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Old June 23rd, 2016, 06:44 PM   #161
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Air Serbia (ASL) has landed in NY (JFK). Well Done you made history Air Serbia!

But let all think about the next potential destination for ASL. My guess is Beijing or Toronto
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Welcome back to the US! Looks like the JFK-BEG service will go well with those operated by LOT, SAS, Ukraine International, and other European carriers. Now I hope it won't scare the likes of TK, EK, and SU who want connecting passengers...
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Old June 24th, 2016, 09:03 AM   #165
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Welcome back to the US! Looks like the JFK-BEG service will go well with those operated by LOT, SAS, Ukraine International, and other European carriers. Now I hope it won't scare the likes of TK, EK, and SU who want connecting passengers...
I suspect that TK will always do well on American routes due to large Persian community in the states. The similar can be said for EK an SU, give or take some different markets.
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Old June 24th, 2016, 09:33 PM   #166
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any interior pictures of A330-200 Air Serbia ?
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Old June 24th, 2016, 09:45 PM   #167
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any interior pictures of A330-200 Air Serbia ?
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Is it true that ASL going for a second wide-body? in 2017 summer season?
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Is it true that ASL going for a second wide-body? in 2017 summer season?
That's the idea if we are to go by what Sinisa Mali has hinted at. Likely that the second wide-body would be used for PEK and YYZ.
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Old June 26th, 2016, 10:34 AM   #171
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That's the idea if we are to go by what Sinisa Mali has hinted at. Likely that the second wide-body would be used for PEK and YYZ.
Hopefully PEK because YYZ can connect with JFK but Airserbia needs to code-share an American airline and Canadian airline
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Hopefully PEK because YYZ can connect with JFK but Airserbia needs to code-share an American airline and Canadian airline
I think PEK is a better bet for JU. Canada is the country where anti-Serbian propaganda is still very popular. They always pop up with some TV documentary where the Serbs are the only bad guys in the Balkans. On the flipside Chinese are putting the cash where their mouth is.
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I think PEK is a better bet for JU. Canada is the country where anti-Serbian propaganda is still very popular. They always pop up with some TV documentary where the Serbs are the only bad guys in the Balkans. On the flipside Chinese are putting the cash where their mouth is.
Politics aside, I believe the economics justify a route to PEK or PVG. These flights used to be relatively full back in 2000, when Chinese investment was minimal. Would be much more successful now given the number of outbound travellers from China and Chinese investments in the Balkans.

Worth noting that JU should expand to IKA as sanctions are gradually lifted.
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Old June 27th, 2016, 04:03 PM   #174
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Yes Delta, American and United be afraid, very afraid


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This Airbus jet just arrived in New York — and it's Delta, American, and United's biggest fear

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(An Air Serbia Airbus A330-200 at New York JFK International Airport.AP)
On Thursday, an Air Serbia Airbus A330-200 landed at New York's JFK International Airport. It was the first time the Serbian capital of Belgrade has had direct air service to New York City in 24 years.
The arrival of this Serbian Airbus embodies US-based airlines' worst fears over the continued growth of the Middle East's three mega carriers.

For years, the US-based airlines American, Delta, and United have accused the Middle Eastern carriers Emirates, Etihad, and Qatar of benefiting from more than $42 billion in illegal subsidies.

It's an accusation that the CEOs of the ME3 have consistently rebutted. Emirates, Etihad, and Qatar all point to their audited financial statements as proof of their profitability as businesses.

But what does Serbia's national airline have to do with the Persian Gulf's mega carriers?

Air Serbia — along with Air Berlin, Virgin Australia, Jet Airways, Air Seychelles, Etihad Regional, and Alitalia — make up Etihad's equity partnership network. That means that Etihad, based in the United Arab Emirates' capital, Abu Dhabi, owns up to 49% of each airline.

According to Air Serbia CEO Dane Kondic, Etihad doesn't participate in the day-to-day operations of his airline, but it does make its presence felt.

"What they do do is play the role of an enabler," he said.


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Kondic believes his airline's landmark flight to New York is a great example of how the partnership has been a benefit to his company.

The Airbus A330 used for the route was leased from Jet Airways, while the Air Serbia pilots were trained in Italy by Alitalia. At the same time, Etihad provided Air Serbia with ground staff in the US as well as training for its cabin crew.
Though highly complimentary of US airlines, Etihad Aviation Group CEO James Hogan was quick to point out a key advantage his airline has over American competitors.

