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Old January 13th, 2016, 08:59 PM   #141
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This will be one of the best supertalls in NYC. Build it now!!!!
I don't think it's an exaggeration to assert that, if constructed as in the rendering, this would be the best-looking supertall in the world.
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Old January 13th, 2016, 09:00 PM   #142
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I don't think it's an exaggeration to assert that, if constructed as in the rendering, this would be the best-looking supertall in the world.
It sure is!
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Old January 14th, 2016, 04:07 AM   #143
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I don't think it's an exaggeration to assert that, if constructed as in the rendering, this would be the best-looking supertall in the world.
Certainly a nice design but I can think of several supertalls that it would have hard time competing with.
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Old January 14th, 2016, 04:37 AM   #144
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Certainly a nice design but I can think of several supertalls that it would have hard time competing with.
In my opinion, the only New York City supertall that can compete with this proposed tower is the Steinway Tower at 111 West 57th Street. And keep in mind we have not seen detailed renders about this tower [340 Flatbush] so we really do not know its full potential yet.
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Old January 14th, 2016, 08:30 PM   #145
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Certainly a nice design but I can think of several supertalls that it would have hard time competing with.
The only ones that come to mind for competition are the ESB and Chrysler Building, both of which are pretty dated these days and don't look like much below the crown. Certainly nothing in China or the Middle East and none of the other buildings in NYC can compete.

Also, it looks like they've quietly demolished the building that was on site here over the past few weeks -- I walk by regularly and didn't even notice until today.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 03:07 AM   #146
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Old January 16th, 2016, 04:31 AM   #147
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Certainly nothing in China or the Middle East and none of the other buildings in NYC can compete.
Certainly this is entirely subjective.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 07:12 AM   #148
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Let's see some cladding mockups and then we'll talk. 111 West 57th, Bank of America, Tower Verre, and a couple of others can most certainly compete.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 08:41 PM   #149
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this skyline needs a supertall!


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Old February 18th, 2016, 12:11 AM   #150
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New rendering in a story in the Times.

73-Story Tower Would Be Brooklyn’s Tallest By Far
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/18/ny...s&emc=rss&_r=1

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Scrutiny is about to begin of a proposal for the tallest tower in Brooklyn, one that would be impossible to ignore.

Two developers have submitted plans in recent weeks for a 1,066-foot tower in Downtown Brooklyn, which would be almost twice as high as anything surrounding it. The complex, at 9 DeKalb Avenue, would also bring the current surge in supertall towers across the East River from Manhattan.

The 73-story tower, to be built by JDS Development Group and the Chetrit Group, would be more than double the height of the 512-foot Williamsburgh Savings Bank building, which has been the tallest in the borough for nearly a century.

The plans were drawn up by SHoP Architects, whose portfolio includes another of the most recognizable new buildings in Brooklyn, the Barclays Center.

For this project, the architects say they drew inspiration from the limestone-columned Brooklyn Dime Savings Bank, which sits next door to the site of the tower, which would be incorporated into the property. The bronzed ribbons running up the tower’s glassy sides draw on details of the bank, and its hexagonal shape echoes the bank’s footprint. Part of the tower would rest on a rear portion of the bank, which the developer wants to demolish. This could become a sticking point, since the bank is a city landmark.

The bigger issue for many would seem to be the height, even in a neighborhood and city marked by tall towers.

“Yes, the city planned this for a new Brooklyn,” Gina Pollara, the newly appointed president of the Municipal Art Society, said. “But does the public really understand what the cumulative effect of all these towers will be on the public realm?”

In 2014, JDS and Chetrit spent $46 million on the 340 Flatbush Avenue Extension, a five-story midcentury building that covers about a third of the triangular site and would be demolished to accommodate most of the tower. In December, the developers acquired the bank building, until last year a branch of JPMorgan Chase, for $90 million. They plan to use its soaring Beaux-Arts spaces for shops as well as incorporating roughly 300,000 square feet of air rights that make the tower’s spire possible.

A 1,066-foot tower can be built along Flatbush Avenue without any special approvals from the city, but since the exterior and interior of the bank building — opened in 1908 and expanded in 1932 — are protected, alterations to the bank must be approved by the city’s Landmarks Preservation Commission. A hearing before the commission is scheduled for March 15. The developers are also scheduled to appear before Brooklyn Community Board 2 on Wednesday at 6 p.m., though the board will play only an advisory role.

