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Old June 9th, 2015, 07:17 PM   #141
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Hamilton light rail funding announced
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CANADA: Ontario’s Premier Kathleen Wynne announced up to C$1bn of provincial funding to cover the entire capital cost of the Hamilton light rail project on May 26. Procurement is expected to begin in 2017, for construction to start in 2019.

The planned light rail line would run from McMaster University, along King Street and Main Street through central Hamilton to Queenston Circle. There would be an interchange with the West Harbour GO commuter rail station, which is expect to open this year, and a ‘high-order pedestrian connection’ to the Hamilton Centre GO station is planned

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Old June 9th, 2015, 07:18 PM   #142
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Detroit tram order agreed
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M-1 Rail has agreed terms for Brookville Equipment Corp to supply six Liberty Modern Streetcars

USA: Detroit light rail project promoter M-1 Rail announced on June 8 that it had agreed terms with Brookville Equipment Corp for a $32m order to supply six of Liberty Modern Streetcars for the future Woodward Avenue line. The trams will use lithium-ion batteries for catenary-free operation on around 60% of the 5·3 km route as well as a short spur into the depot.

Deliveries are scheduled to begin in the fourth quarter of 2016. The three-section 70% low-floor cars will be 20·3 m long, with 32 seats and a total capacity of 125 passengers. They will be 2 650 mm wide, compared to the 2 400 mm of two similar cars which Brookville supplied to Dallas earlier this year. Four 99 kW AC traction motors will give a maximum service speed of 56 km/h

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Old July 7th, 2015, 10:24 AM   #143
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Testing begins on Sacramento LRT extension
Monday, July 06, 2015



SACRAMENTO Regional Transit District carried out the first test runs on the 6.9km southern extension of the light rail Blue Line from Meadowview Road to Cosumnes River College on June 29

Nightly testing will continue on the extension between 1700 and 0400 until commercial services begin in September.

The $US 270m extension includes three new stations Franklin, Center Parkway and Cosumnes River College. A further intermediate station is also planned at Morrison Creek, which is linked to future property development in the area
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Old July 7th, 2015, 11:19 PM   #144
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While I completely disagree with Libertarians on any issue relating to Architecture or Urban planning, let alone Streetcars, I am posting this here just to see what you guys think about the video, and what you find to be completely misleading, incorrect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpUQ_EMV23c
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Old July 8th, 2015, 07:49 PM   #145
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Transdev to operate Cincinnati Streetcar
08 Jul 2015







USA: Southwest Ohio Regional Transit Authority has selected Transdev Services Inc to operate and maintain the Cincinnati Streetcar. Announcing the decision on July 6, SORTA Chair Jason Dunn said: ‘The contract is within the budget established by the City and meets the service levels in the Federal grant applications.’ Transdev has operated the New Orleans streetcar network since 2009.

SORTA launched a request for proposals in January, and required all bidders to submit proposals for both turnkey and management contracts. The former would see all staff provided by the contractor, whereas the latter would involve the participation of SORTA staff. Transdev placed the best-value bid using both methods, said SORTA, ahead of bids from Aecom-URS Energy & Construction, First Transit, Herzog Transit Services, RATP Dev/McDonald Transit

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Old July 8th, 2015, 08:08 PM   #146
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I'm not a huge fan of the typical American implementation of the streetcar. In the United States, the modern streetcar is used to increase land values in downtown areas instead of providing improved public transportation options. Here are the major problems I find with American streetcars.

1. Poor routings. Oftentimes, streetcars in the US are loop services or operate along one-way streets leading to incoherent route patterns and decreased usability.

2. Low capacity vehicles. American streetcars are only slightly larger than the articulated buses. Streetcars that are larger, which are more commonly found in Europe, should be used to provide more capacity.

3. Infrequent services. Short distance lines should be operating less than every 7 or 8 minutes, whereas some implementations think that a 15 or 20 minute frequency is adequate. If frequencies are poor on lines that are less than a mile or two long, then there is very little reason for people to take a streetcar when they can walk or bike to their destination faster than the time it takes to wait.

4. Lack of transit-only lanes. The issues that arouse with the DC Streetcar are due to the shortsightedness of planners who used a curb side lane. Streetcar lanes should be exclusive to transit vehicles, and should be located in the median of the street. This allows for services to be operated rapidly and without obstruction.

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While I completely disagree with Libertarians on any issue relating to Architecture or Urban planning, let alone Streetcars, I am posting this here just to see what you guys think about the video, and what you find to be completely misleading, incorrect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpUQ_EMV23c
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Old July 9th, 2015, 12:22 PM   #147
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On that note, why do north American systems typically like to use those dinky three-section articulated units so much, and then proceed to chain 2-3 of them together anyway? Edinburgh's new line is 7 sections long and it's a much smaller city than many served in the US.
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Old July 9th, 2015, 03:46 PM   #148
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Because of reasons stated above: poor routing and poor priority (transit signal/right of way priority, general lack of political priority to transit). It's all done on the cheap, preventing it from really succeeding. Everything that makes the new tramway systems in France great, American systems don't do. The general thought is that the vehicles won't fill up anyway, so why bother buying longer ones. Well guess what, if you build a system that isn't as slow as thick shit (LA Metro, NJ Transit, DART, TriMet, etc.) you don't end up with a useless tourist trolley (New Orleans, Atlanta, Tampa, Charlotte, etc.)

