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Old August 9th, 2014, 05:24 PM   #1
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TORONTO | Bay Park Centre - 45 Bay | 265m | 54 fl | 238m | 48 fl | Prep

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The parking lot site at 45 Bay is to be combined with adjacent parcels to the north; the space above the east end of the Union Station platforms and tracks, the GO Union Bus Terminal to its north, and the Dominion Public Building at 1 Front Street West. 45 Bay is owned by Ivanhoé Cambridge, Union Station is owned by the City of Toronto, the rail assets associated with the Union Station Railway Corridor are owned by GO Transit, the Dominion Public Building is owned by the Government of Canada.

It would appear that the owners of the various parcels have banded together to plan a massive multi-phased redevelopment of the combined parcels with Houston-based multi-national developer Hines acting as the development manager for at least the first phase, planned for the 45 Bay parking lot site. Hines has Toronto offices and owns and manages a number of buildings in Canada, and is currently developing the Bayside area on Toronto Harbour between Sherbourne and Parliament Streets.

A competition was recently held to choose an architectural firm to design the development. The winner was Wilkinson Eyre Architects of London England. The overall design includes 3 towers, each with paired volumes of varying heights, all marked by a diagrid with interposed 12-storey diamond-shaped and faceted sections.

The first tower, in the southwest corner of the site (and seen on the right in the image above), is described in a City of Toronto zoning review status notice as being 48 storeys tall plus a mechanical penthouse, while Hines's website describes it as 50 storeys tall and having 120,770 square metres/1,300,000 square feet of rentable area. The latter number makes more sense as the 12-storey diamond-shaped sections appear to rise above a tall two-storey podium.

Critically, according to the City of Toronto zoning review notice, the first phase will include a new bus terminal at street level. This feature is not mentioned on the Hines website, but it has long been rumoured that the Bay Street Coach Terminal just north of Dundas Street where intercity buses currently serve Toronto would be replaced by a new terminal at Union Station. A new terminal at this site will reduce the time it takes buses to reach their destination from the Gardiner Expressway, and will allow coach passengers to interchange with Union Station's various rail and subway services. GO buses already have a terminal north of the rail corridor on a parcel at the combined site. It is not known yet whether these buses would also shift to the new terminal on the south side of the rail corridor.

The City of Toronto zoning review notice mentions a park to be built over the rail corridor, but the size of the park and exact location on the site is not yet known. The renderings from Hines' website show some greenery, but moreover they show a multi-storey retail podium bridging the corridor. It is possible that the renderings represent an earlier and more ambitious plan for the redevelopment without a park, or a final build-out where the park is hidden behind the second and third towers and associated podiums in these views. Another City of Toronto zoning review notice mentions a four-storey building to be built north of the park.

The towers of the following phases from the Hines website renderings appear to be 60 storeys tall at the northwest corner of the site (at Bay and Front) and 36 storeys tall at the northeast corner of the site (at Yonge and Front). New buildings have also been added in this design atop the 1935-built Dominion Public Building, a neoclassical building with various federal government offices which is listed on Canada's National Register of Historic Places.


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Old August 10th, 2014, 08:26 PM   #2
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There seems to be a very lengthy time line for this one. The shorter tower on the south of the rail tracks will go up first, then the retail section above the tracks. The taller tower north of the rail tracks somewhere around 2022. Provided things move ahead, we'll be talking about this one for a good 8-10 years.
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Old August 10th, 2014, 10:20 PM   #3
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sweet designs!
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Old August 11th, 2014, 03:20 AM   #4
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Impressive. Looks very Norman Foster.
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Old September 30th, 2014, 01:03 AM   #5
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Major announcement happening tomorrow.

From Canada Newswire at 2:00 PM today:

Media Advisory - Press conference by Ivanhoé Cambridge and Metrolinx

TORONTO, Sept. 29, 2014 /CNW Telbec/ - Media representatives are invited to a news conference during which Daniel Fournier, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Ivanhoé Cambridge, Paul Gleeson, Executive Vice President, Global Development, Ivanhoé Cambridge, Steven Del Duca, Ontario Minister of Transportation and Robert Prichard, Chair of Metrolinx, will make an announcement about a new real estate project in Toronto's financial core.

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September 30, 2014
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The Fairmont Royal York

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Toronto (Ontario)

A photo opportunity and media availability will follow the announcement.
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Old September 30th, 2014, 01:47 AM   #6
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I believe this announcement will be regarding the tower south of the tracks only, but this is still fabulous news. I didn't expect to hear anything about this for a long time, but some are saying we could see shovels in the ground by Christmas.

