

Private controlled motorways:
- A1 Gdańsk - Toruń, 152km: closed tolling system, 0,2 PLN/km; 29,9 PLN (~7€) for the entire section

- A4 Mysłowice - Kraków, 52 km: open tolling system, two toll gates, 9 PLN (~2€) on each gate.

- A2 Poznań (Kleszczewo) - Golina, 64 km: open tolling system, two toll gates, 15 PLN (~3,5€) on each gate.

- A2 Rzepin - Poznań (Dopiewo), 134 km: closed tolling system, 33 PLN (~8€) for entire section.
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Old February 25th, 2014, 09:01 PM   #8
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San Francisco Bay Area (California)

Parking Meters
* San Francisco - $3.50 to $6.00/hour depending on location
* San Jose - $1.00/hour although there is plan to increase that to $2.00/hr

Toll Bridges
Golden Gate Bridge District (Private):
* Golden Gate Bridge - $6 (Pay by Plate/Mail), $5 (FasTrak - ETC) Southbound ONLY

Bay Area Toll Authority (State-owned):
* Benicia Bridge - $5 Northbound ONLY
* Carquinez Bridge - $5 Northbound ONLY
* Antioch Bridge - $5 Northbound ONLY
* Dumbarton Bridge - $5 Westbound ONLY
* San Mateo-Hayward Bridge - $5 Westbound ONLY
* Richmond-San Rafael Bridge - $5 Westbound ONLY
* Bay Bridge - $6 (5a-10a, 3p-7p M-F), $4 (10a-3p, 7p-5a M-F), $5 weekends Westbound ONLY

Note: Tolls for BATA bridges are same whether paying by FasTrak or cash. HOVs pay a reduced rate of $2.50 when crossing during commute hours (typically 5-10am and 3-7pm Mon-Fri). HOVs *must* have FasTrak.

Toll Roads
The only toll roads in the S.F. Bay Area are Express Lanes which are HOV lanes that have been modified so solo drivers can use the lane for a fee(a.k.a. HOT lanes). Tolls for these lanes are variable and depend on traffic conditions. I've seen tolls as low as $0.30 and as high as $6.00
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Old February 25th, 2014, 09:48 PM   #9
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Slovakia

Most of the expressways and motorways in Slovakia are charged, except for some short semiprofile sections of expressways which you do not have to pay for. You need to buy a vignette (10 days - €10, 30days - €14 or 1year for €50) for your car or motorbike if you want to use D(Dialnice-motorways) or R(rychlostne cesty-expressway) roads.
CHARGED SECTIONS OF D & R roads:
D1 Bratislava Vajnory - Hričovské Podhradie 173 km
Ivachnová - Jánovce, 84 km
Jablonov - Fričovce, 22 km
Svinia - Prešov západ, 8 km
Prešov - Budimír, 20 km
D2 Brodské (SK/CZ) - Bratislava Lamač, 55 km
Jarovce (križovatka D2 a D4) - Čunovo (SK/HU), 9 km
D3 Hričovské Podhradie (križovatka D3 a D1) - Žilina Strážov, 9 km
D4 Jarovce (SK/A) - Jarovce (križovatka D2 a D4), 2 km
R1 Trnava - Banská Bystrica, 158 km
Nitra západ - Nitra Kynek, 2 km
R2 Budča (križovatka R1 a R2) - Zvolen, 3 km
R4 Košice - Milhosť (SK/HU), 14 km
R6 Beluša (križovatka D1 a R6) - Púchov, 1 km
There are a lot places where you can get a vignette (gas stations, post offices,...). For vehicle with total weight over 3.5 tons is necessary to have an on-board unit. For this category, the majority of first-class roads are charged, as well. The tarif rate depends on emission category and total weight and it varies between €0,08 and €0,23 per km.

Parking fees depend on your location in Slovakia. In Bratislava about €1-3 per hour or €6-30 per day. In my town with population aprx. 50 000 people, it is €0,30 for the first hour, €0,70 for the other ones (€2,70 for day). These parking fees are charged only in working days of week between 7:00 - 16:00.

