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Old January 14th, 2014, 12:02 AM   #581
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Old January 14th, 2014, 02:22 AM   #582
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I went to Sao Paulo last year and believe me, it has nothing of spectacular or exciting. Either Mexico City or Buenos Aires or even Rio are way more spectacular.

First of all, Sao Paulo is only bunch of ugly 1970's outdated buildings and no interesting neighborhoods, nothing like Polanco or Puerto Madero, there is nothing like Chapulpepec's woods in Mexico City, and nothing like the museums of Mexico City, nor its history, arts, squares, monuments. Even Paulista Ave. in comparison with Reforma Ave. is a joke.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 02:55 AM   #583
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I can't believe you, because I already went to São Paulo many times, and it's definitely interesting. São Paulo is full of museums, modern buildings, squares, urban parks, historic buildings, malls, a vibrant night life and just a few miles from paradisiacal beaches.

You probably didn't walk enough in the city. Here's a thread showing what is the real São Paulo, without stereotypes, just what's real:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1634203

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So Buenos Aires is bigger than Mexico City? I think I had read that somewhere else.
Yeah, both São Paulo and Buenos Aires are bigger (urban area).
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Old January 14th, 2014, 03:01 AM   #584
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did you already went to Mexico City or Buenos Aires? cause if not, there is nothing to talk about, nor base of mutual comparison.

btw links to amazing pics of every city in the world are all over.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 03:07 AM   #585
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Sao Paulo's problem is that it was never the historical, cultural, artistic, political or social hub of Brazil until very recently. All it had was economic might and, let's be honest, economic might can sometimes lead to messy, ugly cities. If I went to Brazil, I'd probably visit Rio de Janeiro, Parati, Balneario Camboriu and Salvador. I would probably skip Sao Paulo. Not because it's ugly but because's it's intimidating and there's better places to see than maneuvering yourself though a city of 20,000,000 for an occasional gem.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 03:09 AM   #587
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So Buenos Aires is bigger than Mexico City? I think I had read that somewhere else.
Mexico City is in a valley so growth is limited. Buenos Aires can expand for another 500km if it wanted to and not have very many topographical limitations.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 03:16 AM   #588
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did you already went to Mexico City or Buenos Aires? cause if not, there is nothing to talk about, nor base of mutual comparison.

btw links to amazing pics of every city in the world are all over.
Buenos Aires yes. It's absolutely phenomenal. I love BA!

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Sao Paulo's problem is that it was never the historical, cultural, artistic, political or social hub of Brazil until very recently. All it had was economic might and, let's be honest, economic might can sometimes lead to messy, ugly cities. If I went to Brazil, I'd probably visit Rio de Janeiro, Parati, Balneario Camboriu and Salvador. I would probably skip Sao Paulo. Not because it's ugly but because's it's intimidating and there's better places to see than maneuvering yourself though a city of 20,000,000 for an occasional gem.
Basing in the way that you say. I also would say that if I went to Mexico, probably I wouldn't go to Mexico City, there are more interesting places, like Cancún, Guanajuato, Morelia and the maya ruins.

The problem of São Paulo is not the lack of interesting places, the real problem is that is unknown in the world and many times is overshadowed for being close to Rio. São Paulo is one of the most cosmopolitan cities of the world in the same level of NY and London.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 04:39 AM   #589
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WTF? Read my comment again. I mean in the same level, for being as cosmopolitan as NY and London.
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Buenos Aires yes. It's absolutely phenomenal. I love BA!



Basing in the way that you say. I also would say that if I went to Mexico, probably I wouldn't go to Mexico City, there are more interesting places, like Cancún, Guanajuato, Morelia and the maya ruins.

The problem of São Paulo is not the lack of interesting places, the real problem is that is unknown in the world and many times is overshadowed for being close to Rio. São Paulo is one of the most cosmopolitan cities of the world in the same level of NY and London.
Most tourists who go to Mexico go to the resorts. But the ones who go for culture almost always have Mexico City, Oaxaca and San Cristobal. Maya ruins is more for Cancun daytrippers, Guanajuato and Morelia are more isolated and Morelia is quite dangerous with the drug cartels

If you gave me 14 days in Mexico I'd do
3 Days Cancun/Tulum
1 Day Merida/Chichen Itza
2 San Cristobal de las Casas
3 Oaxaca
4 Mexico City/Teotihuacan
1 Mexico City Daytrip (Puebla, Butterly Reserve) or probably Palenque

Give me an extra week and I'd do the San Miguel de Allende-Guanajuato-Guadalajara-Puerto Vallarta circuit.

21 in days in Brazil and I'd probably stop over in Sao Paulo for a day or two
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Old January 17th, 2014, 08:36 AM   #592
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You até absolutely right FAAN. SP Is in fact as cosmopolitan as NY and London. Marcus, behave yourself. There's no reason for you laugh at his comment. I've lived in NY and I can assure you SP is as amazing as the Big Apple in many aspects. Being cosmopolitan is one of them.
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You até absolutely right FAAN. SP Is in fact as cosmopolitan as NY and London. Marcus, behave yourself. There's no reason for you laugh at his comment. I've lived in NY and I can assure you SP is as amazing as the Big Apple in many aspects. Being cosmopolitan is one of them.
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Classify a city as "cosmopolitan", or not, is a concept somewhat subjective ...There is a rank called GaWC that classifies the different cities of the world: The index ranked the cities based on their connectivity through four "advanced producer services": accountancy, advertising, banking/finance, and law around the world: two cities is classified at the top of the rank, London and NY those are cities of α++ category; São Paulo and Mexico City are in the same level: α

São Paulo is currently the most populous city in Latin America, using official numbers of both countries, due to strong migration, but is sure is that the trend is that the population will soon be overtaken by Mexico City. First becausa the reversal of the migration from northeastern Brazil, due to economic growth in that region, then because the fertility rate in Brazil is almost two times lower than the Mexican one.
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I do not understand such heresy!
You created an account just to comment on this?

Have you visited Sao Paulo?
Do not know the strength of the largest metropolis in the Southern Hemisphere
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