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Old October 21st, 2014, 10:08 PM   #521
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There's nothing happening in Brazil...
Brazil builds the most rail in all of Latin America. There are currently various light rail systems being built in Brazil's medium sized cities, so it's not just the big cities getting all the action. It's enough to make even american cities blue with envy.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1397572


As for the Mexican high speed rail project, It's great to finally see this project take off. I recall hearing about it several years ago, took a while for it to finally take off. The rolling stock isnt too bad either.
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 12:24 AM   #522
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That's what I meant. Once the decision is taken, there is no possibility for
citizens possibly impacted to seek recourse, and they certainly do not
embarrass themselves with environmental impact studies or archeological
surveys. That alone can save 50% of the elapsed time. And there won't be
endless discussions about where the funding is going to come from either.
Yes there is, take for example the Beijing-Shengyang HSR, it was announced in 2008, but its first three EIS's were rejected, and local residents protested against its route, the line was delayed for five years until it finally got approved in 2013. There are still opposition and a petition was started so construction preparation didn't start until a few months ago.

All Chinese HSR lines have to go through EIS and public comment before they can proceed, and then it takes a great amount of time to acquire all the land needed, land acquisition cost is one of the biggest factor in Chinese HSR construction cost.
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 05:45 PM   #523
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But you are wrong on this, there's both environmental impact studies and archaeological surveys when needed. Sure, there's generally no way for citizens to impact decisions after they have been taking. But in all practical sense there's no way for individual citizens in the US to do this either. Instead there's endless exchanges of lawsuits between different economic actors on who to benefit from a project.

Now, all of this is way off topic. But my main point is that China do have an effective state apparatus that includes obvious things such as environmental impact studies and so on. They might not be perfect, or always followed but it's a myth that there's no proper state apparatus in China that handles the everyday bureaucratic issues. Instead we must look into the allocation of investment and centralized economy as key factors for the rapid construction of HSR.
If just not having democracy was enough every non democracy would be having HSR.
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 10:34 PM   #524
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Old October 25th, 2014, 02:50 AM   #525
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China Expected to Supply Mexico with High-Speed 'Bullet' Trains



China will likely begin supplying Mexico bullet trains through a consortium of four Chinese companies and four Mexican firms, reports Caixin Online. It would mark the first time China has exported its high-speed trains.

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http://www.chinatopix.com/articles/1...d-csr-corp.htm


I've read that the mexican secretary of communications and transportation is optimistic about the chinese proposal.

"If we had accepted an 240 days extension, it would implied to lose more that a thousand million mexican pesos per year in resources already contemplated to be spent on the train in 2015".

http://www.radioformula.com.mx/notas...0507&idFC=2014
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I hope the mexican train keeps the yellow/grey painting because looks so amazing
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Old October 25th, 2014, 10:12 PM   #528
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I hope the mexican train keeps the yellow/grey painting because looks so amazing


It will resemble a school bus.
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A red and white or red and black scheme would look amazing. I hope they don't paint the entire train with the three colors as usual. Even a gradient from red to orange would look nice.
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Old October 26th, 2014, 12:45 AM   #530
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That train is a train laboratory, hence its color, style Japanese Doctor Yellow. Is the Comprehensive Inspection Test trainset CIT400A, derived from CRH380A.001.
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Old October 26th, 2014, 05:52 AM   #531
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A red and white or red and black scheme would look amazing. I hope they don't paint the entire train with the three colors as usual. Even a gradient from red to orange would look nice.
you could make some renders

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Old October 26th, 2014, 06:25 AM   #532
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A red and white or red and black scheme would look amazing. I hope they don't paint the entire train with the three colors as usual. Even a gradient from red to orange would look nice.


this one keeps on appearing for the Mexico-Toluca one, hopefully its just for illustrative purposes and it doesn't turn into the real look for either train.


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this one keeps on appearing for the Mexico-Toluca one, hopefully its just for illustrative purposes and it doesn't turn into the real look for either train.


source:www.elrespetabledf.com
Yeah, that's exactly what I mean:



Talking about bad taste. I wonder why they always put their flag's colors on their vehicles? I understand, they have some patriotic reasons, but hey, you don't need to paint green, white and red on everything, right?

I really hope they're thinking about hiring a professional designer.


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I'm not a designer, but maybe we could play a little



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The first HSR in the Americas-Central, South and North! Kudos!

BTW, this is also the first HSR export of China so the claim that China exports only cheap goods...well its gonna change now.
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I'm not a designer, but maybe we could play a little



man! haha maybe the consortium should consider your proposal!
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I have a feeling it'll end up exactly what we have feared, the red white green scheme.
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I'd rather the white and grey scheme. Green doesn't look good on it. Maybe in small amounts, but is a color so overrated in Mexico.
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Mainly red and minor green and white stripes to complement and not be an eye soar.
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That doesn't look bad at all, Donegal. I liked it.
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Old October 28th, 2014, 09:06 AM   #540
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ojala y si se concrete:

A video of the Queretaro-Mexico HSR
I actually like the nice simple white, green, and red color
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