"Although (US Carriers) form the backbone of the three global airline alliances, what we've done and they haven't done is decrease operating complexity across the partnership airlines," Hogan told Business Insider.

Hogan said Air Berlin, Alitalia, and others in the partnership were looking to share everything from fleets to computer systems to training. The airlines are even looking to streamline the interior layouts of their aircraft so planes can easily be shifted between different fleets depending on demand.

This is the type of synergy that allows an airline like Air Serbia to expand into the US market.


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"A small impoverished airline such as ours would never in a million years be able to fly across the Atlantic if it wasn't for us being a part of this group of like-minded airlines coming together as Etihad Airways partners," Kondic said.
Kondic is right. On its own, with a fleet of 21 aircraft, three-year-old Air Serbia would not be capable of operating trans-Atlantic service.

But with the assistance of its partners, Air Serbia has managed to build an unexpected air bridge between Belgrade and New York.

On a larger scale, Etihad's partnership network represents the next evolution of the Emirati carrier's global expansion.

Growth through these partnerships allows Etihad to increase the airline's reach organically. And with the governments of Serbia and Italy writing off the old debt of their national airlines ahead of Etihad's entry, the company is able to focus on building for the future instead of worrying about the past.

Instead of forcing its way into markets outside its traditional area of operation, such as Emirates' route between Milan and New York, Etihad can use its partnership method to expand while turning potentially adversarial governments into stakeholders.

After all, it's easy for both the Americans and the Italians to make a big fuss about Emirates' Milan route. But Etihad's Alitalia service would be beyond reproach.


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US airlines simply aren't in a position to protest the Italian national airline's operation out of Rome or the Serbian national airline's operation out of Belgrade.
Etihad doesn't have to expand further into US or European market on its own. It has a German, a Swiss, an Italian, and a Serbian airline to do it by proxy.

With Etihad's equity partnership hitting its stride, further encroachment into the US carriers' prized trans-Atlantic business is bound to continue.

And there isn't anything the airline's US critics can do about it.

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Air Serbia to take A320neo delivery in H2 2018


Air Serbia's CEO, Dane Kondić, has announced that the carrier will welcome its first of ten ordered Airbus A320neo aircraft in the second half of 2018, with which the airline plans to boost frequencies across its network. Speaking to the "Airways Magazine", Mr Kondić noted that the new aircraft, which will have the capacity to seat up to 165 passengers in a two-class configuration, will give the carrier "more flexibility". "We started the airline with a vision of exiting the broken and old fleet that we inherited. We are moving to a newer generation of Airbus A320neos. These will start entering our fleet in the second half of 2018. Based on where we’re located, there are good opportunities for us, and having a new aircraft is a big part of that", Mr Kondić said.

Air Serbia will take delivery of all ten jets by 2020. Commenting on the aircraft order, Mr Kondić previously said, "The new fleet of A320neo aircraft are a key part of our strategy with which we intend to redefine our position on the market, with the most modern and comfortable single-aisle aircraft. As we expand our destination network throughout Europe, we will set new standards with the A320neo both in comfort and quality of service". He added, "It is the best option from the A320 family of aircraft and features new engines as well as sharklet technology, allowing added efficiency”. The only other carrier in the former Yugoslavia to have ordered the type is Croatia Airlines, which will take delivery of four jets from 2021.

Mr Kondić notes that Air Serbia already serves all of its main markets in Europe and will therefore focus on adding more departures to existing destinations. "We serve 43 destination in Europe and the Mediterranean, and that’s a good start for our network. We carried 2.6 million people last year, compared to 1.3 million before 2013. With many of the destinations that we fly today, we want to add frequencies. We don’t see a lot more opportunity for new destinations, because our network in Europe is set", the CEO said. Commenting on the carrier's recently launched transatlantic operations, he added, "We’re a boutique airline that doesn’t have fifty aircraft flying across the Atlantic. That’s not our goal. We’re here to provide an alternative. We know we’re punching above our weight against bigger carriers. We’re not afraid of competition because we genuinely believe that we have something good to offer".

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Politics aside, I believe the economics justify a route to PEK or PVG. These flights used to be relatively full back in 2000, when Chinese investment was minimal. Would be much more successful now given the number of outbound travellers from China and Chinese investments in the Balkans.

