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Old March 2nd, 2014, 07:25 PM   #1
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Most absurd road laws and amusing signalizations

Here again, I will start by posting, this time, some funny things that we have in Switzerland .

Even, taking fact that we are a country of pragmatism and common sense , we do have some passably strange laws and few absurd signalizations :

1) If you forget you car-keys inside the car and you leave the car open, you will get fined .

2) It is forbidden to run out of fuel on motorways/expressways and inside a tunnel (depending on the situation, you can even have your driver's license revoked ).

3) Nearly every town and village, no matter how small and insignificant it can be, regulates parking and/or apply fee .

4) We use a lot the withdrawal of licenses with huge administrative costs and criminal penalties associated, going up to confiscation of vehicle and jail terms, no matter you've hurt nobody (more than 76'000 permit were revoked in 2012).

5) You can be on a straight large road without any construction, and still have low speed limits .

6) Some cities instead of relieving transit traffic puts lots of baffles and cameras to slow it down and, therefore, creates artificial traffic jams .

7) Many cities limits or reduces number of parking spaces (even privately owned ones) without any alternative for its inhabitants and commuters/visitors .

8) There are, at Swiss average, 6 times more parking agents, than what tax authorities have in controllers and employees .


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And you, what nonsense have you got?

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Old March 2nd, 2014, 08:15 PM   #2
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2) It is forbidden to run out of fuel on motorways/expressways and inside a tunnel (depending on the situation, you can even have your driver's license revoked ).
I don't find this absurd at all. All stationary vehicles on motorways are a hazard, and this is one very easily avoided.

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5) You can be on a straight large road without any construction, and still have low speed limits .
Sometimes the speed limits are not set on the basis of road safety, but noise reduction. Of course this is hard to say without knowing the exact location; sometimes they are indeed stupid.

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6) Some cities instead of relieving transit traffic puts lots of baffles and cameras to slow it down and, therefore, creates artificial traffic jams .
I also disagree here: cameras don't create traffic jams, cars do. When there are too many of them in too small a place, there are always problems.

As of your picture; the speed limit and parking prohibition may concern horse-drawn vehicles and bicycles. Yes, both could exceed 30 km/h
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Old March 2nd, 2014, 09:31 PM   #3
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2) It is forbidden to run out of fuel on motorways/expressways and inside a tunnel (depending on the situation, you can even have your driver's license revoked ).

3) Nearly every town and village, no matter how small and insignificant it can be, regulates parking and/or apply fee .
I don't think these are stupid.

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Old March 2nd, 2014, 09:45 PM   #4
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One of the most absurd rules in Romania is the speed limit on a motorway while raining. Although the usual speed limit is 130 km/h, when just a few drops of water appear you have to drive with maximum 80 km/h:



On other road types in Romania (secondary roads for example), the speed limit is 90 or 100 km/h, regardless the weather conditions. Even on an unpaved road you are legally allowed to drive faster than on motorways while raining.
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In Italy and France it's 110 with rain, more reasonable.

Absurd Italian law: who has the license for less than 3 years, can't drive more than 100 on motorways and 90 on expressways. However speed traps don't bother who does less than 130/110 (they can't tell how old is the driver) so this law can be easily eluded.
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In Italy and France it's 110 with rain, more reasonable..
I know. 110 it's a reasonable speed on motorway while raining. But to have 80 km/h speed limit, while on an unpaved road in exactly the same conditions it's 90 km/h... I find this absurd.

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Absurd Italian law: who has the license for less than 3 years, can't drive more than 100 on motorways and 90 on expressways. However speed traps don't bother who does less than 130/110 (they can't tell how old is the driver) so this law can be easily eluded.
In Romania it's -20 km/h than the posted speed limit, outside urban areas, for the first year of license. This can only be enforced if a policeman pulls you over and sees you are a beginner driver.
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Absurd Italian law: who has the license for less than 3 years, can't drive more than 100 on motorways and 90 on expressways. However speed traps don't bother who does less than 130/110 (they can't tell how old is the driver) so this law can be easily eluded.
Until 2011 new drivers in Spain weren't allowed to drive faster than 80 km/h during the first year after obtaining the license.
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in Croatia drivers between 18-24 years may not drive vehicles with more than 80 kW
also they have 10 km/h lower speed limits than usually.
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Until 2011 new drivers in Spain weren't allowed to drive faster than 80 km/h during the first year after obtaining the license.
There used to be this kind of a law in Finland, too, until 1996. The law even required new drivers to post this with a "80" sticker attached to the rear end of their vehicles (which should have been taken off/ replaced whenever the driver was changed - or else even old drivers had to stick below 80, when sharing a car with a new driver).

Apparently authorities/politicians over there as well as here have understood that the less there are speed differences in the traffic, the better.
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The rule in Ontario similar to that is that you cannot go on motorways until you go either 8 months and driving school or just 1 year of your licence. you take another test, and you get access. this limits you to 80km/h roads, with the exception of 2 semi motorways which have 100km/h limits, but only because there is private property along those roads in which you need to get on the road to reach it. There are also a couple of 90km/h standard roads (only 2 or 3) which have 90km/h limits. generally though, you are limited to 80km/h.

I think there is one well intended, if not rather silly law that gets to me in Ontario. There is a rule that if you are under 21, there is not allowed to be any alcohol in your system whatsoever. While all nice and good, if you are over 21 you are only allowed roughly 1 beer. the difference between the two would be impossible to tell from streetside tests for a police officer, and they would have no reasonable way of bringing someone in to breathalyze them without some other reason to have them at a police office. it essentially is impossible to enforce, and is rather ageist as well. It would be much better if they had it for the first 5 years of driving or something instead of flat out being under 21.

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In Italy the general alchool limit is 0,5, But 0,0 for beginners (less than 3 years). Actually I like it, it's useful to educate young people not to drink and drive.
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in Croatia drivers between 18-24 years may not drive vehicles with more than 80 kW
also they have 10 km/h lower speed limits than usually.
In Italy newly licensed drivers, for their first year, can't drive:

1- cars more powerful than 70 kW;
2- cars with power/weight ratio greater than 55 kW/(metric) ton
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In Italy newly licensed drivers, for their first year, can't drive:

1- cars more powerful than 70 kW;
2- cars with power/weight ratio greater than 55 kW/(metric) ton
Really? Weird rules. In the Netherlands, there are some restrictions on motorbikes in the first years after getting a license, but none for cars (other than a stricter point system when you get pulled over).
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Weird but not that weird. This is done to prevent inexperienced drivers to drive a 70 kW engine (which is 95 hp) on a very light car, capable of high speed and maybe not very stable.
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Weird but not that weird. This is done to prevent inexperienced drivers to drive a 70 kW engine (which is 95 hp) on a very light car, capable of high speed and maybe not very stable.
Well, most cars in C-segment or up have more HP. Most inexperienced drivers start by driving their parents car. If it has more HP, they will have to wait a year after getting their license before they can drive, which doesn't make sense on any level in my opinion.
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So, if their parents drive a Mercedes E-Class (not to mention sports car), so should their kids? I don't think so.
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No restrictions for beginners in Sweden, apart from getting your license revoked the first two years means you have to retake the driving tests.
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In Italy beginners have double points removed from the license after every violation.
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In Italy beginners have double points removed from the license after every violation.
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Double points? Did you say it twice intentionally? :-)
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