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San Francisco Bay Area (California)

Parking Meters
* San Francisco - $3.50 to $6.00/hour depending on location
* San Jose - $1.00/hour although there is plan to increase that to $2.00/hr

Toll Bridges
Golden Gate Bridge District (Private):
* Golden Gate Bridge - $6 (Pay by Plate/Mail), $5 (FasTrak - ETC) Southbound ONLY

Bay Area Toll Authority (State-owned):
* Benicia Bridge - $5 Northbound ONLY
* Carquinez Bridge - $5 Northbound ONLY
* Antioch Bridge - $5 Northbound ONLY
* Dumbarton Bridge - $5 Westbound ONLY
* San Mateo-Hayward Bridge - $5 Westbound ONLY
* Richmond-San Rafael Bridge - $5 Westbound ONLY
* Bay Bridge - $6 (5a-10a, 3p-7p M-F), $4 (10a-3p, 7p-5a M-F), $5 weekends Westbound ONLY

Note: Tolls for BATA bridges are same whether paying by FasTrak or cash. HOVs pay a reduced rate of $2.50 when crossing during commute hours (typically 5-10am and 3-7pm Mon-Fri). HOVs *must* have FasTrak.

Toll Roads
The only toll roads in the S.F. Bay Area are Express Lanes which are HOV lanes that have been modified so solo drivers can use the lane for a fee(a.k.a. HOT lanes). Tolls for these lanes are variable and depend on traffic conditions. I've seen tolls as low as $0.30 and as high as $6.00
We noticed this during our first vacation in America.

I asked my papa: "If America is a country that advocates automobile usage, then why on earth am I seeing expensive parking rates? (for North California, that is)"

Then when you go into Nevada, it's mostly "FREE PARKING"
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all motorways are tolled, approximately 0,06€/km for cars. only some short sections (the longest is Zagreb bypass) are free of tolls. also, some shorter sections have open tolling systems with only one barrier, around which you can find short free sections.
using electronic tolling device ENC brings 21,74% discount. unfortunately, ENC is not usable at A2, and for using it at A8 and A9 id must be decoded and amount values only for 2 months.

except motorways, there are two road objects that are tolled: Krk bridge (4,60€) and tunnel Sveti Ilija (2,60€). Krk bridge is tolled only in one direction.

generally there are no congestion zones, but there are some areas where cars pay charges to enter (example area around lake Jarun in Zagreb, or I remember paying entranc to center of Sinj).

parking is charged almost everywhere in city centres. prices are variable, depend of city itself and zone. the cheapest are 0,25€/h, the most expensive 2€/h, averagely 0,70€/h. parking in garages is similar, but there might be high charges ar seaside cities during the summer season, up to 3€/h.
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We noticed this during our first vacation in America.

I asked my papa: "If America is a country that advocates automobile usage, then why on earth am I seeing expensive parking rates? (for North California, that is)"

Then when you go into Nevada, it's mostly "FREE PARKING"
Simple supply and demand: way more people want to park in downtown areas than there's room for, so (1) private businesses can open a parking garage and find people willing to pay to use them and (2) governments can use them as a source of revenue. (And it's a federal state with a lot of autonomy even within states for local governments..."a country that advocates automobile usage" doesn't necessarily mean that every mayor or city council feels that way....)
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It's also common to keep supply of parking artificially low to justify high parking fees. It's not uncommon for downtown areas to build large office towers with parking space for only a few percent of their employees. Of course you cannot provide parking for everybody, but there's need to provide a reasonable amount of parking so not only the elite can park and the average John is sanctioned to long unfavorable commutes with public transit.
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It's also common to keep supply of parking artificially low to justify high parking fees.
You name it ....

Excess of 120 surface parking lots in Zurich

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Ende 2012 gab es in der Zürcher Innenstadt 76 Parkplätze zu viel. Anders ausgedrückt: Den Autofahrern standen 7698 öffentliche Plätze zur Verfügung. Doch gemäss dem sogenannten historischen Kompromiss dürften es nur 7622 sein. So viele waren es 1990. Die Politik beschloss damals, die Zahl einzufrieren. Wenn Parkhäuser dazukamen, mussten oberirdische Parkplätze abgebaut werden.
I.e., the maximum allowed number of surface parking lots in Zurich is limited by a 1990 law to 7622 places. If new car parks (open to public) are erected, the number of surface places equal to the parking lots therein has to be eliminated. This can be done e.g. by converting them to unloading spots for delivery vehicles, or to bike paths.

The law (of course) does not consider the price of parking in privately-owned car parks: the article mentions the car park "Opéra" that did not succeed to find one single tenant for the 50 lots they indended to let. The asked amount of rent at 1250 francs per month may be the main reason ...



An important number of city-administered surface parking lots in Zurich are free on Sundays. Leftistgreenie anti-car ideologists push for a 24/7 charge applied to all parking lots without exception. As they say, "free parking is an incentive for people to prefer cars over public transport".

