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Old November 8th, 2016, 01:01 PM   #701
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That's more bad urban planning, banal but the architecture seems fairly nondescript.
Actually no, the planning is fairly good, but the state of the buildiongs themselves is atrocious.

I used to be of the exact same mindset as our Slovakian coforumer, but things have changed a lot for me. I started seeing a lot of old pics with commieblocks like they were when they were new, and I had to accept that they could look quite well and even excellent. It's neglect that and other several subtle but important facts that brought the buildings and neighbourhoods to a very bad state nowadays. But having gotten out of Eastern Europe and trying different things, I came to realize that the quality of living that commieblocks offer can be very good if the basics are well covered. But it's also true that many commieblocks were purposefully built at a really, really poor quality from the start in order to cut costs. That is one of the proper evil aspects of commie social engineering.

Another proper evil aspect is the erasing of the past, but in reality the distruction of old neighbourhoods to build commieblocks instead was fairly rare, Ceausescu's Romania was the worst offender in Eastern Europe. Visiting other former communist cities has initially shocked me as I was realizing that it was possible "to build a great socialist feature for the people" without needing to tore down the historical city centres. The example above is exactly one of an entire district built outside of the historical area of town.
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Old November 9th, 2016, 02:20 AM   #702
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Old November 9th, 2016, 02:22 AM   #703
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Actually no, the planning is fairly good, but the state of the buildiongs themselves is atrocious.

I used to be of the exact same mindset as our Slovakian coforumer, but things have changed a lot for me. I started seeing a lot of old pics with commieblocks like they were when they were new, and I had to accept that they could look quite well and even excellent. It's neglect that and other several subtle but important facts that brought the buildings and neighbourhoods to a very bad state nowadays. But having gotten out of Eastern Europe and trying different things, I came to realize that the quality of living that commieblocks offer can be very good if the basics are well covered. But it's also true that many commieblocks were purposefully built at a really, really poor quality from the start in order to cut costs. That is one of the proper evil aspects of commie social engineering.

Another proper evil aspect is the erasing of the past, but in reality the distruction of old neighbourhoods to build commieblocks instead was fairly rare, Ceausescu's Romania was the worst offender in Eastern Europe. Visiting other former communist cities has initially shocked me as I was realizing that it was possible "to build a great socialist feature for the people" without needing to tore down the historical city centres. The example above is exactly one of an entire district built outside of the historical area of town.
The problems are mainly lots of wasted space, low walkability, no real mix of uses. It's little better than American suburban sprawl.
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Old November 9th, 2016, 01:08 PM   #704
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Low walkability in commie neighbourhoods comes from decay of urban space and subsequent invasion of cars after the fall of communism.

In terms of usage, each neighbourhood normally had its own commercial centre (of course, not on the scale of what the consumer society now offers), school, kindergarten, a market, somewhere to drink a beer or eat an icecream... Many of them have indeed lost all their meaningful retail after communism, as the economic shifts meant that the plannified economy and its state shops went down and were replaced by big foreign retail chains following the super / hyper market model. However, many neighbourhoods have had small retail flourish, and it happened by turning ground floor appartments into shops, it's just that they tend to look ******* awful. As for what going out is concerned, commieblock neighbourhoods of course didn't develop a meaningful restaurant / pub culture because people were busy surviving in conditions of extreme poverty. The restaurants and pubs that did appear did it in the centres and most historical areas of town like it happens anywhere. In Romania the only city that developed eating and drinking places in commie neighbourhoods is Bucharest because Bucharest is the only really large city and consequently the only one where reaching the city centre walking or by a short ride in public transport is not often feasible.

In terms of wasted space I'm not sure what you mean. If you're referring to these neighbourhoods looking sometimes "out of town" like the above example from Slovakia, well, it is normal that when you build large scale new neighbourhoods you build them where there's free space. It also means less city heritage buldozed down. Mass transit towards city centre tended indeed to be fairly poor and most often there was no improvement since 1989, but it also has to be said that often such peripheral neighbourhoods were being built there because there was also a factory right near and the blocks were built to give home to the people that were going to work in the factory (it was the same for when my grandfather moved from his village to the city).
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Old November 13th, 2016, 07:11 PM   #705
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I love how all the plumbing is showing on the outside..lol..
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I like the coloured boxes, but the rest not so much
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The Nationalgalerie20 in Berlin, an extension to the existing Neue Nationalgalerie for 20th century art, that will connect the existing cultural sites of the Kulturforum, and occupy what is currently a green space.

The impossible competition called for a design that linked the Mies Van Der Rohe-designed Neue Nationalgalerie to the neighboring Philharmonic Hall, designed by Hans Scharoun, creating a cohesive whole.

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The 90s was not a great time for architecture in Canada

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YMMV bigly on this, but here's some Aymara architecture from Bolivia:

nice, i want my candy now.
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