Hopefully the office market will remain strong and all of the office proposals will go ahead sooner than expected. This really is a beautiful design.
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Union Station Office Tower Development to Feature New GO Bus Terminal

The provincial agency in charge of GO Transit has reached an agreement with Ivanhoé Cambridge that will involve moving the GO bus station to the south side of the train tracks from its current location north of the rail corridor, between Yonge and Bay Sts. Metrolinx has sold its property at 141 Bay St. to Ivanhoé Cambridge in exchange for a long-term lease at the base of an office development planned for the site at 45 Bay St., currently used as a parking lot. The development proposal for the southern site, submitted to the city on Monday, includes a new GO bus station and an office tower.

Plans also call for a public park to be built over the rail corridor, the first of its kind in Toronto. The completed development is expected to add 2.5 million square feet of office space to downtown. Earlier renderings showed a three-tower development extending to the north and south of the tracks. According to an August report on UrbanToronto.ca , it will also include underground parking and retail. Retail is not expected to be part of the first phase of development, however.

The office development on the north side of the tracks won’t be built until the new bus station is operating. Construction on a new terminal and tower is expected to begin next year and take about three years. The site, located across Bay St. from the Air Canada Centre and Union Station, will eventually connect directly with the PATH system and the rail terminal. Of the 2,061 bus trips GO runs each day, 631 go into the Union Station bus terminal, which opened in 2003. GO buses carry about 55,000 rides a day.
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So we can't expect the any movement on the tallest tower on the north side of the tracks till 2018.
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The two towers are the same height now, by the sounds of it the first tower is going up on spec and the second north nower will come in 2018 after the GO bus terminal is moved to its new home.

For the bus terminal, it looks like the intercity bus terminal at Bay and Dundas will finally be able to close as interregional bus services will be moving here, and GO will finally be able to use its double decker buses on downtown routes as they will no longer have to pass under the rail track underpasses, which hold height restrictions.







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The two towers are the same height now, by the sounds of it the first tower is going up on spec and the second north nower will come in 2018 after the GO bus terminal is moved to its new home.

For the bus terminal, it looks like the intercity bus terminal at Bay and Dundas will finally be able to close as interregional bus services will be moving here, and GO will finally be able to use its double decker buses on downtown routes as they will no longer have to pass under the rail track underpasses, which hold height restrictions.







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW8xRIT-6KA
Looks good except I wished they didnt scale back the garden over the tracks. It was much more grandiose in earlier renders and now it looks like a footbridge over the tracks.

And I wish they didnt reduce the heights of the building.
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Old September 30th, 2014, 08:10 PM   #11
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Wow, those are beautiful!
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http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/tran...n_the_sky.html


Toronto's newest park will be in the sky

A one-acre Skypark will connect two new office towers at the fourth floor as part of a complex on Bay St. at Lake Shore Blvd.


The park is part of a combined 250,000 square metre business complex and new GO bus terminal on Bay St. at Lake Shore Blvd. announced Tuesday.
By: Patty Winsa News reporter, Published on Tue Sep 30 2014

Toronto's newest public park won't be on the ground but in the sky.

The park is part of a combined 250,000-square-metre business complex and new GO bus terminal on Bay St. at Lake Shore Blvd. announced Tuesday.

The one-acre park will connect two new 48-storey office towers at the fourth floor that will be built to the north and south of the rail corridor. The complex will be linked to Union Station.

The design is still in the works but the so-called “Skypark” will be landscaped and will include a restaurant......


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Wow, those are beautiful!
Agreed! A stunning addition!
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253 meters.
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At 253 m, 45 Bay will look like the tallest building in the city in the traditional lake view of the skyline. ICE at 232 m is roughly as far south and appears tallest even though its only 7th tallest. Looks like we'll get a new peak to look at when on Centre Island.

It's neither here nor there at this point, but that 60 floor north tower must have been a super tall if this 48 floor south tower is 253 m. Hopefully office demand in 2017-2018 will be strong enough that they'll push the north tower back to 60 floors when the time comes.
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the north tower has been cut down to the same height (well, looks slightly taller, maybe 260 meters) as the south tower. And before you go blame city planning, this cut was made before the developer even filed an application. Technically they still haven't even filed one for the north tower. The cut is not some anti height brigade from City Hall, its the developer realizing that the amount of square footage in the tower doesn't make sense and then instead cutting it down to the same size as the other towers.

1.3 million square feet seems to be the latest trend in office construction size though, we now have 4 towers proposed at that size and another 1 on the way. Up until now most towers have been in the 800,000 range.
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Any news about this project.
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Now called Baypark centre
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I know 81 bay park have almost all approval since november.
So is there any news about it.This building will be incredible.
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