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Old October 10th, 2014, 11:49 PM   #381
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In my perspective I see it more Feasibility on building a HSR from Mexico City to Monterrey than to Texas, I know alooot of regios ( monterrey born people) in Mexico City going to monterrey very frequently and Monterrey is on the Rise to become a Financial centre along with Mexico City, so in a near future there would be a huge demand on communication and transport between these two cities.
youre right about the attractiveness and economic output of MTY, but my doubts refers more to the distance (800km) and the terrain; the cost could become exponential and uncompetitive with the plane; is needed a feasibility study for the case.
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Old October 11th, 2014, 02:25 AM   #382
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youre right about the attractiveness and economic output of MTY, but my doubts refers more to the distance (800km) and the terrain; the cost could become exponential and uncompetitive with the plane; is needed a feasibility study for the case.
How about Guadalajara? That is closer and would pass through denser areas, no?
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Old October 11th, 2014, 02:30 AM   #383
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How about Guadalajara? That is closer and would pass through denser areas, no?
Guadalajara is sure in the 2nd stage of this project, studies are already done to extend this HSR to Celaya, Irapuato, Leon and Guadalajara.

in fact the main objective of all this project is to connect Mexico City and Guadalajara.

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Old October 11th, 2014, 04:31 AM   #384
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Mexico City ~ Guadalajara via Puebla sounds like a good route....
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Old October 11th, 2014, 05:34 PM   #385
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Puebla-Guadalajara via Mexico City, eventually it could be
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Old October 11th, 2014, 05:48 PM   #386
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China Railway Construction Corporation (CRCC), already has a financing scheme.

Although a funding proposal is not required by the Secretariat of Communications and Transportation (SCT), the Asian company aims to propose a scheme with banking institutions in China.

"The SCT has not stipulated in the tender a subject of funding, but it is necessary that those involved in this project have the scheme ready, so we will prepare a proposal of our model, we expect that Mexico considers" said Hu Zhenyi .

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funding would be excellent to start developing the 2nd stage soon as possible.
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Old October 12th, 2014, 08:11 PM   #388
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CRH2C (stage 2)

Structure: Aluminum
Max speed: 350km/h
Seats 610
Total power on wheels: 8.760 kW
Total length of the train: 200m
Width: 3.380m
Height: 3.700m
Track gauge 1.435m
Built by CSR Sifang






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Old October 12th, 2014, 10:14 PM   #389
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I do not think submit that train.
They have had many legal problems with Kawasaki account of CRH380A, a "Chinese" evolution of the same CRH2C, which in turn is an evolution of CRH2A, which is the Chinese version of the Japanese E2.
I mean, objectively, the CRH2C is more Kawasaki than CRH380A.
E2>CRH2A>CRH2C>CRH380A
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No creo que presenten ese tren.
Han tenido muchos problemas legales con Kawasaki a cuenta del CRH380A, que es una evolución "china" de este mismo CRH2C, que, a su vez es una evolución del CRH2A que es la versión china del E2 japonés.
Quiero decir que, objetivamente, el CRH2C es más Kawasaki que el CRH380A.
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Old October 12th, 2014, 11:40 PM   #390
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good to know

they should bid the CRH380C by CNR, or what other model does CSR has that meet the requirements?
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Old October 13th, 2014, 12:21 AM   #391
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It is very problematic in almost all cases, except for the models of the joint venture Bombardier-CSR Sifang: CRH380D (Zefiro 380) and CRH1A 250NG (Zefiro 250).
The CRH380B has 18% of Siemens recognized, the CRH380C is very similar but does not participate Siemens but Hitachi, although I've heard no complaints.
And with the CRH380A there was much noise, although it seems that in the end there is no judgment.
https://www.google.com/search?q=kawasaki+china+crh380A
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Es muy problemático en casi todos los casos, salvo los modelos de la joint-venture Bombardier-CSR Sifang: CRH380D (Zefiro 380) y CRH1A 250NG (Zefiro 250).
El CRH380B tiene un 18 % de Siemens reconocido, el CRH380C es muy parecido pero no participa Siemens sino Hitachi, aunque no he oído quejas.
Y con el CRH380A hubo mucho ruido, aunque parece que al final no habrá juicio.
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Old October 13th, 2014, 12:27 AM   #392
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well, lets wait to see what happen and btw we are also waiting for the spanish to bid, although they are very discrete, hope they bid the Oaris so much.

thanks a lot Gusiluz
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I'd want to hear more from the spanish proposal. And the Siemens's.
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I'd want to hear more from the spanish proposal. And the Siemens's.
they are 100% quiet, no news at all.

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CRH380D

Structure: Aluminum
Max speed: 380km/h
Seats 495
Total power on wheels: 10.000 kW
Total length of the train: 215m
Width: 3.328m
Height: 4.040m
Track gauge 1.435m
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"CRCC does not manufacture rolling stock, however, a sister company, CSR, is engaged in the manufacture of rolling stock".

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Donegal can smile if they bid the CRH380D
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And with the CRH380A there was much noise, although it seems that in the end there is no judgment.
https://www.google.com/search?q=kawasaki+china+crh380A
It's hard to find anything useful even from that search, as the only coverage that directly talks about the outcome comes from CCP mouthpieces, which always have strong nationalistic tendencies.
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Donegal can smile if they bid the CRH380D
I'm kinda skeptical about the chinese proposal. I mean, cheaper is not always better.
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It's hard to find anything useful even from that search, as the only coverage that directly talks about the outcome comes from CCP mouthpieces, which always have strong nationalistic tendencies.
Naturally the views of Chinese origin and those of Japanese origin defend their own interests, so I put the search, because there are multiple opinions. I think this is something fair:

An article of The Jamestown Foundation: “Chinese High Speed Rail Leapfrog”, development this summer.
http://www.jamestown.org/programs/ch...758&no_cache=1
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The CRH380D looks almost identical to the Zefiro. Can the Chinese really offer that train when it's a co-production with Bombardier? Aren't there some tehchnology license issues there?

The deadline is the day after tomorrow. We've heard little from the Siemens and the CAF bids. I hope that it's just a case of keeping their cards close to their vests and not that they're not thinking of delivering a proposal. I want a competitive adjudication process.
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