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Old September 21st, 2015, 03:06 PM   #61
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I found this map. How accurate is that?
http://www.addislrt.com
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Old September 21st, 2015, 03:42 PM   #62
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I found this map. How accurate is that?
http://www.addislrt.com
Yes it is, except for sebategna junction station that one doesn't exist
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Old September 21st, 2015, 08:20 PM   #63
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The old rail corridor has been partly used for the Light Rail and i believe the plan for a National Rail network is influenced by the Chinese doctrines who built huge stations rather on the perimeter of a city.
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Thats silly , most people like to take the train because it often goes to the city center and not the outskirts like a plane...
As example for your assertion, one can see main railway stations in USA, quite ever located near the city center.
So people (who like that) can take a train. But no intercity trains run (or so few).

Same in Ethiopia : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_t...rt_in_Ethiopia.
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Old September 21st, 2015, 09:17 PM   #64
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The Airport is really not far from the North-south line....Are there plans to connect the airport to LRT?
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Old September 21st, 2015, 09:45 PM   #65
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The Airport is really not far from the North-south line....Are there plans to connect the airport to LRT?
There are no plans as of phase II.
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Old September 22nd, 2015, 05:00 AM   #66
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As example for your assertion, one can see main railway stations in USA, quite ever located near the city center.
So people (who like that) can take a train. But no intercity trains run (or so few).

Same in Ethiopia : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_t...rt_in_Ethiopia.
New York have a largest commuter and suburban rail network in the Americas and the one of largest network in the world.
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Old September 22nd, 2015, 12:54 PM   #68
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Old September 22nd, 2015, 06:45 PM   #69
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https://twitter.com/woldegrima/statu...80514093006848



https://twitter.com/VincentDefait/st...94242758836224



https://twitter.com/addis_fortune/st...77711718756352

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Old September 22nd, 2015, 08:43 PM   #70
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I am not one to allege that the emperor has no clothes, but this strikes me as a practical joke. The city has 5 million people and this is what they get?

I am sorry - this has nothing to do with development and everything to do with politics.

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Services are initially operating between 06.00 and 22.00 each day, with Chinese contractors providing both the drivers and the maintenance staff. The Chinese will also be responsible for maintaining the tramway’s independent power supply network which includes four substations with a total rating of 160 MW.
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Old September 22nd, 2015, 08:51 PM   #71
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I imagine the Chinese paid for it, besides Ethiopia currently lacks the skills to operate such a system. I take it you have never been to Addis.
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I am not one to allege that the emperor has no clothes, but this strikes me as a practical joke. The city has 5 million people and this is what they get?

I am sorry - this has nothing to do with development and everything to do with politics.



http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/u...ail-opens.html
So you are not ok with Ethiopian Railway Corporation to outsource operation and maintenance to a contractor which actually got experience? And where you get all those ethiopian drivers? Do you think it will be economical for Shenyang Metro to pay a chinese driver ten to twenty times of what a properly trained local one would earn? (They started training the first batch of Ethiopian staff in September)

Ethiopia got a GDP of $50 billion. That's ten percent of Greater Houston area which has a population of 6 million, and a Light Rail network of 36 km, 4 km longer then Addis Light Rail. Should have Ethiopia(a country of 90 million) instate of spending $470 million spend a few billion dollars just to have a 'proper' Mass Rapid Transit System?
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I imagine the Chinese paid for it
So Ethiopia got it for free?
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Old September 23rd, 2015, 12:28 AM   #74
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New York have a largest commuter and suburban rail network in the Americas and the one of largest network in the world.
Yes, New York, but only NY, not other US big cities.
So, for that reason, I answered to Nexis that using existing rail routes through Addis Abeba for LRT,
and building future main railway station (for intercity trains of Ethiopia) out of Addis Abeba city centre is not silly
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So you are not ok with Ethiopian Railway Corporation to outsource operation and maintenance to a contractor which actually got experience? And where you get all those ethiopian drivers? Do you think it will be economical for Shenyang Metro to pay a chinese driver ten to twenty times of what a properly trained local one would earn? (They started training the first batch of Ethiopian staff in September)

Ethiopia got a GDP of $50 billion. That's ten percent of Greater Houston area which has a population of 6 million, and a Light Rail network of 36 km, 4 km longer then Addis Light Rail. Should have Ethiopia(a country of 90 million) instate of spending $470 million spend a few billion dollars just to have a 'proper' Mass Rapid Transit System?
It is operating by Shenzhen Metro Corporation instead of Shenyang Metro
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So Ethiopia got it for free?
85% of the cost was covered by loan from China Exim Bank, 15% directly from Ethiopia. Not covered by this loan was the cost of renewing and rebuilding any roads involving the project as well as building several over and underpasses.
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It is operating by Shenzhen Metro Corporation instead of Shenyang Metro
Ur right.
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I am not one to allege that the emperor has no clothes, but this strikes me as a practical joke. The city has 5 million people and this is what they get?
What do they get? No grade-seperation on elevated tracks like it´s done in Chicago since more than 100 years of operation.
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they even got a short stretch of underground rail
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Old September 23rd, 2015, 03:07 PM   #80
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What do they get? No grade-seperation on elevated tracks like it´s done in Chicago since more than 100 years of operation.
EL in Chicago, city in one of the richest country in the world : https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...lin_Street.jpg
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