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Old October 29th, 2014, 06:20 PM   #61
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next friday October 31st, presentation of bids for rolling stock
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Old October 30th, 2014, 01:07 AM   #62
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Great! They'll announce their final decision about the High Speed Rail too!
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Old October 30th, 2014, 04:39 AM   #63
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On the 31st of October are they also announcing the winner for the Cancun Express.?
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Old October 30th, 2014, 07:11 AM   #64
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Nope, I guess they'll announce the winner for the Mexico-Toluca rolling stock

Correction: They'll present their proposals tomorrow.
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Old October 30th, 2014, 07:31 AM   #65
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Why do you guys write in English when you guys don't write proper sentences correctly? I would rather read your comments in Spanish so I could at least understand it. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/bash.gif
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of wisdom those words are
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Old October 30th, 2014, 08:01 AM   #67
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Why do you guys write in English when you guys don't write proper sentences correctly? I would rather read your comments in Spanish so I could at least understand it. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/bash.gif
I am so sorry to hear that Vic.
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Old October 30th, 2014, 09:53 AM   #68
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Ok, let's get serious. It seems that Bombardier will bid for the rolling stocks for Toluca and Cancun.

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/finanz...os-114432.html


Check this picture:



He's Raymond Bachand, President, Americas Division for Bombardier Transportation.

And the train behind is this:

BOMBARDIER SPACIUM





The SPACIUM commuter train is a swift, flexible vehicle designed to provide maximum seating capacity, superior passenger comfort, improved access, and an attractive interior design.

The cars feature:

Comfortable, spacious interiors

Cars are 3.06 m wide, a feat achieved by using 13.24 m short cars. Cars also feature five aligned seats that measure 490 mm at shoulder height, arm-rests, head-rests, and a spacious aisle.
High capacity

Based on the train's interior and the number of cars, between 800 and 1,000 passengers can be accommodated, over half of whom are seated.
Superior access

Large vestibules, combined with wide doors and gangways, provide excellent access for travellers and improve passenger flow. The train's entrance is positioned to match 920 mm high platforms, with end-cars accessible to wheelchairs from 920 mm high platforms.
Striking interior design

Panoramic windows and large gangways create a transparent and open atmosphere. Meanwhile, a modernized design offers smooth curves, vivid colours, and LED-based colour-changing lighting.
Flexibility and speed

SPACIUM can be adapted to meet the length of platforms with seven and eight car versions and features electric dual-voltage propulsion (1.5 kV DC and 25 kV AC). The trains can travel at a speed of 140 kilometres per hour.





http://www.bombardier.com/en/transpo...f-name=SPACIUM
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140 Kph is the maximum speed, hmmmm seems a bit slow if you ask me. So what other candidate and fleet is also interested so we can make a comparison.
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Old October 30th, 2014, 10:37 AM   #70
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I agree, they said the average speed would be 160 kph, so let's wait to know the other candidates.
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I agree, they said the average speed would be 160 kph, so let's wait to know the other candidates.

Oh I thought you knew all already and you had the insight!
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Old October 30th, 2014, 10:51 AM   #72
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I wish!
I just read the newspapers online.
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Old October 30th, 2014, 07:08 PM   #73
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Max speed should be 160km/h, thats the speed the train must achieve between Santa Fe and Lerma
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Old October 30th, 2014, 07:11 PM   #74
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19 companies interested to bid for the Mexico-Toluca intercity

Siemens, Mitsui, Thales, Indra, Abengoa, Isolux, Comsa, Elecnor, Cobra, CAF (CISE, Aldesa), Newag, Bombardier, Alstom.
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yeah, well, the Spacium is more a suburban train than a interurban one. Not too shabby, but I think that route needs something more like this:



... and maybe...






In order to ensure the passengers comfort.

Ok, maybe a vending machine won't be necessary, but the restrooms are definitely a must.

The Spacium doesn't even have a place to put your bags.
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Old October 30th, 2014, 07:39 PM   #76
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yeah, well, the Spacium is more a suburban train than a interurban one.
Indeed - this is the new train that has been designed and is currently
deployed for the suburban services around Paris, I think.
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Old October 30th, 2014, 07:43 PM   #77
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is correct.

the complete travel from terminal to terminal will be 35 mins, that is why is imperative 160km/h, maybe Bombardier have a new version of Spacium that can adapt to that speed.
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But the spacium is designed to transport:

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between 800 and 1,000 passengers can be accommodated, over half of whom are seated
I don't know if it would be possible to carry standing passengers from Mexico to Toluca. It would be exhausting.
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But the spacium is designed to transport:



I don't know if it would be possible to carry standing passengers from Mexico to Toluca. It would be exhausting.
yeah, that is one of my complains about the required rolling stock, they want around 1000 passengers capacity, but that means many people standing.

sometimes this project looks more as a commuter than an intercity. we will know the true soon.
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I wonder why Bombardier didn't propose the TWINDEXX Express double-deck intercity model.



Length 200,6 m (8-cars)
Width 2.800 mm
Max. Speed 200 km/h
Seated Capacity 625

http://www.bombardier.com/en/transpo...-name=TWINDEXX

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