DISCUSSION | Possible new Copenhagen highrises

mlm · January 25th, 2005, 01:24 AM

In may last year the Danish State and DSB (National Rail) invited 4 different architechtural firms to be a part of a new large development area in Copenhagen. They all had to make an idea for the masterplan for the new area which will contain both appartments, offices and the national Danish archives.

Let's start with an overview of the area. The area is at the bottom on the right part of the rail tracks:

The 4 different proposals:

1 - Tegnestuen Vandkunsten

Total floorarea: 168.000 m2
Max height: 90 m.

This proposal contains several highrises. Four 18 storey, one 25 storey and one 30 storey building. Some renders:

2 - CUBO Arkitekter A/S

Total floorarea: 143.000 m2
Max height: 47 m.

Next we have the CUBO proposal. I can't find much height information, but it is the typical lowrises with a few taller. Renders:

3- Axel Schultes Architekten

Total floorarea: 230.000 m2
Max height: 71 m.

Now this one is weird, but also interesting (although it would need a lot of work to make really nice). There is several small buildings and one very long one which varies in height up to 20 stories. Renders:

4 - Lundgaard & Tranbjerg Arkitektfirma A/S

Total floorarea: 141.000 m2
Max height: 35-40 m.

Last we have the typical lowrise plan again. I actually think parts of it it looks quite nice, but would like some more height added. The renders:

Here's a diagram of how high the 4 different proposals would be:

More renders and text (in Danish only) can be found in this pdf document from Copenhagen Municipality - The Document

Again this is only masterplan proposals and nothing final, so no reason to get too mad or excited about the details. It is very possible that more than one will be choosen and mixed. We'll probably end up with a bunch of lowrises and maybe one half tall or something. One can only hope though

Hviid · January 25th, 2005, 04:02 AM

sweeeeet!

"Axel Schultes Architekten" and "Tegnestuen Vandkunsten" look really cool..

_tictac_ · January 25th, 2005, 05:16 AM

Tegnestuen Vandkunsten all the way, nothing impressive but come on...we need some decent highrises in Copenhagen.

Monkey · January 25th, 2005, 08:13 AM

Don't get too mad or excited ... thanks for the warning, mlm!

I might have had some choice words for several of these proposals!

And thanks for bringing us the as usual well documented & comprehensive news on this project!

In view of the above, I shall phrase my reaction VERY cautiously: a tallish tower on the waterfront would be nice!

Gatis · January 25th, 2005, 02:37 PM

Interesting - Axel Schultes is the most interesting of course! The other ones are a bit conservative to my mind.

SkeiTeriS · January 25th, 2005, 03:35 PM

Axel Schultes Architekten looks amazing

pablonis · January 25th, 2005, 03:46 PM

i love axel schultes project, its very impresive

Kaneda · January 25th, 2005, 08:37 PM

Axel Schultz's proposal is very imprssive, but I dont think it will work. Sure, it looks cool, but not in the very centre of Copenhagen. I'd prefer Vandkunsten, they haver several nice highrises. I also thinks they have a good case, since they are such a respected company.

But, all I really pray for is a highrise, even if its a small one.

Insane alex · January 25th, 2005, 11:27 PM

The third one is very nice but dosn't fit in.

ch1le · January 26th, 2005, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLL_4ever

sweeeeet!

"Axel Schultes Architekten" and "Tegnestuen Vandkunsten" look really cool..

ditto! They look nice!

***Þróndeimr*** · January 26th, 2005, 01:43 PM

Axel Schultes Architekten's design looks really interesting...

tournesol · January 27th, 2005, 03:03 PM

It seems that the city will go on with the planning bases on the first project (Vandkunsten) and the fourth (Lundgaard & Tranberg).
They primarely uses the last one as their starting point, and all towers has been cut down to max 12 floors /44 meters. Too bad, but very typical

This is really an area that could take some taller buildings without being in conflict with the historic towers in the old center...

Hviid · January 27th, 2005, 03:37 PM

noooo! booooo!!!! Why would they want to make the builidings even shorter??? THAT SUCKS!

ch1le · January 27th, 2005, 04:01 PM

dam nimby attitude...

