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Old May 25th, 2014, 03:35 AM   #1
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DALLAS | Pacific Plaza Development | 305m+ | 1000ft+ | 70 fl x 2| Pro

For $600 million, developer proposes garage, ‘fancy’ grocery and two 70-story residential towers for Pacific Plaza

http://cityhallblog.dallasnews.com/2...ic-plaza.html/

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Turkish developer Mukemmel “Mike” Sarimsakci, who’s overseeing the redo of 211 N. Ervay, is behind a second Pacific Plaza that would include underground parking (with room enough for about 1,855 cars, plus or minus a bunch), two residential skyscrapers at least 70 stories tall and high-end retail with a grocery store imported from Eatly. There would also be a park, of course, though city officials say they’re concerned Sarimsakci’s proposal eats into the hoped-for green space.
Park Board split over whether Dallas or a developer should pay for ‘top priority’ Pacific Plaza in downtown


http://cityhallblog.dallasnews.com/2...ic-plaza.html/

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There are, for now, three proposals to develop the long-proposed three-acre Pacific Plaza park on what’s currently a 300-or-so spot downtown Dallas parking lot bound by North St. Paul, Live Oak and North Harwood streets. Developer Shawn Todd has a $100-million plan that includes a sprawling eight-level parking structure stretching over Pacific Avenue. Mukemmel “Mike” Sarimsakci’s $600-million proposal calls for planting two massive towers on the proposed park. And former Dallas City Council member Ron Natinsky wants to bury a mechanical parking garage beneath the park, at a price tag not yet made public.
Renderings of the proposed buildings on the left side of picture
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Old May 25th, 2014, 05:07 AM   #2
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Awesome!
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Old May 25th, 2014, 05:43 AM   #3
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How do you think the proposed twin towers look architecturally?

BTW HOK is the firm that designed the buildings.
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Old May 25th, 2014, 05:48 AM   #4
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Well they are certainly NOT twins by those renderings....but hope the big D can join the supertall club...
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Well they are certainly NOT twins by those renderings....but hope the big D can join the supertall club...
Well.....fraternal twins
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Old May 25th, 2014, 05:54 AM   #6
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Preliminary designs on the link below



http://www.scribd.com/doc/222720476/...Plaza-Proposal
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Old May 25th, 2014, 05:58 AM   #7
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Well it's great to see something this big being proposed in Dallas. They look good they aren't crazy and they aren't bland either.
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Old May 25th, 2014, 07:19 AM   #8
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The design doesn't fit Dallas but I'm glad Dallas is now on the list of cities with potential supertalls!

Cities with Supertalls Proposed or Completed in North America
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Atlanta 1?
Boston 1 (considered stale)
Chicago ~10
Dallas 2?
Houston 2
Los Angeles 2
Miami 3?
Monterrey 1
New York ~30
Panama City 1
Philadelphia 1
San Francisco 1
Seattle
Toronto 2? (considered stale)

So of the Big 12 in the US, we'd only be missing Detroit and Washington (and both would be incredibly unlikely)
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Seattle and Philadelphia might end up with one and I'm sure there will be more proposals for Miami in the next decade. Good to hear that there are plans to build tall in Texas because, well you know.
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Old May 25th, 2014, 07:43 AM   #10
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Nice! I hope these will be 300 meters high but regardless, they will be a striking addition to the city's skyline!
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OHHH! Excited for Dallas, went there when I was really young like middle school or something. Loved that city!!!!
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Old May 25th, 2014, 09:29 PM   #12
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residential and 300m will be a close call, but with the sky gardens in between and the fact that a lot of residential buildings in new york seem to get a tall floor height, this might also be true for dallas. we will see. designs are nice and simple and i like them.
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residential and 300m will be a close call, but with the sky gardens in between and the fact that a lot of residential buildings in new york seem to get a tall floor height, this might also be true for dallas. we will see. designs are nice and simple and i like them.
True, they did say "At least 70 stories" though in the article, still not sure they will really be supertall but still a great project nonetheless.

You figure it wouldn't be hard to break the 921' Bank Plaza there for a new tallest so this project will likely do so.
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True, they did say "At least 70 stories" though in the article, still not sure they will really be supertall but still a great project nonetheless.

You figure it wouldn't be hard to break the 921' Bank Plaza there for a new tallest so this project will likely do so.
When news first came about about the project, the developer said it will be the tallest concrete structure west of the Mississippi River.
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When news first came about about the project, the developer said it will be the tallest concrete structure west of the Mississippi River.
Nice, but what's the current tallest concrete structure west of the Mississippi?
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Nice, but what's the current tallest concrete structure west of the Mississippi?
The Stratosphere in Las Vegas, which is 1,149 ft.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 07:23 AM   #17
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The Stratosphere in Las Vegas, which is 1,149 ft.
He probably meant not counting the antenna then because I really doubt it will be that high.

Hope I'm wrong though.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 08:37 AM   #18
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Love Dallas, any news on when they will pick a plan ?
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Old May 27th, 2014, 09:32 AM   #19
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Another supertall!!
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The design doesn't fit Dallas but I'm glad Dallas is now on the list of cities with potential supertalls!

Cities with Supertalls Proposed or Completed in North America
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Atlanta 1?
Boston 1 (considered stale)
Chicago ~10
Dallas 2?
Houston 2
Los Angeles 2
Miami 3?
Monterrey 1
New York ~30
Panama City 1
Philadelphia 1
San Francisco 1
Seattle
Toronto 2? (considered stale)

So of the Big 12 in the US, we'd only be missing Detroit and Washington (and both would be incredibly unlikely)
You forgot San Diego... but very unlikely to see a supertall there...
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Not really interesting, but good for Dallas.
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