Unlike the Manhattan towers rising more than 1,000 feet, the Brooklyn structure, with nearly 500 units, is planned as a rental apartment building, according to a person familiar with the plans who was not authorized to discuss them publicly. The developers also applied for the 421-a program before it expired last year, and would set aside at least 20 percent of the units as affordable housing.

Such an investment underscores the continued strength of the Brooklyn real estate market, where prices in some neighborhoods have already surpassed those in Manhattan.

The proposed tower would be near one of the borough’s most important intersections, the corner of Flatbush Avenue Extension and the Fulton Street Mall, and would rise beside one of Brooklyn’s unofficial landmarks, Junior’s Restaurant. For a time, the 1950s diner famous for its cheesecake was up for sale in the hopes of facilitating a similar tower project, though the owners eventually decided not to sell, or even to give up their air rights.

The developers already have considerable experience with supertall towers. JDS is constructing a 1,428-foot condominium at 111 West 57th Street, that rises from the former Steinway Building. Until last year, the Brooklyn-based Chetrit Group was the owner of Willis Tower in Chicago, the tallest building in North America after 1 World Trade Center.

“We’re really excited to give Brooklyn a building that isn’t bashful, that isn’t shy,” Michael Stern, the founder and managing partner of JDS, said in a statement. “We want this project to encapsulate everything that is great about Brooklyn’s past, and everything that is great about Brooklyn’s future.”

Since the neighborhood was rezoned in 2004, Downtown Brooklyn has seen a swell of activity. There have been 6,758 apartments built since then, with 5,254 under construction and an additional 7,790 in the planning stages, according to the Downtown Brooklyn Partnership, a local business group.

“Brooklyn has redefined itself, in terms of the kinds of housing it can support,” Jonathan Miller, the president of the appraisal firm Miller Samuel, said. “This project, I’d almost think of it as a part of downtown Manhattan.”

Mr. Miller cautioned that with so many units on the horizon, and demand for luxury rentals softening, the tower could be difficult to fill. According to his firm, rents for the most expensive apartments in Brooklyn fell 6 percent in January from a year earlier, to $5,163 per month.

Among Brooklyn boosters, the feeling is that such a tower is overdue.

“Honestly, the first time I got a glimpse of these plans, I got a little emotional,” Tucker Reed, president of the Downtown Brooklyn Partnership, said. “It’s just a marker of how far Brooklyn has come.”
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Old February 18th, 2016, 12:23 AM   #151
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It is so good, almost a shame this area will be filled with skyscrapers in the near future.
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Old February 18th, 2016, 12:25 AM   #152
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Love it!
Seems like 1066 ft is indeed the actual height, pretty good for the outer boroughs. I really cannot wait to see what the Brooklyn and Queens skylines will look like by the end of the decade.
Also the fact that it's gonna be a rental makes it even more likely that this one will more forward in this market.
I say build it.
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Old February 18th, 2016, 12:39 AM   #153
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Staggeringly cool.

Here's another view:
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Old February 18th, 2016, 12:43 AM   #154
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Old February 18th, 2016, 01:22 AM   #155
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If built as shown above, I think this could be better than Verre, and dare I say it, 111 W 57th.
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Old February 18th, 2016, 01:29 AM   #156
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This is now the best proposed design in the city.
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Old February 18th, 2016, 01:32 AM   #157
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It looks even better like that.
Imagine it a little taller in midtown, would be amazing
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Old February 18th, 2016, 01:43 AM   #158
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If built as shown above, I think this could be better than Verre, and dare I say it, 111 W 57th.
It is certainly in the mix along those 2 as my top 3 new towers in the city.
It will come down to execution cause right now I can't put one design over another.

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Old February 18th, 2016, 03:12 AM   #159
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Hell yes! Amazing building

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Love it!
Seems like 1066 ft is indeed the actual height, pretty good for the outer boroughs. I really cannot wait to see what the Brooklyn and Queens skylines will look like by the end of the decade.
Also the fact that it's gonna be a rental makes it even more likely that this one will more forward in this market.
I say build it.
It actually looks quite a bit taller than 1066 compared to the other buildings, maybe that's the solid roof or top floor? Even if not it's still awesome
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Old February 18th, 2016, 03:22 AM   #160
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This is a cool first supertall that will hopefully spur the development of others. This design definitely makes it set to be the king of Kings (county) for a while (if not by height, then design).
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