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Old May 11th, 2005, 02:10 AM   #61
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Some more photo's of the historical Lisbon Trams, I took these photo's a couple of years ago.

These are my favourite trams I have travelled on, because of their beautiful historical aspect, and also the way they traverse incredibly narrow and steep streets winding around Lisbon. In summer, with the windows wide open, you are so close to the buildings you can touch them as you go past. Truely amazing, and I hope they always keep them.







The trams are not to be confused with the funiculars also in Lisbon, which look similar.

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Old May 11th, 2005, 09:00 AM   #62
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Great pics, amasing how those little trames can go up those steep inclines.
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Old May 11th, 2005, 09:56 AM   #63
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New Croatian built trams

Only released a week or so ago. 100% built in Croatia for Zagrebs tram network ....

Pics are from our members .....



New Zagreb skyscraper (EuroTower) under construction in background ...



Additional Pics ....

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Old May 11th, 2005, 04:55 PM   #64
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can you expalin how the Padova tram works? I do not see two tracks for steel-wheel contact, just one rail. And the power is coming from above, which means that that sole rail is not for power.
It is a tram on tires produced by French Groupe LOHR; its name is TRANSLOHR

Here is a pdf with the description of the system: TRANSLOHR



Cities with Translohr

Clermont-Ferrand France



Padova Italy



Mestre (Venice) Italy



L'Aquila Italy



Sakai Japan



Info from the site of Groupe LOHR (in French)

http://www.lohr.fr/transport-public.htm

But I know in France there are other cities with this system and even other cities in Itlay (like Rimini or Jesolo) want to adopt it
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Old May 12th, 2005, 07:04 AM   #65
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Are the TRANSLOHR trains the same as the O-BAHN in Adelaide?
I know they are not Transitway like Ottawa.
If you still have to builb track I don't see the advantage. Infact you have to pave the road and track it. I don't see the draw. Also still being rubber on road I wouldn't think the ride would be as smooth.
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Old May 12th, 2005, 07:06 AM   #66
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BTW..are they only for warmer climes, they would slip on the rail, I would think, during snow/ice.
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Old May 12th, 2005, 12:41 PM   #67
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In some way they're like O-BAHN, 'cause they're hybrid vehicles with tires and rail tracks they run on
I prefer traditional tram and traditional trolleybus to these hybrid ones: they're more tested and give more assurance
Infact it seems Translohr has had a consistent number of problems in its use, and I think (but it's a supposition) it would have problems even with freezed road...

The advantage is that this kind of tracks to built (even if you have to pave the road) are cheaper than a traditional tramway one
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Old May 12th, 2005, 01:39 PM   #68
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The industrial design team that did this want to be shot... just like the styling of the Combinos, the ones above are beyond foul.

The one above looks like a pug nosed porpoise that had an accident with a fast moving wall.

Just like some of the designs are great and quite revoutionary, adding value to any vista... alternatively some are an embarrassment to the cities and governments that have chosen them.

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Old May 12th, 2005, 01:42 PM   #69
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Melbourne trams.


SW6


Z1 and W6 class trams.


three tams at Melbourne Uni.


A1 class


D and C class trams.


D class.


Two D class 5 carrage trams.

Melbourne's tram fleet consists of 489 operational trams:

SW5 3
SW6 21
W6 6
W7 11
Z1 34
Z2 3
Z3 114
A1 28
B1 2
A2 42
B2 130
C 36
D1 38
D2 21

All info and photos form http://vicsig.net/index.php?page=tra...tock&fleet=all

All these are form the current fleet. Much older ones are on that site too. more later.
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Old May 12th, 2005, 01:42 PM   #70
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very nice tram!!

i also like a lot the bilbao light rail. i just love light rails when they circule over de grass
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Old May 12th, 2005, 07:29 PM   #71
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Riga, Latvia

Tatra T3a (modernised Tatra T3SU)


Tatra T6B5


other trams:

TR1 (built in Riga, 1988, only one tram was built)


TR2 (built in Riga, 1994, only 2 trams were built)


RVR-6 (built in Riga, 1960-198x, in Riga in many modified types)
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Old May 12th, 2005, 07:41 PM   #72
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You know what I can't stand with some trams and trains in general.....advertising.
As an example Vancouver's SkyTrains look like moving billboards plastered with ads and a lot with that crap that even goes on the windows. Makes the trains, in and out, look like messy graffiti walls.
Calgary's CTrain has no advertising on them at all. The trains look so clean and crisp. They look like trains not billboards with chairs. It, like Calgary itself, are spotless.
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Old May 12th, 2005, 08:19 PM   #73
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You know what I can't stand with some trams and trains in general.....advertising.
As an example Vancouver's SkyTrains look like moving billboards plastered with ads and a lot with that crap that even goes on the windows. Makes the trains, in and out, look like messy graffiti walls.
Calgary's CTrain has no advertising on them at all. The trains look so clean and crisp. They look like trains not billboards with chairs. It, like Calgary itself, are spotless.
I agree, advertising on trains and trams looks crap

Croydon Tramlink

Normal Livery




Adverts

First Livery

more advert

an advert livery that doesnt look too bad, its discreet compared to the others and doesnt shove it in your face like the others, still..not excellent
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Old May 12th, 2005, 11:52 PM   #74
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Not as bad as some but still don't like it.
Advertising makes the trains look tacky.
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Old May 14th, 2005, 04:06 PM   #75
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Thanks to

http://park2.wakwak.com/~tram/city_a...91/91itms.html

http://www.mondotram.it/messina-giovanni/

http://www.torrese.it/messina_oggi.htm

http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/T_Messina.html
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Old May 14th, 2005, 09:45 PM   #76
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Old May 14th, 2005, 09:56 PM   #77
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Okay, here are Calcutta's trams. Technology wise, they are no great shakes. But still they retain the old world colonial era charm.



[img]http://www.**********/photos/albums/CalcuttaTrams/kolkatram.sized.jpg[/img]



There are talks that the trams maybe phased out.
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Old May 14th, 2005, 11:18 PM   #78
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Lodz (PL) Trams
New trams
Bombardier Flexity Outlook




Old trams
Konstal 805


Konstal 805 with new face



on suburban lines

Konstal 803





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Old May 15th, 2005, 01:46 AM   #79
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justme
Some more photo's of the historical Lisbon Trams, I took these photo's a couple of years ago.

These are my favourite trams I have travelled on, because of their beautiful historical aspect, and also the way they traverse incredibly narrow and steep streets winding around Lisbon. In summer, with the windows wide open, you are so close to the buildings you can touch them as you go past. Truely amazing, and I hope they always keep them.
Wow, Lisbon's trams are interesting. Some of them don't even need cables going up hills, given that age and old design, that's incredible!
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Old May 15th, 2005, 03:11 AM   #80
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cool thread

Unfortunately, Montreal does not have one, but we might get one soon
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