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Old June 28th, 2005, 04:18 AM   #1
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Why do people not like monorails?

Seattle's uh, debate over the proposed monorail they are trying to build in that city has ignited some interesting debates over monorails. It seems there are a lot of people out there who do not like the idea of a monorail. When I ask why, People only seem to respond that they are not legitimate transportation systems.

Can someone give me a better idea what it is that people dislike so much about monorails?
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Old June 28th, 2005, 05:42 AM   #2
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Ai Cloudship, Monorail hasa poor riding quality ...
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Old June 28th, 2005, 06:11 AM   #3
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Ai Cloudship, Monorail hasa poor riding quality ...
The monorail systems built by Hitachi are reported to have excellent riding quality.
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Old June 28th, 2005, 06:14 AM   #4
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Maybe the ones in Japan have that ride quality. I've never heard of a smooth-riding monorail in the US. Maybe it is such that to the layman, monorail has the appeal of nonconformism, something unique and cool-looking that not many cities or countries have.

That's just about all that monorail has to offer here in the States.
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Old June 28th, 2005, 06:27 AM   #5
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Low capacity...
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Old June 28th, 2005, 06:39 AM   #6
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Hmmm, the old monorail here in Seattle, it is kinda bumpy because of the concentre beams have gaps between one other where the pillars are supported.
I don't know about the ride quality of the monorail in Las Vegas.
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Old June 28th, 2005, 06:41 AM   #7
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IMO, they are kind of cheating transport systems, not legitimate to use one rail when you can use 2, only for aesthetical reasons.
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Old June 28th, 2005, 07:13 AM   #8
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In my opinion I think Monorails just look ugly. I guess it reminds me more of a Disney Land type of thing rather than a really commuting option. I just like the idea of rail transportion better. Switching tracks seems like it would be easier and faster than monorail.
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Old June 28th, 2005, 08:04 AM   #9
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The monorail in Las Vegas imo is ok at best. Not high enough capacity and it is not very comfortable. Also there are so many better alternatives to monorail.
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Old June 28th, 2005, 08:09 AM   #10
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I don't like monorails, they remind of the Disneyland one (that btw is getting quite neglected). I saw the Vegas monorail, but it looked limited to certain areas of casinos. The main problem with monorails is capacity (and perhaps speed).
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Old June 28th, 2005, 08:10 AM   #11
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Some monorail are pretty expensive so its $3 in Las Vegas for one trip (no fare zone)
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Old June 28th, 2005, 09:56 AM   #12
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it's actually cheaper than riding the taxi around the strip, the monorail is much faster than the cars during a severe rush hour. The monorail in Seattle is $1.50 one way, $3 round trip. It is $1.50 round trip for deaf/disabled riders.
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Old June 28th, 2005, 10:08 AM   #13
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Monorail should be the same price as the underground. In fact, it's cheaper, isnt'? anyway, I love monorails.
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Old June 28th, 2005, 10:08 AM   #14
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it's actually cheaper than riding the taxi around the strip, the monorail is much faster than the cars during a severe rush hour. The monorail in Seattle is $1.50 one way, $3 round trip. It is $1.50 round trip for deaf/disabled riders.
$1.50 for deaf people?

I think it's only for people that cannot walk.
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Old June 28th, 2005, 10:14 AM   #15
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$1.50 for deaf people?

I think it's only for people that cannot walk.
Don't forget that deaf and handicapped people do get discounts for bus passes, too.

Deaf people is in disabled category, so we get discounts time to time. Deaf cannot communicate with hearing people directly, though some can and some can't, we have to understand thru sign language or writing on tablet paper. Deaf people have harder time finding jobs in general, there's lot of discrimination. If you were deaf, you would understand it much better.
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Old June 28th, 2005, 10:19 AM   #16
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Don't forget that deaf and handicapped people do get discounts for bus passes, too.

Deaf people is in disabled category, so we get discounts time to time. Deaf cannot communicate with hearing people directly, though some can and some can't, we have to understand thru sign language or writing on tablet paper. Deaf people have harder time finding jobs in general, there's lot of discrimination. If you were deaf, you would understand it much better.
I agree, I have hard time to find summer job.

Is it's any deaf pride with "Anti-Discrimination"?
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Old June 28th, 2005, 10:22 AM   #17
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I agree, I have hard time to find summer job.

Is it's any deaf pride with "Anti-Discrimination"?
Hardly there is deaf pride with no discrimination problems. I believe discrimination is almost everywhere. Lot of hearing people think deaf cannot do anything like hearing people can do, we sure can do lot of things. They just need an education to get better knowledge about deaf people that CAN do it at workplace, there are many devices avialable that enables deaf people to communicate at the workplace.

back to the monorail subject (sorry got off point)
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Old June 28th, 2005, 10:25 AM   #18
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Sometimes, I wonder why Japan and Asia region is so crazy of monorails, while monorails in the US and Canada isn't popular. There may be a good reason for them. I guess we're spoiled about ride quality.
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Old June 28th, 2005, 10:26 AM   #19
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I quite like monorails, but I can see why many others don't. They do seem to have more disadvantages than possitives.

* They usually have far less capacity than cheaper modes of transport, and certainly less that an underground metro

* To look attractive, they have to be a single track monorails, double tracks when in a dense urban area just block out far too much light and sky from city scapes. The problem with single track is that they are either only going in one direction, or even less capacity by sharing tracks.

* Monorails are generally slower than a proper metro.

* Monorails do cost more than anything other than a metro

On positives, a monorail can be a nice tourist gimick, especially if it is a single track, and of quality design.
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Old June 28th, 2005, 10:33 AM   #20
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I like monorails. I'm satisfied with the one in KL. It has high capacity(wider than the Bombardier LRTs), faster than LRTs and can tilt and handle meanders well. It's a bit noisy but still less noisy than heavy rail.
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