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Old July 9th, 2015, 05:00 PM   #149
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Hey, let's stay polite here.

The relative shortness is to try to have operational flexibility. In Portland's case they are maxed out (heh) at two cars due to short city blocks. Having two cars instead of one long one enables them to cut off one half due to repairs without removing the other from service.

Charlotte has a good system, and New Orleans does exactly what its supposed to (its a heritage system).
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Old July 10th, 2015, 10:27 AM   #150
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I'm not a huge fan of the typical American implementation of the streetcar. In the United States, the modern streetcar is used to increase land values in downtown areas instead of providing improved public transportation options. Here are the major problems I find with American streetcars.

1. Poor routings. Oftentimes, streetcars in the US are loop services or operate along one-way streets leading to incoherent route patterns and decreased usability.

2. Low capacity vehicles. American streetcars are only slightly larger than the articulated buses. Streetcars that are larger, which are more commonly found in Europe, should be used to provide more capacity.

3. Infrequent services. Short distance lines should be operating less than every 7 or 8 minutes, whereas some implementations think that a 15 or 20 minute frequency is adequate. If frequencies are poor on lines that are less than a mile or two long, then there is very little reason for people to take a streetcar when they can walk or bike to their destination faster than the time it takes to wait.

4. Lack of transit-only lanes. The issues that arouse with the DC Streetcar are due to the shortsightedness of planners who used a curb side lane. Streetcar lanes should be exclusive to transit vehicles, and should be located in the median of the street. This allows for services to be operated rapidly and without obstruction.
...most of these improvements turn streetcars into light rail.

I agree, btw. Most American streetcars have little to no real transportation value to them. I suspect part of it is because the planners don't have the cojones to turn two traffic lanes into a dedicated ROW.
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Old July 10th, 2015, 06:18 PM   #151
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...most of these improvements turn streetcars into light rail.
Which is why the US should get rid of this fabricated streetcar OR light rail dichotomy.

Just call it a tram and give it it's own place on the road, right of way, etc., wherever you can, and have them share the road only if there's no other viable alternative.
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Old July 15th, 2015, 12:05 PM   #152
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Charlotte opens its first streetcar service in 77 years
July 14, 2015

CHARLOTTE, N.C. (Reuters) - Charlotte, one of the fastest-growing cities in the U.S. South, launched its first streetcar service in 77 years on Tuesday, joining a host of American cities that hope to boost economic growth with new versions of an old mode of public transit.

Riders began using Charlotte’s CityLYNX Gold Line at 1 p.m., a few hours after a ribbon-cutting ceremony at the North Carolina city’s downtown transit center.

U.S. Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx, a former Charlotte mayor, said he expects business owners and developers to invest along the route

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Old July 17th, 2015, 01:10 PM   #153
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Traditionally I suppose streetcars run on streets along with traffic while LRT is grade separated, though I think streetcars and LRT is more or less interchangeable these days. They run more or less on the same tech and vehicles if I'm not mistaken. And no, I don't think the length of the vehicles tell the difference between streetcars and LRT, that's more about capacity. Around the world there's streetcars/trams of differing lengths running on the same network.

Take a look at Melbourne's route 96 for example. Runs around city streets for about half its length before getting its own dedicated corridor (at around the 41 minute mark in video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POzqFlAzJGc

But if you're taking subways vs LRT then there's a world of technical differences there, don't think that's too hard to figure out.

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• Subways get their power from an electrified rail below the train – this requires larger stations, more infrastructure and safety separation. An LRV gets its power from a cable over head, like a streetcar.
Not all subways use third rail electrification, nor do they have to. Hong Kong's MTR for one uses overhead cables.
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Old July 17th, 2015, 02:57 PM   #154
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Yeah well Americans with their names and definitions hahaha

Mostly they call everything that runs on rail TRAIN!

Streetcar, LRT or whatsoever has an official name when invented and is called TRAMWAY.

Now you can put Tramway to run on its separate lane or in mixed traffic or both, it wont become another mode of transportation with a different name, its still gonna be TRAMWAY..


We do not call cars citycar when they run in city streets and do not rename them when they run on Highways.


Why are you inventing such stupid names like trolley (for a tram), trackless trolley(for an official name Trolleybus), streetcar (what a dumb name)

Some can call everything that runs on the street a streetcar.
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Old July 17th, 2015, 10:19 PM   #155
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IMO, Streetcars vs. Trams is just like Soccer vs. Football...
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Who cares what the exact definition is since many systems are a blend of the two. Sometimes a line shares the road with general traffic and sometimes it doesn't. And where do trams fit in this?
But I have to say that I really dislike the term streetcar. It reminds me of the first half of the last century and the public transport from back then dragged to the 21st century
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Old July 17th, 2015, 11:26 PM   #157
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Just about every point he made was nonsense and easily refuted by MrAronymous (thank you).

I think he registered just to troll.
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