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Does a government not have the right (even the responsibility) to make policy choices like that? Which doesn't mean you or I have to agree.
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Excess of 120 surface parking lots in Zurich



I.e., the maximum allowed number of surface parking lots in Zurich is limited by a 1990 law to 7622 places. If new car parks (open to public) are erected, the number of surface places equal to the parking lots therein has to be eliminated. This can be done e.g. by converting them to unloading spots for delivery vehicles, or to bike paths.

The law (of course) does not consider the price of parking in privately-owned car parks: the article mentions the car park "Opéra" that did not succeed to find one single tenant for the 50 lots they indended to let. The asked amount of rent at 1250 francs per month may be the main reason ...



An important number of city-administered surface parking lots in Zurich are free on Sundays. Leftistgreenie anti-car ideologists push for a 24/7 charge applied to all parking lots without exception. As they say, "free parking is an incentive for people to prefer cars over public transport".

It's absolutely crazy, in every city in the world they struggle to create more parking spaces and in Switzerland they even put a ceiling to their number.
Switzerland is probably the more anti-car country in the world, with laws forbidding to increase capacity on translapine roads and entire Alpine towns closed to cars.
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Hmm, in Indonesia all expressways are considered as Toll roads with various tariffs

In toll roads with closed toll system, the range is about Rp600 (roughly 0.045EUR) to Rp1500 (0.1EUR) per kilometre

And in open toll system like Jakarta Inner Ring Road and Jakarta Outer Ring Road the fare is Rp8000 and Rp9500 (about 0.5EUR) respectively.

For parking fees, here in Indonesia off-street parking are usually operated by private companies with fees ranging from Rp2000 to Rp3000 per hour. On-street parking is usually conducted with "Department of Transportation Parking Attendant". Usually they will charge you Rp2000 regardless with your parking length is.

But recently in Jakarta, the official minimal fee per hour was set to be Rp4000/hour last year, and there are plans for operate on-street electronic parking system, but there's no progress yet. Instead Bandung has already operate the system since last year:

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There are no toll roads in Estonia currently or planned.

Parking is extremely expensive, however, especially in Tallinn. There are 3 zones in the centre of Tallinn, parking elsewhere is (mostly) free of charge:

- The Old Town - 24/7 - € 4.8/h or € 287.6/month
- Zone 1 - 24/7 - € 3/h or € 223.69/month
- Zone 2 - Mon-Fri 08:00-19:00, Sat 08:00-15:00 - € 1.6/h or € 127.82/month

Residents can get yearly parking permits for €120.

There are of course a lot of private parking lots but their fares vary greatly depending on the location.
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In Romania, for driving on all national roads (DN) or motorways (A) you need to have a vignette (rovigneta). This vignette is an electronic one, so you don't have any sticker, but just a piece of paper (the receipt) that you must have in your car if you drive on this road types. You can buy the vignette for cars for 7, 30, 90 days or 12 months, and the prices vary from 3 € to 28 €. For trucks the vignette costs 1210 € for one year. The prices can be checked here.

Special taxes are imposed at 4 Danube bridges:
- A2 motorway (Bucharest-Constanta), at Cernavoda: 2,90 €
- main road DN2A Giurgeni - Vadu Oii: 2,45 €
- Giurgiu (RO) - Ruse (BG): 3 €
- Calafat (RO) - Vidin (BG): 6 €

The prices stated above are what I found online for cars. For trucks they are higher.

Parking in city-centers is usually taxed between 0,25 to 1 € per hour, depending on the parking area. Each city has it's own taxes and rules, and the payment is done differently in each city (via SMS, prepay card, ticket machines etc.).

Parking in supermarkets/mall parking lots is usually free, but some of them impose a tax if you leave your car there for a longer period of time.
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Simple supply and demand: way more people want to park in downtown areas than there's room for, so (1) private businesses can open a parking garage and find people willing to pay to use them and (2) governments can use them as a source of revenue. (And it's a federal state with a lot of autonomy even within states for local governments..."a country that advocates automobile usage" doesn't necessarily mean that every mayor or city council feels that way....)
I see

Or could it be that SF is more compact and dense in terms of layout? Space may not be as available there..........compared to say wide-open places in America such as Nevada or Texas.

Just my hunch though......

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Of course you cannot provide parking for everybody, but there's need to provide a reasonable amount of parking so not only the elite can park and the average John is sanctioned to long unfavorable commutes with public transit.
I see.............but I have a question:
What about in places that are really tight with land area amidst a relatively high or dense human population count.............like Hong Kong???





What's your opinion on that?

http://www.reinventingparking.org/20...-and-very.html
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