HighinParis · February 1st, 2005, 06:58 PM

Extremely ugly. It looks like architecture from Eastern Germany from the fifites. Are the Danes aware of the fact that it is 2005?

mlm · February 1st, 2005, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighinParis

Extremely ugly. It looks like architecture from Eastern Germany from the fifites. Are the Danes aware of the fact that it is 2005?

Next time you should try to actually read what's in the toipic before saying anything like that. I can outline it once again for you: This is only masterplan proposals and nothing final, so no reason to get too mad or excited about the details.

Which means that this is just ideas of how the buildings could be placed, but the designs of the actual buildings are yet to be made.

chukchi · February 1st, 2005, 09:00 PM

I like the 3rd one the most. It looks so interesting and original

Hviid · February 1st, 2005, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighinParis

Extremely ugly. It looks like architecture from Eastern Germany from the fifites. Are the Danes aware of the fact that it is 2005?

Are the french people aware that news articles need to be read before commented on?

Trigga · February 3rd, 2005, 03:21 PM

I think I like Vandkunstens the best allover, even though the Axel Schultes proposal is pretty interesting ( I just think it is to dominating and will probably create a big and maybe a little bit weird contrast to the rest of the city). Vandkunstens proposal has the potential (with some renderings maybe) to make CPH look like the "metropol" it is on the way to be. Just my opinion.

HighinParis · February 4th, 2005, 03:24 PM

I did read the previous articles, and I think it is a masterplan that should be thrown into the dust bin. It lacks ambition and quality (with the exception maybe of Schultes).

January 25th, 2005, 01:24 AM	#1
mlm Member #109 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Herning, Denmark Posts: 2,661 Likes (Received): 34	DISCUSSION \| Possible new Copenhagen highrises In may last year the Danish State and DSB (National Rail) invited 4 different architechtural firms to be a part of a new large development area in Copenhagen. They all had to make an idea for the masterplan for the new area which will contain both appartments, offices and the national Danish archives. Let's start with an overview of the area. The area is at the bottom on the right part of the rail tracks: The 4 different proposals: 1 - Tegnestuen Vandkunsten Total floorarea: 168.000 m2 Max height: 90 m. This proposal contains several highrises. Four 18 storey, one 25 storey and one 30 storey building. Some renders: 2 - CUBO Arkitekter A/S Total floorarea: 143.000 m2 Max height: 47 m. Next we have the CUBO proposal. I can't find much height information, but it is the typical lowrises with a few taller. Renders: 3- Axel Schultes Architekten Total floorarea: 230.000 m2 Max height: 71 m. Now this one is weird, but also interesting (although it would need a lot of work to make really nice). There is several small buildings and one very long one which varies in height up to 20 stories. Renders: 4 - Lundgaard & Tranbjerg Arkitektfirma A/S Total floorarea: 141.000 m2 Max height: 35-40 m. Last we have the typical lowrise plan again. I actually think parts of it it looks quite nice, but would like some more height added. The renders: Here's a diagram of how high the 4 different proposals would be: More renders and text (in Danish only) can be found in this pdf document from Copenhagen Municipality - The Document Again this is only masterplan proposals and nothing final, so no reason to get too mad or excited about the details. It is very possible that more than one will be choosen and mixed. We'll probably end up with a bunch of lowrises and maybe one half tall or something. One can only hope though __________________ My photos: Hannover - Paris - Frankfurt - Berlin - Rotterdam - The Alps - Hamburg - Barcelona - Rhine-Ruhr - Los Angeles - Northeastern America - Austria/Germany - Alps/Cities <---NEW Personal websites: Herningshuse.dk - Mikael Lyk Madsen Photography

January 25th, 2005, 04:02 AM	#2
Hviid Positivist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bryggen, Copenhagen Posts: 2,577 Likes (Received): 25	sweeeeet! "Axel Schultes Architekten" and "Tegnestuen Vandkunsten" look really cool.. __________________ ~ A wise man once said, pretty much everything I've ever said in my life! ~

January 25th, 2005, 02:37 PM	#5
Gatis Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,979 Likes (Received): 14	Interesting - Axel Schultes is the most interesting of course! The other ones are a bit conservative to my mind. __________________ Wondermondo - an armchair guide to world attractions - most interesting landmarks and attractions in the world! Ambermarks - landmarks of Latvia

January 25th, 2005, 11:27 PM	#9
Insane alex Stockholm rules! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Stockholm, Sweden/ Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 1,737 Likes (Received): 1	The third one is very nice but dosn't fit in. __________________ Stockholm projects http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=449245 Countries i've been to: Australia, Austria, Canada, Brazil, China, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Lichtenstein, Germany, The Netherlands, Latvia, Italy, UK, USA, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Hungary, Slovakia, Slovenia, Hong Kong.

