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Old November 26th, 2008, 06:34 PM   #21
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The Famous Schwebebahn. I clearly remmember when I was learning German at the Goethe Institut and there was a lesson about the different types of "trains" there are in Germany.

There was a great Urban feeling in those pictures, BTW.
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Old November 28th, 2008, 01:16 PM   #22
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The Schwebebahn rocks. Really safe (I can only think of two incidents: One a few years back (I think it was the only one with injured people!) and the one with the elephant....

Anyhow, the old industrial style is just cool.

Btw., it was build because the lack of space. Wuppertal lies (es its name indicates) in the Wupper valley, therefore it's just impossible to build a normal rail or tram line. Putting the line above the river was the best option.
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Old November 29th, 2008, 07:14 AM   #23
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Compared to other elevated system (say, Chicago El), this way is much more elegant. The rail is lifted much higher, giving people in the street more space. The train being in the same space as cars and people also makes it more intimate and less divisive.
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Old November 29th, 2008, 09:19 PM   #24
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I have one question..... why?
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Btw., it was build because the lack of space. Wuppertal lies (es its name indicates) in the Wupper valley, therefore it's just impossible to build a normal rail or tram line. Putting the line above the river was the best option.
As far as I know, there WAS a (large) former classic tramway system in Wuppertal...
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Old November 29th, 2008, 11:07 PM   #25
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The Famous Schwebebahn. I clearly remmember when I was learning German at the Goethe Institut and there was a lesson about the different types of "trains" there are in Germany.
Fine! Goethe Institute is giving us the definitions for heavy rail and light rail, commuter rail and urban rail? They explain you the differences between a stadtbahn and a s-bahn?
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Old July 28th, 2014, 04:42 PM   #26
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WUPPERTAL | Public Transport

This arial raliway is over 100 years old and is still a single line. To my knowledge it hasn't been extended since it was built. By contrast, virtually all tram and metro systems of similar age or older consist of more than one line (though some tramway networks have been reduced to single lines).
The hang over side design doesn't seem to allow switching outside of balloon loops and apparently there is a turntable somewhere along the line because of this.
If it were converted someday to a SAFAGE or SIPEM type arial raliway, switching could become more feasilbe allowing it to expand into a ponentially extensive network.
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Old July 28th, 2014, 09:13 PM   #27
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There is no H in Wuppertal. The thread title should be corrected.
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Old July 28th, 2014, 09:17 PM   #28
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Old July 29th, 2014, 08:46 AM   #29
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Map from urbanrail.net:

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Old July 30th, 2014, 01:56 PM   #30
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I've ridden the Schwebebahn last month. The frequency is pretty high, at 4 min headway off-peak, but the trains are still pretty full. They swing freely in the corners, which is good considering the bank angle is always right, but they tend to keep swinging if the station is right after a corner. If my ears are right they have chopper engines.
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Old July 30th, 2014, 05:36 PM   #31
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I've ridden the Schwebebahn last month. The frequency is pretty high, at 4 min headway off-peak, but the trains are still pretty full. They swing freely in the corners, which is good considering the bank angle is always right, but they tend to keep swinging if the station is right after a corner. If my ears are right they have chopper engines.
As the trains are from the 70s, they have DC motors controled with choppers. To answer some questions:

1) Frequency is high and they plan to have new trains and ATO, which makes sense as there is no real possibility to extend the platforms. The line is heritage and protected meanwhile.

2) Back in the 70s there have been plans to extend the system to Nächstebreck but nothing happened. Basically the Schwebebahn is the ideal solution for a compact mid-size city like Wuppertal. It has been not extended because it satisfacts all needs. Tram was closed in the 80s, mostly paralleling the Schwebebahn. Wuppertal is a very hilly city, a funicular would be better

3) There are loops at the end, but there are also switches to store the trains on several tracks. Switches work similar top those of monorail-lines and are as complicated and expensive of cause. The Schwebebahn was constructed by Eugen Langen. Around 1895-1910 it was discussed as serious alternative to subway in Hamburg, Berlin and Dresden. In Berlin, the company AEG build some pillars for Schwebebahn at Brunnenstraße which shocked people that much, that it never came reality and todays U-Bahnline 8 was built. Wuppertal was ideal as the pillars span over the riverbed of the Wupper for almost the complete route.

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Old August 11th, 2014, 12:44 PM   #32
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I think, its route should be increased.
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Old August 16th, 2014, 02:57 PM   #33
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Some pictures taken by me in summer 2011:

Oberbarmen, railway station and in the background the eastern Schwebebahn terminus:


Oberbarmen terminus:


A train is approaching the departure platform at Oberbarmen:


Meeting another train at some station:


View from a Schwebebahn train:


Arrival platform at Vohwinkel, the western terminus:


Vohwinkel station:


Entrance stairs at Vohwinkel:


A few pictures showing why this kind of transport haven't been a success elsewhere






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Old August 16th, 2014, 02:59 PM   #34
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P.S. if some kind of extension of "something better than standard busses" would be needed in the western end of Schwebebahn, it would be far easier and cheaper to extend the trolley bus line from Solingen that reverses at Vohwinkel.
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Old August 17th, 2014, 03:21 PM   #35
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I made this video a year ago, during my first real visit to the Schwebebahn. As a kid around 2001 i did it as well, but unfortunately it was closed down because of reconstruction. When will the new stock be delivered?
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Old November 19th, 2014, 12:58 AM   #36
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I made some video this Saturday, anybody knows how to put it here?
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Old November 19th, 2014, 01:06 AM   #37
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If it is on YouTube, then use this formula.

Firstly, take the URL for the YouTube video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXWS0PHEqUs

Take the last portion of the URL that is highlighted in bold.

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Take those letters:

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Surround them with the YouTube tag (without the spaces).

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Video of the monorail from Timosha21

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Old October 18th, 2015, 10:04 PM   #39
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That's so cool.............Monorails are so under appreciated especially in Europe and NA.
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Old October 18th, 2015, 10:07 PM   #40
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That's so cool.............Monorails are so under appreciated especially in Europe and NA.
Monorails with their infrastructure are ugly and do not fit in European cities with great architecture and history so sorry no one needs them.

And by the way Trams and Metros are much more effective rapid transit.
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