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Old February 28th, 2014, 07:28 PM   #101
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MEXICO | High Speed Rail

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Route selected for Mexico City - Querétaro high speed line
28 Feb 2014

MEXICO: The Secretariat of Transport & Communications has published the environmental impact statement for the proposed high speed line between Mexico City and Querétaro, which is expected to cost 40·8bn pesos to build.

Engineered for 300 km/h operation, the preferred route would run for 212·18 km from a refurbished Buenavista terminus in Mexico City via Huehuetoca and San Juan del Río.

A provisional terminus is planned in Querétaro to the east of Avenida Bernardo Quintana, to be replaced in the longer term with a more centrally-located facility in the Parque Alcanfores district.

With an end-to-end journey time of 1 h 2 min, initial traffic on the high speed line between Mexico City and Querétaro is forecast at 11 200 passengers/day in both directions, according to the environmental impact statement.
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Old March 1st, 2014, 10:16 AM   #102
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When is it supposed to finish construction? Travel through Mexico by rail today is awful. Buses are more frequent and faster
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Old March 1st, 2014, 11:56 AM   #103
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It's just a feasibility study, isn't it? The decision to build it or not and where the money for it comes is still in the future...
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Old March 2nd, 2014, 12:15 AM   #104
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This is never going to happen.
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Old March 2nd, 2014, 05:19 AM   #105
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In relation to its economy's size, population size and density, Mexico is the second largest country without intercity passenger rail transport, except the Chepe tourist line and a small suburban service out of DF. Such a shame. And I doubt this will be built. Latin America has an abismal record on passenger rail transport...
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Old May 29th, 2014, 07:50 PM   #106
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Mexico to tender $7.4 billion in passenger train projects in 2014
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(Reuters) - Mexico's government will tender three passenger train projects this year worth 97 billion pesos ($7.4 billion), two of which will service the capital's sprawling metropolitan area, the country's transport ministry said on Tuesday.

Project details will be published ahead of the contract tender in early 2014, the ministry said in a statement.

The new trains will connect the country's capital with the cities of Toluca and Queretaro, in addition to a train traversing tourist destinations along Mexico's southern Yucatan peninsula.

The 237-kilometer (147 mile) Mexico City-Queretaro route will cost about $3.3 billion.

The 47-mile route connecting Mexico City with Toluca, capital of the state of Mexico, will cost $2.9 billion, while the nearly 200-mile Yucatan route will cost $1.2 billion.

Both public and private funds will be used to build the projects, the ministry said.

In July, Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto said he expects to oversee $300 billion in spending on major infrastructure projects aimed at beefing up the country's economy during his six-year term.

Public and private investments in transportation and communications infrastructure will reach nearly a third of that total between 2013 and 2018, the president said.

Bombardier Inc (BBDb.TO), the world's biggest train manufacturer, will likely bid on each of the rail projects, the company's Mexico chief said in June.

Markus Mildner, executive vice president of Siemens Mexico (SIEGn.DE), has said the German industrial conglomerate, is also interested in bidding on rail projects.

Mexican trains currently transport about 13 percent of freight cargo, but only 1.2 percent of passengers, according to government data. Cars and trucks, meanwhile, account for more than half of freight and 96 percent of passengers.

($1 = 13.1151 Mexican pesos)
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Old May 29th, 2014, 08:00 PM   #107
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It will be built, there is already a lot of money invested. Plus it is part of a bigger plan for passenger train rails in the USA and Mexico
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Old May 30th, 2014, 12:34 PM   #108
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Well, when it comes to investment it should of course be noted that Mexico already has a decent rail network. Privatized in the early 1990s it's a bit harder to implement passenger schemes but it shouldn't be impossible to negotiate as Amtrak are doing across the border.

There are quite a few cities that would be perfect for commuter or short inter-city services with upgrades to the already existing tracks.
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Old July 28th, 2014, 04:08 PM   #109
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(Reuters) - Mexico on Sunday announced the opening of an international tender to build a high-speed passenger train linking Mexico City and the industrial city of Queretaro.

The project, which was previously estimated to cost about $3.3 billion, would allow travel over the 210 kilometers (130 miles) between the Mexican capital and Queretaro at up to 300 kph, moving 23,000 passengers a day, Mexico's transport ministry said in a statement.

The ministry gave no price estimate, adding that work would begin this year and operations would start in the second half of 2017.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0Q20LD20140727

3 years from first shovel to completion. If achieved, that must be some kind of a world record, especially given the challenging terrain between Mexico City and Queretaro.
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Old July 28th, 2014, 04:38 PM   #110
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3.3 billion for 210 km of HSR at 300 km/h (kph does not make any sense, but then again it's used in country still using the imperial system) is a bit optimistic, IMO.
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Old July 28th, 2014, 06:03 PM   #111
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Mexico is extremely cheap country, is amazing how inexpensive is to produce in that country, intensive cheap manpower and qualified engineering. There is financial and macroeconomic stability assured for at least the rest of this decade, so no surprise they will be able to achieve this challenge.

this map from last year, envisions 2 high-speed lines, the tender for the Merida-Cancun line is soon also.



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Old July 28th, 2014, 06:04 PM   #112
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Kilometers per hour (kph) means the same thing as km/h. Neither makes any more or less sense than the other.
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I suppose Mexico City - Queretaro is just the first phase? Because it would certainly make much more sense to extend the line to Leon and Guadalajara as well.
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Old July 28th, 2014, 06:18 PM   #114
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3 years from first shovel to completion. If achieved, that must be some kind of a world record, especially given the challenging terrain between Mexico City and Queretaro.

the terrain is not that bad, in this video you can see short clips of the render where the line will run, is mainly flat, no mountains, no lakes, no rivers, only small ravines.



about a 10% of the line is already done since in 2008 the government rebuilt the Buenavista station in Mexico City and developed a suburban train line, who will share the track with the high speed train for about 27km of the 210km to Queretaro, so are about 183km of high speed line to be built only.


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Buenavista Station, Mexico City:


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I suppose Mexico City - Queretaro is just the first phase? Because it would certainly make much more sense to extend the line to Leon and Guadalajara as well.
Indeed is the 1st phase only, the extention to Guadalajara comes further.
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Kilometers per hour (kph) means the same thing as km/h. Neither makes any more or less sense than the other.
No, it doesn't. "k" is the abreviation for kilo of Kelvin (depending on whether it is capitalised or not) and kilo/Kelvin per hour doesn't measure anything. There's a reason why you can't find kph as a SI-abreviation anywhere.
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Old July 28th, 2014, 07:02 PM   #118
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In the context of rates of speed, the other measures aren't relevant. Besides, there's a difference between scientific terms and normal language. kph is in common enough usage that it's easily recognised - at least in metric parts of NA.
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Nothing scientific about km/h and I explained to you, why it doesn't make any sense. The fact that a big number of people think that this is the apropriate way of writing does not change this fact. And the metric parts of NA are scientists who use km/h.
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KingNick: strictly speak you are right, but is it really THAT important to argue about? Let's discuss trains better… A bit surprising that Mexico is allocating money for this with so many other problems around.
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