First Bullet Train in North America to be Built in Mexico
Mexico to open bidding on rapid train project
El Universal
Viernes 18 de noviembre de 2005
Miami Herald,
Mexico will open bidding on a US12 billion bullet train project to link the capital with the country's second-largest city, Guadalajara.
The bidding is expected to begin by early 2006 after a feasibility study is completed, Transportation Secretary Pedro Cerisola y Weber said Wednesday.
The train would reduce travel times on a 600-kilometer (375mile) route that would also link the central Mexico cities of Queretaro, Irapuato and Leon. Mexico City is seven hours from Guadalajara by bus; officials have not said how long the journey would take on the bullet train.
Mexico City was left without passenger trains in 2001 for the first time in 127 years. Work is now scheduled on a suburban commuter rail line.
Most national passenger runs were quietly canceled in 1999 following decades of mismanagement of the state-owned passenger rail service. Mexican trains carried 37.4 million passengers a year at their peak in the 1970s.
We must seize the momentum. In this kind of projects if you dont take the momentum, the project dies.
Next year there are elections in Mexico and if this project is belated, im sure is not going to be done and would become politically and economically unfeasible in 1 year.
Next year there are elections in Mexico and if this project is belated, im sure is not going to be done and would become politically and economically unfeasible in 1 year.
SCT ruled out the applications that Alstom and Bombardier requested in order to delay the bid of the MQ HSR up to 200 more days, and at the same time reaffirmed the importance of complying with the terms of the contest.
Therefore, there will be no going back on the construction of the High Speed Train Mexico-Queretaro, which is the first project of its kind to be built in Latin America, so it must start operations in 2017.
In the link is explained in spanish but basically because Alstom has been making irresponsible declarations and requesting with insistence more time without giving technical explanations of why. The main problem with Alstom is that they built the Mexico City Metro Line 12 that was inaugurated in 2012 and as for today the line is not working, have had several problems and will be repaired by the end of 2015! it is a huge scandal here and Alstom have been more interested on doing politics than on getting ready to compete. They have even menaced on abandoning Mexico if they dont win the HSR, pff!
Personally Im dissapointed of Bombardier who is taking the place of a victim because of chinese participation. If there was a company that has been invited to this project since years ago is Bombardier, but never moved a finger to get ready, although they always said there had everything ready.
There are more open tenders, like the Mexico-Toluca Intercity, and the chinese are not allowed to participate there because is only for the countries with free trade agreements with Mexico. I hope Bombardier take seriously this tender and stop saying "Esta en Chino".
I am hoping for CAF to win the bid, it's good to have an underdog snapping at the heels of the big 3 and Chinese to keep them on their toes. As for China, I wonder that if they win the bid, that this will open possibilites of copyright (?) violations, as their designs are derivatives of Big 3 and Kawasaki high speed designs- typically technology transfer agreements include a clause that prohibits selling of such transfered technology to export markets. Should the Chinese go ahead, and I believe they will as it is their M.O., will those makers sit on their hands for fear of losing future business to the Chinese?
I live in Los Angeles California, and the sad thing is I'll have a bigger chance to see a high speed rail before my eyes in Mexico than here. I believe it is the year 2029 when the California high speed rail will be up and running. :/
It is a shame. I really expected a duel between the Bombardier Zefiro and the Alstom AGV. If there's no chance for the shinkansen to be selected (as Elektro said before), my only hope is that Siemens wins the bid.
It is a shame. I really expected a duel between the Bombardier Zefiro and the Alstom AGV. If there's no chance for the shinkansen to be selected (as Elektro said before), my only hope is that Siemens wins the bid.
^^the most important in our case is to build this railway on time and affordable . remember that in the first 5 years of operation there will be transfer of technology as the tender says.
It's a shame that Alstom and Bombardier are not ready for this, specially the latter. With their presence in Mexico I would have expected them to be ready for when this came and they know fully well the political realities of Mexico and how this project must be ready and delivered by the 30th of november 2018.
But is Siemens still in? I hope the Chinese bid doesn't just win by default. Competition is good for getting a quality product.
There will be at least 2 bids the chinese and spanish or germans, or the three.
Siemens has been pretty quiet since the clarification meetings, CAF and its consortium seems very strong and ready since the beginning and for its recent declarations.
One thing is sure, there will be a bid next October 15th, so we will have HSR.
^^ It's the only thing they have 300 km/h. To 320 exactly.
Since September 2011 are testing a prototype 4-engine cars, 5,280 kW and 215 seats at 101 meters. Take a new system itself CAF to increase curve speed.
China Railway Construction Corporation (CRCC), already has a financing scheme.
Although a funding proposal is not required by the Secretariat of Communications and Transportation (SCT), the Asian company aims to propose a scheme with banking institutions in China.
"The SCT has not stipulated in the tender a subject of funding, but it is necessary that those involved in this project have the scheme ready, so we will prepare a proposal of our model, we expect that Mexico considers" said Hu Zhenyi .
funding would be excellent to start developing the 2nd stage soon as possible.
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