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Old September 30th, 2014, 07:10 PM   #321
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Ok, just wait for canadians. We can make it on time (I... I think)
no problem, they requested a month or so, thats ok
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Old October 1st, 2014, 05:50 PM   #322
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China Development Bank, the Bank of China and the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China will participate in a fund with mexican counterparts to finance the MQ HSR

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Old October 1st, 2014, 06:58 PM   #323
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I don't know.. There's much more experience building HSR in Japan and Europe
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Old October 1st, 2014, 07:47 PM   #324
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China seems to be doing an excellent job at it though. I wish China could come and build a U.S. High Speed railway infrastructure.
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Old October 1st, 2014, 07:49 PM   #325
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I don't know.. There's much more experience building HSR in Japan and Europe
the problem is that japanese seems not interested on develop HSR in Mexico, they are more interested in California or Texas and of the europeans only spanish and germans took this seriously.

let's wait to see what happen, but the chinese are taking every right step to win this bid so far.
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 12:43 PM   #326
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Thanks for the info Elekto.

Not to mention that the China-Mexico relationship has really improved since Calderon left power. The Chinese had been absent from investing in Mexico for years, but that's all changing now. There's even talk of a common investment fund for infrastructure projects in Mexico. The Chinese bid has strong political and economic backing.
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 09:38 PM   #327
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What happen to the big announcement schedule for today Oct. 2nd 2014????
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 11:20 PM   #328
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what announcement?
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 12:27 AM   #329
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Isn't today when they announcement the winner of the contract.

Also the design of the fleet and everything else?
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 12:47 AM   #330
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Isn't today when they announcement the winner of the contract.

Also the design of the fleet and everything else?
no, the deadline for presenting the bids is October 15th so far and we are waiting since there are consortiums requesting more time.

if everything continue on tracks, at beginning of november we have a winner and in december construction starts.

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Last friday September 12th was the third and final clarification meeting of the tender of the MQ HSR. The SCT, who commands Gerardo Ruiz Esparza, completed the process despite some disagreements concerned requesting that the process be extended to 240 days from the basis of 180 days. However, the receipt of bids is maintained for October 15th.

In advance the provider of rolling stock that is outlined with ICA, which handles Alonso Quintana, is the German Siemens, while Carso of Carlos Slim discusses to join with the french Alstom, confirming the dissolution of the team that built the Metro Line 12 in Mexico City. Meanwhile, Bombardier, directed by Alfredo Nolasco negotiates with IAMSA.
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Studies for the 2nd stage already done, the extension to Celaya, Irapuato, Guadalajara and Leon.

62 participants registered.

1st stage to begin construction this December said Pablo Suarez Coello, Director of Railway and Multimodal Transportation Subsecretariat DGTFM.

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lets be patient, all is going very good

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Old October 3rd, 2014, 03:24 AM   #331
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China seems to be doing an excellent job at it though. I wish China could come and build a U.S. High Speed railway infrastructure.
This is quite handy as a tool to further China's neocolonial advances too
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 08:17 PM   #332
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China Railway Construction Corporation will present its bid on October 15th, so the other companies of the caliber of Siemens, ICA, Alstom, Bombardier, CAF and Indra and Thales, refine alliances to try to compete with the Asian giant. It could be that the president Enrique Peņa Nieto during his visit to China next November 12th announce as winner of the Mexico-Queretaro High Speed Rail to the Chinese firm.

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This is quite handy as a tool to further China's neocolonial advances too
but why Japan never presented a consortium to compete for this project?
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Interesting elekto, thanks.

It seems that the momentum is clearly on the Chinese bids side.
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Old October 4th, 2014, 07:40 PM   #335
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We must seize the momentum. In this kind of projects if you dont take the momentum, the project dies.

Next year there are elections in Mexico and if this project is belated, im sure is not going to be done and would become politically and economically unfeasible in 1 year.

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Old October 4th, 2014, 08:32 PM   #336
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Next year there are elections in Mexico and if this project is belated, im sure is not going to be done and would become politically and economically unfeasible in 1 year.
Politically you probably know better, but why would economic feasibility change in just one year? That seems unlikely.
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Old October 4th, 2014, 08:49 PM   #337
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Politically you probably know better, but why would economic feasibility change in just one year? That seems unlikely.
right now there are currency turbulences and the peso is being depreciated which makes the importation of this technology more expensive; at same time soon wages will be uprising, that is another factor that will make the construction more expensive.

There are many other infrastructure projects ongoing in Mexico right now, as the new airport, more trains, etc, so the competition for funds in next year's budget will be wild.

Is urgent we have the contracts signed.

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Old October 5th, 2014, 07:15 AM   #338
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That's a nice photo. By any chance you may have a higher resolution?
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Old October 5th, 2014, 06:44 PM   #339
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Old October 7th, 2014, 01:04 AM   #340
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by now seems Bombardier is out of the competition also.

Seems that the spanish are the only ones that will face the chinese in this tender.
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