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Old June 26th, 2013, 08:05 PM   #2241
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That's interesting. Question: what's the likelihood of NZ using the B787-9 on its Auckland–Los Angeles service, which sees at least 15 weekly flights, if not more? It's one of Air New Zealand's premier routes, with one of its services extending further to serve London/Heathrow, now on a B77W.
You answered your own question. The 77W is their flagship and biggest plane now the 747s are leaving the fleet, they will use it on their premier routes. The 1st 5 787-9s will be 767 replacements and the rest of their order will be used for expansion to new routes in Asia.

When it comes to capacity the 787-9 will also be very similar to their 777-200ERs. The 787s will get 300 seats in total (Business: 35, Premium Economy: 30, Economy: 235), the 777-200ER have 304 seats. It's likely that in the future Air New Zealand will order more 787-9s (or -10s) to replace these 777s, but that's still far out since the 777s will all get a cabin overhaul next year.
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And the 1st delivery flight for BA has been loaded in flightaware.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW9152


LN111, G-ZBJB, British Airways

Scheduled to depart in 4 and a half hours.


Delivery stats:
BA: 1
June: 7
2013: 15
total: 64
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Old June 27th, 2013, 12:17 AM   #2243
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You answered your own question. The 77W is their flagship and biggest plane now the 747s are leaving the fleet, they will use it on their premier routes. The 1st 5 787-9s will be 767 replacements and the rest of their order will be used for expansion to new routes in Asia.

When it comes to capacity the 787-9 will also be very similar to their 777-200ERs. The 787s will get 300 seats in total (Business: 35, Premium Economy: 30, Economy: 235), the 777-200ER have 304 seats. It's likely that in the future Air New Zealand will order more 787-9s (or -10s) to replace these 777s, but that's still far out since the 777s will all get a cabin overhaul next year.
That's great. What I don't get, though, is that NZ also operates a 767 on its once-weekly Auckland-Rarotonga-Los Angeles service. And with the 763 to be retired soon once the 787s come in, would that mean that the route will be served with the 787 or a 772, thus asking the question if LAX will also get to see a 787 with Air New Zealand?
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Old June 27th, 2013, 12:29 AM   #2244
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Old June 27th, 2013, 03:20 AM   #2245
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Just got an email from ATW and they had an article about Hainan Airlines debuting their 787 on July 3rd between Beijing-Shanghai and Beijing-Haikou routes. So sometime between today and July 2nd we will see Hainan get their first 787. Does anyone have an update for BA's 787?
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Just got an email from ATW and they had an article about Hainan Airlines debuting their 787 on July 3rd between Beijing-Shanghai and Beijing-Haikou routes. So sometime between today and July 2nd we will see Hainan get their first 787. Does anyone have an update for BA's 787?
The first for BA should be departing PAE in about half an hour, tracking link a few post back.
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Old June 27th, 2013, 07:56 AM   #2247
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They changed the flightnumber into BAW787.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW787

It departed just over 2 hours ago.

It should arrive in Heathrow around 12:00.



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That's great. What I don't get, though, is that NZ also operates a 767 on its once-weekly Auckland-Rarotonga-Los Angeles service. And with the 763 to be retired soon once the 787s come in, would that mean that the route will be served with the 787 or a 772, thus asking the question if LAX will also get to see a 787 with Air New Zealand?
They only announced the routes that are in the article I posted, which routes the 787 will fly later on is something time will tell.
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Old June 27th, 2013, 09:18 AM   #2248
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B787 Dreamliner BA G-ZBJB delivery flight and tommorow the next

and the acceptance flight G-ZBJA
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Old June 27th, 2013, 05:05 PM   #2249
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First off. Congrats BA for finally getting the plane. They now can being the fleet renewal. BA has announced their first two routes for their 787. Here is the article.

BA reveals Boeing 787 launch routes: Toronto, New York/Newark

British Airways has chosen Toronto and Newark as launch routes for its first Boeing 787 services as the airline revs up its marketing machine ahead of the Dreamliner's official debut next week.

BA's London-Toronto Boeing 787 service will begin on September 1, with London-Newark following on October 1. BA says the Boeing 787 "will also be doing shorthaul flying to Stockholm" sometime after October 1.

The Dreamliner service will make its international inaugural on the daily BA93/92 service between London and Toronto, while the daily London-Newark BA187/186 flight will score the 787.

Travellers can book special launch fares on ba.com, with £787 (A$1300) return in World Traveller Plus premium economy from London to Toronto and Newark. Another £787 return will get you an upgrade to Club World business class.