Worth noting that JU should expand to IKA as sanctions are gradually lifted.

I am just being realistic. JU waS not allowed to serve Canada for the political reasons. So what has changed? Canadians are probably hoping that JU may buy their CS or Q400s.......

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PEK and another A330 for JU?

Air Serbia to expand China reach

Air Serbia's CEO, Dane Kondić, has said that China will play an important role in the airline's continued expansion, noting that the market represents a critical step in the company's growth in Asia. It comes after the carrier appointed a general sales agent (GSA) for China with the aim of boosting its awareness on the market and promoting it as the airline of choice for the Balkans. Several months ago, Serbia's Prime Minister, Aleksandar Vučić, noted that Air Serbia will most likely launch Beijing as its second long haul destination after New York, although the carrier has never endorsed these claims. More recently, the Serbian government noted it was negotiating with a Chinese carrier over potential services between the two countries, which are to commence in 2017.

Mao Jun, Air Serbia's consultant in China, says, "We are very excited that Air Serbia is re-entering the China market. China and Serbia are old friends. Together with CITS Air Service Company Limited, we will reintroduce Belgrade as an affordable and convenient gateway to Europe, and build greater awareness of Air Serbia as the airline of choice to the Balkan Peninsula and southeastern Europe for Chinese travellers". CEO Kondić adds, "China is not only important to the continued expansion of Air Serbia, but also important to the development of Serbia and the Balkans region. Our appointment of Air CITS as the China GSA is a critical step in Air Serbia’s expansion in Asia".


Air Serbia currently codeshares with Air China on its flight between Beijing and Vienna. Furthermore, Air Serbia also has special prorate agreements (SPA) on all of Etihad Airways' flights out of China, as well as SPA’s with China Southern, Xiamen Airlines and Hainan Airlines. The last time a Chinese carrier operated services to Belgrade was prior to the collapse of the former Yugoslavia. Flights were initially launched from Beijing in 1978 by Air China’s predecessor CAAC and were operated with a Boeing 707 via Karachi (and for a short period of time via Tehran). Later on, services were introduced from Urumqi via Budapest. On the other hand, JAT Yugoslav Airlines launched Beijing in 1979 and operated its final flight to the the city in late 2000.

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Air Serbia plans Tehran service by mid-2017

Air Serbia is considering introducing flights between Belgrade and the Iranian capital Tehran next summer season. The news comes after company officials visited the country and discussed the potential service with local regulators. Air Serbia's CEO, Dane Kondić, said, "Today's talks went well. Introducing these flights during the upcoming winter season is not possible, but they are likely next summer. Following the lifting of international sanctions, carriers from across the world have started operating from Tehran. If we do introduce Belgrade - Tehran flights, Air Serbia will have to fly in partnership with Iran Air". Mr Kondić added there will be surprises in the upcoming winter schedule, which comes into effect on October 30, and will feature "one or two new routes". The carrier previously confirmed it will extend its seasonal summer services to Hamburg and Larnaca into the winter months.

The Chairman of the Air Serbia Supervisory Board, Siniša Mali, noted, "We will undertake a feasibility study and hold talks with Iran Air over potential expenses on the route. I firmly believe that it is very important for direct flights to be introduced in order to fuel cooperation between Serbia and Iran. With the introduction of our flights to New York, we have observed a considerable number of people from the United States travelling to this region and Belgrade, and from there on to other countries". Mr Mali added that a direct air link to Tehran will make sense if Air Serbia launches flights to Beijing in the coming period. Last week, the company said both Asia and China will feature prominently in its future growth plans.

JAT Yugoslav Airlines previously operated flights between Belgrade and Tehran. The service was introduced on April 19, 1991 and the airline also opened its representative office in the city. The route was popular with a considerable number of transfer passengers to the United States at the time. However, the service was short-lived with the collapse of Yugoslavia halting all international operations. Earlier this year, Iran's largest tour operator announced plans to charter fourteen flights between Tehran and Belgrade, which were to carry some 3.000 Iranian tourists to the Serbian capital during a three-month period. However, the flights never took off due to administrative reasons. The tour operator previously said it plans to set up its south-east European base in Belgrade and estimates bringing some 10.000 Iranian holiday makers to Serbia next year.


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Old September 16th, 2016, 03:03 PM   #180
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Air Serbia small company is expanding pretty fast at it level
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