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Old April 14th, 2015, 05:40 AM   #141
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Those renderings are miles ahead of the old ones
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Old April 14th, 2015, 05:46 AM   #142
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Meeting is about to start, I'm not sure if these are the actual new renders, or just less detailed to give an idea.....
I hope so, the cladding looks waaay better.
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Old April 14th, 2015, 05:57 AM   #143
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so, 0.95 billion gets you this in chicago, 1.2 billion gets you the kingdom tower in sa..
labor costs?
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Old April 14th, 2015, 05:59 AM   #144
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BTW they expect construction about a year from now.
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Old April 14th, 2015, 06:00 AM   #145
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By: Blair Kamin

Please discredit his height info.

1. He doesn't mention the parapet

2. The upper wacker height thing is the stupidest thing I've heard.
yeah if they pull that, then all spires dont count anymore.
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Old April 14th, 2015, 06:29 AM   #146
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BTW they expect construction about a year from now.
Well, at least it sounds like it will happen, I would have hoped sooner but that's not too bad
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Old April 14th, 2015, 06:31 AM   #147
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It seems officially it's 1,444. It could easily change to 1,200 was what it was referred by from the architect, and developer.
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Old April 14th, 2015, 06:34 AM   #148
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It seems officially it's 1,444. It could easily change to 1,200 was what it was referred by from the architect, and developer.
With the floor count bump it seems 1200 is more likely but who knows.

Where did the 1200' figure come from anyway? Maybe 1144 refers to a top floor/solid roof.

It's a good height but 1200 puts it a little past the three other Chicago buildings in the 350 meter range instead of being the exact same height. You'd think they'd wanna stick out a little
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Old April 14th, 2015, 03:15 PM   #149
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Seems like 1,144' is to the very top ... and with a whopping 93 stories. Ceiling height must be low then.



1,200' would be awesome though.
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Old April 14th, 2015, 03:47 PM   #150
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Seems like 1,144' is to the very top ... and with a whopping 93 stories. Ceiling height must be low then.



1,200' would be awesome though.


The unit count is fairly high so exclusive floor-through duplexes with double height ceilings is not on the menu. Chicago's condo market more closely resembles Toronto's than New York's.
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Old April 14th, 2015, 06:05 PM   #151
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Can someone explain the upper whacker lower whacker thing?

Does this mean the 1144 figure is from 50 feet underground? It would be 1094 in that case which is okay because it's not the exact same height as the other big 3.
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Old April 14th, 2015, 06:37 PM   #152
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Can someone explain the upper whacker lower whacker thing?

Does this mean the 1144 figure is from 50 feet underground? It would be 1094 in that case which is okay because it's not the exact same height as the other big 3.
Wacker Drive has 3 levels. The lowest level is ground level.
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Old April 14th, 2015, 08:14 PM   #153
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Those renderings are miles ahead of the old ones
I agree, the design doesn't look as nearly as chintzy as the old one.
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Old April 14th, 2015, 09:50 PM   #154
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Does the glass actually change in color up the building? Or is that being exaggerated to highlight its form?
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Old April 14th, 2015, 11:00 PM   #155
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They need to get rid of those ugly balconies.
From the new renders it looks like they did!
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Old April 14th, 2015, 11:11 PM   #156
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Can someone explain the upper whacker lower whacker thing?

Does this mean the 1144 figure is from 50 feet underground? It would be 1094 in that case which is okay because it's not the exact same height as the other big 3.


This is a picture of the road that will go through the center of the building. The layers of steel at the other end are roads. The top level is upper wacker drive. the second level is lower wacker drive and the third level is lower lower wacker drive.

The roads in downtown Chicago were built at higher elevations because they had a lot of river traffic from shipping and road traffic. To accomodate both they needed drawbridges and the bascule bridges in Chicago required a certain amount of clearance to operate. The higher elevation also allowed for proper sewage and drainage in the city which had problems because it was originally built on swamp land. I might also add that lower wacker and lower michigan are awesome for avoiding tourist traffic many folks who visit aren't even aware the lower levels exist.
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This is a picture of the road that will go through the center of the building. The layers of steel at the other end are roads. The top level is upper wacker drive. the second level is lower wacker drive and the third level is lower lower wacker drive.

The roads in downtown Chicago were built at higher elevations because they had a lot of river traffic from shipping and road traffic. To accomodate both they needed drawbridges and the bascule bridges in Chicago required a certain amount of clearance to operate. The higher elevation also allowed for proper sewage and drainage in the city which had problems because it was originally built on swamp land. I might also add that lower wacker and lower michigan are awesome for avoiding tourist traffic many folks who visit aren't even aware the lower levels exist.
another bonus is a lot of utility traffic stays underground in this part of the loop. cargo, package delivery, garbage, ect. all off of the mains streets.
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Old April 15th, 2015, 12:12 AM   #158
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Those renderings are miles ahead of the old ones
I agree! When I first saw the renderings, I thought it was hideous but now with the latest renderings, I think it's very nice. Well done. Cheers.
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Old April 15th, 2015, 09:23 PM   #159
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The gradient effect is the masterstroke. It accentuates the waves. Love it.
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Old April 15th, 2015, 11:24 PM   #160
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The gradient effect is the masterstroke. It accentuates the waves. Love it.
Exactly!!!!! When seen in elevation from the front or back, you get the effect of curvature [i.e. change in depth perpendicular to the plane of the facade]....... something that would not be possible without the color gradient in the glass

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