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Old November 18th, 2005, 08:17 PM   #1
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First Bullet Train in North America to be Built in Mexico

Mexico to open bidding on rapid train project

El Universal
Viernes 18 de noviembre de 2005
Miami Herald,

Mexico will open bidding on a US12 billion bullet train project to link the capital with the country's second-largest city, Guadalajara.
The bidding is expected to begin by early 2006 after a feasibility study is completed, Transportation Secretary Pedro Cerisola y Weber said Wednesday.

The train would reduce travel times on a 600-kilometer (375mile) route that would also link the central Mexico cities of Queretaro, Irapuato and Leon. Mexico City is seven hours from Guadalajara by bus; officials have not said how long the journey would take on the bullet train.

Mexico City was left without passenger trains in 2001 for the first time in 127 years. Work is now scheduled on a suburban commuter rail line.

Most national passenger runs were quietly canceled in 1999 following decades of mismanagement of the state-owned passenger rail service. Mexican trains carried 37.4 million passengers a year at their peak in the 1970s.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 10:55 PM   #2
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This is a proposal but california and florida both have proposals to build bullet trains all florida needs is the money and Tampa will be linked to Orlando with a bullet train so until you see concrete pillars going up i woudlnt believe it because building a train is expensive today
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Old November 18th, 2005, 11:09 PM   #3
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No this is not a proposal. Bidding is already in place and has as you can read has been announced. The bidding is being handled by a French concern.

Neither Florida nor California have concrete plans for high speed trains, The reason there is no money for US projects which is currently being funneled to fund expensive foolish wars and not spent in people or infrastructure.

It is a matter of priorities.

12 Billion Dollars is not much for an economy the size of Mexico's, and it makes more sense in it's highly urbanized and developed urban corridors.

Orlando and Tampa are set in steamy swamps in the backwaters of the south. In any case their inhabitants prefer gas guzzeling SUV's.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 11:25 PM   #4
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Good luck to you Mexico!! Hopefully I'll get a chance to ride this train someday.
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Old November 19th, 2005, 02:35 AM   #6
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No trains in Mexico since 2001?
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Old November 19th, 2005, 02:50 AM   #7
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No this is not a proposal. Bidding is already in place and has as you can read has been announced. The bidding is being handled by a French concern.

Neither Florida nor California have concrete plans for high speed trains, The reason there is no money for US projects which is currently being funneled to fund expensive foolish wars and not spent in people or infrastructure.

It is a matter of priorities.

12 Billion Dollars is not much for an economy the size of Mexico's, and it makes more sense in it's highly urbanized and developed urban corridors.

Orlando and Tampa are set in steamy swamps in the backwaters of the south. In any case their inhabitants prefer gas guzzeling SUV's.
Didn't leave anybody out of that now did you?
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Old November 19th, 2005, 02:50 AM   #8
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Oh no, zee americans may get angry.
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Old November 19th, 2005, 03:25 AM   #9
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No trains in Mexico since 2001?

Yeap...that's right NO PASSENGER trains since 2001.

They were old and competed for track space with frieght trains. It is a shame. But reason has since taken over and several projects are in the works:

1. Bullet Train Mexico City- Guadalajara (the first in the Western Hemisphere! and don't say Aceola it's just a "bullet" shaped clunker)
2. Suburban trains around Mexico City
3. Inter-urban train in the central Mexican state of Guanajuato.
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Old November 19th, 2005, 03:28 AM   #10
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Damn cocky Gringos!
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Old November 19th, 2005, 03:32 AM   #11
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Why do you keep insulting Americans in this thread? This is supposed to be about trains in Mexico, not their peers in America.
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Old November 19th, 2005, 03:35 AM   #12
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Yeap...that's right NO PASSENGER trains since 2001.

They were old and competed for track space with frieght trains. It is a shame. But reason has since taken over and several projects are in the works:

1. Bullet Train Mexico City- Guadalajara (the first in the Western Hemisphere! and don't say Aceola it's just a "bullet" shaped clunker)
2. Suburban trains around Mexico City
3. Inter-urban train in the central Mexican state of Guanajuato.
Not the first in the western hemisphere. Spain is just in the western hemisphere and they have it already. First in the Americas though, still not a bad achievment at all .
I'm really Glad to see such development in Mexico, it could really boast the economy over a wide area. And I hope to visit Mexico one day so maybe I'll get to ride it .
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Why do you keep insulting Americans in this thread? This is supposed to be about trains in Mexico, not their peers in America.

RELAX, It's a "term of endearment" I just hate your president and the caos and hell that he has created on the common people of Irak.

With all of the great institutions and think tanks in the US ...the only fool you can come up with to lead the free world was this simpleton?

I am so pisssed off at the American electorate for being so naive about the world around them.

Remember ... Bush impacts the world.... Oaxaca, Timbuctu, Naitrobi Madras and not just Peoria. This naive, mumbling village fool is at the helm!

GOD couldn't you have done better?

Anyway back to trains.
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Old November 19th, 2005, 04:50 AM   #14
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Not the first in the western hemisphere. Spain is just in the western hemisphere and they have it already. First in the Americas though, still not a bad achievment at all .
I'm really Glad to see such development in Mexico, it could really boast the economy over a wide area. And I hope to visit Mexico one day so maybe I'll get to ride it .
What is "western hemisphere"?

There are 2 hemispheres:
-Northern.
-Southern.

Spain has got high speed trains since 1992, 4th country in the world.
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Who will be making the trains??
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The western hemisphere is the americas and the eastern hemisphere is eurasia/africa/australia.
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It's a bidding process so I don't know. Certainly Seimens, CAF and Bombardier will apply.
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This should be a wake up call to the states to start investing money in rail instead of freeways.
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Yes indeed before the oceans swallow Manhattan.
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Old November 19th, 2005, 05:57 AM   #20
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PROJECT FOR A MEXICO CITY - GUADALARAJA HIGH SPEED LINE

The Ministry of Communications and Transport for Mexico (SCT) has appointed SYSTRA to assist it in drawing up the terms of tender for the turnkey project to build a high-speed line between Mexico City and Guadalajara. The tender is due to be launched in mid 2005.
In the second phase of the project, SYSTRA will help SCT with the process of drawing up the contracts and the deed of concession which will be awarded to the contracting firm responsible for the design, construction and operation of this twin-track line.
SYSTRA is supported by 2 Mexican firms, one for legal aspects and the other partner providing technical assistance (SINTRA S.A. de C.V. Sistemas INtegrales para el TRAnsporte), to ensure the transfer of technology, optimum integration of the project, and compliance with Mexican law.
The Mexican Federal Government has been working on this project since 2002. The line will operate at a commercial speed of around 300 km per hour, cutting journey time between Mexico City and Guadalajara to 2 hours. It will also serve the cities of Queretaro and Irapuato. In total, 28 million people will benefit from the new line. According to the SCT, fares will be comparable to those of luxury coaches, with a faster and safer service.
The line will be the first step in a programme to develop high speed lines across Mexico.
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