The Dreamliners will also be rostered onto selected and as-yet-unannounced domestic and European routes prior to starting international flights.

Also released today was this 787 teaser including a few fleeting glimpses inside BA's Dreamliner.



The seating plan shows room for 214 passengers divided into the predictable mix of business, premium economy and economy – BA has joined other Boeing 787 airlines in dropping the first class cabin from the next-gen jetliner in order to focus on a cost-effective three-class layout.

Read: Boeing 787 customers drop first class



35 Club World business class seats sit at the pointy end in a new 'triple' configuration of 2-3-2.

That's followed by 25 World Traveller Plus premium economy seats laid out 2-3-2; and 154 World Traveller economy seats split 3-3-3.

Read: BA's Airbus A380 and Boeing 787 seatmaps

BA's 'Big Bang' launch

British Airways will take delivery of its first Boeing 787 in London today, with another expected to follow early next week, ahead of a worldwide media launch for both its Boeing 787 and Airbus A380 at London’s Heathrow Airport on Friday July 5.

The Boeing 787 and Airbus A380 are part of a ten-year A$8.2 billion upgrade to BA's long-distance fleet, which will include retiring the older and less fuel-efficient Boeing 747-400 jumbos.

"The 787 will become a mainstay of the British Airways fleet over the next few years" promises Willie Walsh, chief executive of BA parent IAG.

"This is the first of 24 that will arrive by 2017, and we have announced plans to convert further options for the aircraft into firm orders for delivery from 2017, including for the new larger 787-10 version."

Over the next 12 months, BA expects to take delivery of one new long-range aircraft every two weeks, including its 12 Airbus A380s and six additional Boeing 777-300ERs.

The Airbus A380 will begin from London to Los Angeles from October 15 and Hong Kong from November 15, and like the 787 will fly several routes closer to home in the lead-up to LAX.

Australian Business Traveller will be attending BA's Airbus A380 and Boeing 787 launch event in London as a guest of British Airways.
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The G-ZBJA went out on a C-3 flight under a Boeing flight number this morning, if it's going to be delivered later today it will probably be the 1st time that a 787 did a C flight on the same day as the delivery flight.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE450

From Charleston the LN 76, ZA431, B-2722 is currently doing a Customer flight.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE431


Later today the LN102, ZA576, EI-LNA, ILFC/Norwegian should also be delivered, but no flightplan has been scheduled yet. This will be the 1st delivery to both Norwegian and ILFC.
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Old June 28th, 2013, 07:13 PM   #2251
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Video footage of 787-9 with engines.
http://www.3news.co.nz/Long-awaited-...6/Default.aspx
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After the 1st 787-9 was loaded into final assembly Boeing had not yet loaded a new 787-8 until recently, they used the time do work on the 1st position of the production line.

The LN127, ZA563, ILFC/Aeromexico has now been loaded onto the main assembly line as the 1st 787 that will be put together with the new tools.



http://twitter.com/e_russell/status/...697409/photo/1


Because it has been more then a month since the previous 787-8 went into assembly the hall is almost empty. Except that they use it for some post assembly work on 2 other frames.


LN114 ZA452 G-ZBJC British Airways

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How bout them 787s? by DearEdward, on Flickr


and LN118 ZA540 CC-BBD LAN

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LAN 787 final assembly by DearEdward, on Flickr


The CC-BBD was supposed to be assembled in Charleston, but since this one will delivered earlier they changed the registry (this one was supposed to become the CC-BBE).


The empty hall also means that the 1st 787 for Jetstar has rolled out, it hasn't been photographed on the flightline yet so there's a big chance that it went straight into the paint hangar.


ps. No signs of any delivery flights tonight. The 1st for Norwegian apparently was delivered yesterday, but the ceremony will take place today and it will fly out tomorrow.
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Old June 29th, 2013, 09:34 AM   #2253
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Hainan B-2722 Customer flight:




http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...n/5797732/#125

Some photos from EMC by Matt Cawby:

LN20 ZA175 JA821J inside EMC with her engines awaiting installation.


LN21 ZA176 JA823J inside EMC. After repaint she has been rolled inside EMC again, for last works. This one should be delivered to JAL after LN105 ZA186 JA832J.
Further inside is LN28 ZA232 VT-ANC for Air India.



source: http://kpae.blogspot.com/2013/06/pai...d-june-28.html
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Old June 29th, 2013, 04:30 PM   #2254
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Good to see LN20 and LN21 again. We've seen the latter one at the fuel dock a few months ago.

