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Old February 14th, 2016, 02:40 PM   #101
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I would love to see this development, especially that I am fond of long-haul journeys.
Yes but Air Serbia is not paying its bills in full which means this route development is not really sustainable.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=1225

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The Serbian government has asked the Belgrade airport to forgive local carrier Air Serbia a debt of more than US$ 22 million, according to the Serbian Crime and Corruption Reporting Netork (KRIK). The debt constitutes all payments owed by the carrier to the airport for a one year period meaning the airline essentially used the airport for free for one year.

zairserbiaKRIK reports that on December 30 the Serbian government decided to help Air Serbia – which is half-owned by Etihad, a major, wealthy Middle Eastern carrier based in the United Arab Emirates. Air-Serbia owes more than 2,3 Serbian Dinars (US$ 22 million) to the Belgrade airport Nikola Tesla.

On January 18, KRIK published a government decision which waives the debt Air Serbia accumulated towards the Nikola Tesla airport between October 1, 2014, and September 18, 2015.
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Old February 14th, 2016, 07:03 PM   #102
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Eh, long-haul flights may be expensive to maintain, yes. But, if you attract more passengers to go through the Belgrade hub, it can mean even more revenue for the airline (especially if you time it right) and can attract a lot of transfers on either end. Perhaps the Serbian departure may be a bit too early for flights from around Europe (but could be just right from places like Istanbul, Moscow, etc), but the New York arrival and departure times are perfect for multiple journeys throughout the Americas and Canada.

Of course, so many airlines are in debt; it does not mean, however, that such flights may remain unprofitable for a long time. That's why you provide enhancements on such flights (e.g. full lie flat seats, personal TVs, better food, duty free, etc) so that you can raise even more revenue for the airline, which, in turn, could make the airline slightly profitable.

Why not look at what Philippine Airlines is doing that continues to post modest profits despite having a larger long-haul network?
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Old February 14th, 2016, 11:48 PM   #103
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For some reason, Airline Route listed that flight by Air Serbia as a daily service... and it looks like the airline is resuming its long-haul services after quite a long hiatus. While the launch date has not yet been set, Airline Route reported that it will begin some time during the second half of 2016.

JU500 BEG0730 – 1200JFK 330 D
JU501 JFK1440 – 0530+1BEG 330 D

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I would love to see this development, especially that I am fond of long-haul journeys.
AirlineRoute accidentally picked up on Air Serbia testing the system by loading the route temporarily for a bit. it should still be 5 weeks with a split schedule, as we have known for some time already.
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Old February 15th, 2016, 12:09 AM   #104
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What's the original schedule like?
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Old February 17th, 2016, 04:25 PM   #105
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Yes but Air Serbia is not paying its bills in full which means this route development is not really sustainable.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=1225
Air Serbia is growing as we speak. Sooner or later, they will need the widebody fleet to feed Abu Dhabi along with their new North American network.
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Old February 18th, 2016, 08:36 PM   #106
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What's the original schedule like?
Here is the final schedule:
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Air Serbia launches five weekly flights to New York:

Flight number: JU500
Departure city: BEG
Departure time: 07.30 (12-4---), 12.55 (----56-)
Arrival time: 12.00 (12-4---), 17.25 (----56-)
Arrival city: JFK
Aircraft type: A330-200
Day operating: 12-456-

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Flight number: JU501
Departure city: JFK
Departure time: 14.40 (12-4---), 19.30 (----56-)
Arrival time: 05.30 (-23-5--), 10.20 (-----67)
Arrival city: BEG
Aircraft type: A330-200
Day operating: 12-456-
http://www.exyuaviation.com/p/air-se...-new-york.html
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Old February 18th, 2016, 09:05 PM   #107
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Saw that on Airline Route too. What's the seating configuration of JU's A332 (J and Y)? And what features do we expect on board (e.g. IFE, WiFi)?
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Old February 19th, 2016, 12:50 AM   #108
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And what features do we expect on board (e.g. IFE, WiFi)?
http://www.exyuaviation.com/2016/02/...ket-sales.html
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Old February 19th, 2016, 01:06 AM   #109
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Seats will look something like this

Business class cabin includes leather upholstered fully flat beds, with a 63.5 inch length, dine on demand service with a range of a la carte meals made from Serbian produce, turn down service, inflight entertainment with the latest Hollywood movies, TV shows and a broad range of Serbian and international films and a generous baggage policy of 2 X 32 kilograms complimentary pieces of checked luggage.



Economy class cabin includes three meal options, including traditional Serbian dish, inflight entertainment including the latest Hollywood movies, TV shows and a broad range of Serbian and international films and a generous baggage policy of 2 X 23 kilograms complimentary pieces of checked luggage.



First tickets were sold today, flights begin in June, 5 times a week, other 2 will be through Air Berlin



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Old February 19th, 2016, 01:17 AM   #110
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Saw that on the website, and it looks wonderful. And it seems like, in this case, with J18 and Y238, the seating layout could be either:

J class: 1-1-1 or 1-2-1
Y class: 2-3-2 or 2-4-2

Tell me which of those are found with JU's A332.
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2-4-2 in economy and 1-1-1 in business
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Old February 22nd, 2016, 04:45 PM   #112
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2-3-2 on a A330 would be a bit too generous for today's industry standards.
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Old February 23rd, 2016, 04:30 AM   #113
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2-3-2 on a A330 would be a bit too generous for today's industry standards.
That would be much better than having 3-3-3 on Y, wouldn't it? I mean, the trend for Y nowadays includes:

- 2-4-2
- 3-3-3
- 3-4-3

I mean, a 3-4-3 seating configuration makes me feel cramped in an otherwise large aircraft.
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Nobody does 3-3-3 on A330s except for charter airlines. 2-4-2 is the absolute standard.
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Yeah 3-3-3 is already a "slave-ship" on a A330.... That's what LOT Polish got on their B787 fleet.
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That would be much better than having 3-3-3 on Y, wouldn't it? I mean, the trend for Y nowadays includes:

- 2-4-2
- 3-3-3
- 3-4-3

I mean, a 3-4-3 seating configuration makes me feel cramped in an otherwise large aircraft.
The yields would have to be much higher to make that work. Right? I would say that Air Serbia is testing the market in the best possible configuration.
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For some reason, Airline Route listed that flight by Air Serbia as a daily service... and it looks like the airline is resuming its long-haul services after quite a long hiatus. While the launch date has not yet been set, Airline Route reported that it will begin some time during the second half of 2016.

JU500 BEG0730 – 1200JFK 330 D
JU501 JFK1440 – 0530+1BEG 330 D

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I would love to see this development, especially that I am fond of long-haul journeys.
The funny thing is they are using the same flight numbers from JU's glory days. That's a nice touch if you ask me. The times fly by, but the legacy stays there! I can't wait to hop in my car and go check them out in June.
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Yeah 3-3-3 is already a "slave-ship" on a A330.... That's what LOT Polish got on their B787 fleet.
Except that the 787 is a bit wider than the A330.
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Air Serbia 1 A330-200 To be leased from Indian Airline Jet Airways https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_Airways, arriving in May 2016 to Start service to New York https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Serbia
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2016 March Update

Air Serbia will launch LED, OHD and KBP. OHD is expected to be a seasonal destination. Air Serbia is striving to serve 3 million passengers in 2016.


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