January 27th, 2005, 03:37 PM	#13
Hviid Positivist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bryggen, Copenhagen Posts: 2,577 Likes (Received): 25	noooo! booooo!!!! Why would they want to make the builidings even shorter??? THAT SUCKS! __________________ ~ A wise man once said, pretty much everything I've ever said in my life! ~

January 25th, 2005, 05:16 AM	#3
_tictac_ Great Dane! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 367 Likes (Received): 0	Tegnestuen Vandkunsten all the way, nothing impressive but come on...we need some decent highrises in Copenhagen.

January 25th, 2005, 08:13 AM	#4
Monkey Londinium langur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Londinium Posts: 14,616 Likes (Received): 1	Don't get too mad or excited ... thanks for the warning, mlm! I might have had some choice words for several of these proposals! And thanks for bringing us the as usual well documented & comprehensive news on this project! In view of the above, I shall phrase my reaction VERY cautiously: a tallish tower on the waterfront would be nice!

January 25th, 2005, 03:35 PM	#6
SkeiTeriS Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 38 Likes (Received): 0	Axel Schultes Architekten looks amazing

January 25th, 2005, 03:46 PM	#7
pablonis BANNED Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vilnius Posts: 281 Likes (Received): 0	i love axel schultes project, its very impresive

January 25th, 2005, 08:37 PM	#8
Kaneda Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 461 Likes (Received): 1	Axel Schultz's proposal is very imprssive, but I dont think it will work. Sure, it looks cool, but not in the very centre of Copenhagen. I'd prefer Vandkunsten, they haver several nice highrises. I also thinks they have a good case, since they are such a respected company. But, all I really pray for is a highrise, even if its a small one.

January 26th, 2005, 01:43 PM	#11
*Þróndeimr* Adventurous! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Trondheim Posts: 11,263 Likes (Received): 260	Axel Schultes Architekten's design looks really interesting...

January 27th, 2005, 03:03 PM	#12
tournesol Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 326 Likes (Received): 6	It seems that the city will go on with the planning bases on the first project (Vandkunsten) and the fourth (Lundgaard & Tranberg). They primarely uses the last one as their starting point, and all towers has been cut down to max 12 floors /44 meters. Too bad, but very typical This is really an area that could take some taller buildings without being in conflict with the historic towers in the old center...

January 27th, 2005, 04:01 PM	#14
ch1le always on Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: tallinn/Tartu Posts: 4,528 Likes (Received): 1	dam nimby attitude... __________________ not ready yet

February 1st, 2005, 06:58 PM	#15
HighinParis 312M since 1889 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Paris Posts: 413 Likes (Received): 0	Extremely ugly. It looks like architecture from Eastern Germany from the fifites. Are the Danes aware of the fact that it is 2005?

February 1st, 2005, 09:00 PM	#17
chukchi Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando (Chicago in my heart) Posts: 2,750 Likes (Received): 0	I like the 3rd one the most. It looks so interesting and original

February 3rd, 2005, 03:21 PM	#19
Trigga Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 8 Likes (Received): 0	I think I like Vandkunstens the best allover, even though the Axel Schultes proposal is pretty interesting ( I just think it is to dominating and will probably create a big and maybe a little bit weird contrast to the rest of the city). Vandkunstens proposal has the potential (with some renderings maybe) to make CPH look like the "metropol" it is on the way to be. Just my opinion.

February 4th, 2005, 03:24 PM	#20
HighinParis 312M since 1889 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Paris Posts: 413 Likes (Received): 0	I did read the previous articles, and I think it is a masterplan that should be thrown into the dust bin. It lacks ambition and quality (with the exception maybe of Schultes).

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