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The empty hall also means that the 1st 787 for Jetstar has rolled out, it hasn't been photographed on the flightline yet so there's a big chance that it went straight into the paint hangar.
Jetstar LN123 is in 40-24:

http://paineairport.com/kpae6438.htm
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Here is an article about Norwegian Air Shuttle first 787 delivery.

Norwegian Air Shuttle takes delivery of first leased Boeing 787

Norwegian Air Shuttle has taken delivery of its first leased Boeing 787 from International Lease Finance Corp. (ILFC).

The aircraft was delivered to ILFC and Norwegian simultaneously Thursday. ILFC is the single largest customer for the Dreamliner with 74 on order.

Norwegian has eight 787s on order through lease agreements and direct deliveries. The carrier will use the 787s to service its new long-haul routes from Oslo and Stockholm to New York and Bangkok. In November, the airline also will operate the 787 to Fort Lauderdale from Oslo, Stockholm and Copenhagen.

Boeing is conducting a series of first 787 deliveries after the aircraft was released from a grounding order and a fix installed for its lithium ion battery system. The manufacturer continued to produce and store aircraft through the grounding, allowing it to quickly resume deliveries after the fix was approved.
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China Southern Updated their 787 July/August 2013 operations.

As per 29JUN13 GDS inventory display, China Southern has adjusted planned Boeing 787 domestic operation in July 2013. Latest changes as follow.

Guangzhou – Beijing
eff 05JUL13 Boeing 787 service on CZ3103/3100 will be replaced CZ3101/3102
eff 06JUL13 Boeing 787 service increases to 2 daily

CZ3101 CAN0800 – 1055PEK 787 D
CZ3113 CAN1700 – 2000PEK 787 D

CZ3102 PEK1230 – 1530CAN 787 D
CZ3114 PEK2130 – 0045+1CAN 787 D

Guangzhou – Shanghai Hongqiao Planned 2 daily Boeing 787 reservation will now begin from 05JUL13, instead of 06JUL13
CZ3523 CAN0800 – 1015SHA 787 D
CZ3503 CAN1600 – 1815SHA 787 D

CZ3524 SHA1145 – 1415CAN 787 D
CZ3504 SHA1945 – 2210CAN 787 D

China Southern’s Boeing 787 operational schedule has been extended till 31AUG13 inclusive, based on latest schedule changes. Planned Boeing 787 operation remains subject to change.
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Air India Resumes Australia Service with Boeing 787 from late-August 2013

After 16 years of service suspension, Air India from 29AUG13 returns to Australia market with Boeing 787 aircraft. Subject to Government Approval, the airline plans to operate 3 weekly Delhi – Melbourne – Sydney – Delhi and 4 weekly in opposite direction, starting 29AUG13. Reservation for Australia service opened on late-Friday 28JUN13 in the GDS (the airline has not yet open reservation on its own website).

Delhi – Sydney – Melbourne – Delhi eff 29AUG13 4 weekly
AI312 DEL1345 – 0630+1SYD0800+1 – 0935+1MEL 788 x357
AI311 SYD0800 – 0935MEL1050 – 1835DEL 788 x146

Delhi – Melbourne – Sydney – Delhi eff 30AUG13 3 weekly
AI312 DEL1300 – 0530+1MEL0700+1 – 0830+1SYD 788 357
AI311 MEL0700 – 0830SYD1000 – 1810DEL 788 146

Air India last operated service to Sydney in January 1991 with 1 weekly Delhi – Singapore – Sydney on board Boeing 747; Melbourne last served in April 1981. Perth was served until June 1997.

Welcome back Air India. We will have to see how this route competes with Emirates's A380s.
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Someone can tell me why RAM aircraft is parking here without engines ?

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Old June 29th, 2013, 07:04 PM   #2259
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I believe that one is LN17.
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LN17 means that it was the 17th built 787, so it's one of the terrible teens that are overweight and need a lot of post assembly rework. Boeing started the assembly of the 787s before the production of all the parts was up to standard, in the end 66 needed rework. The earlier it was assembled the more work is needed. There are still 16 planes that are undergoing or still have undergo the modification process, it could take until 2015 before all are ready for delivery.

RAM was supposed to get 2 of those early birds. But after all the delays RAM and Boeing agreed a new schedule where RAM will take delivery of their 1st 787 in late 2014, this one will be a newly build that is completely up to specification or even better.

The 787 in the picture will be sold to another airline. There are several that have said that they want to take these early birds, for a reduced price of course. It could go to Transaero, Lionair or Rwandair when the rework in the modification center is completed.
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