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Old July 26th, 2013, 02:52 PM   #2441
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Oven fire?? Can happen on any plane or anywhere else. It was quickly put under control.
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Old July 26th, 2013, 03:31 PM   #2442
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New to group

Hello, I'm new to the group. I live in Charleston SC and am a fan of the 787, especially because Boeing moved here a few years ago.

I will try and post pictures of the flight line often so you folks can see what's out there.

Lastly, someone asked in this forum why the Chinese planes delivered from CHS had to make a stop instead of flying non-stop to China. The answer to that question is because CHS has two runways, and the longer one is being rebuilt. That project is just about done, but for the past year or more all flights have been taking off from the shorter runway. This means the 787's can't carry enough fuel to make it to China because the extra weight wouldn't allow the use of the shorter runway.

I'm glad I found this group!
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Old July 26th, 2013, 04:02 PM   #2443
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Hello, I'm new to the group. I live in Charleston SC and am a fan of the 787, especially because Boeing moved here a few years ago.

I will try and post pictures of the flight line often so you folks can see what's out there.

Lastly, someone asked in this forum why the Chinese planes delivered from CHS had to make a stop instead of flying non-stop to China. The answer to that question is because CHS has two runways, and the longer one is being rebuilt. That project is just about done, but for the past year or more all flights have been taking off from the shorter runway. This means the 787's can't carry enough fuel to make it to China because the extra weight wouldn't allow the use of the shorter runway.

I'm glad I found this group!
Welcome to SSC. Thank you for the information.
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Old July 26th, 2013, 06:17 PM   #2444
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Delivery #70

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Old July 26th, 2013, 06:37 PM   #2445
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Qatar Airways grounds one 787, cites "minor" issue

DUBAI, July 26 (Reuters) - Qatar Airways said on Friday it had taken one of its 787 Dreamliners out of service following what it described as a "minor" technical issue, as pressure mounted on Boeing over possible new electrical problems with the advanced jet.

The airline and Boeing, the airplane's manufacturer, declined to give further details but industry sources said they were treating seriously reports that the aircraft had been grounded for days after smoke was seen near an electrical panel.

The 787 has suffered a spate of mishaps in recent weeks.

According to web-tracking service Flightaware, the aircraft, registered as A7-BCB, has not flown since Sunday, an unsually long downtime for a long-haul jet designed to save fuel bills.

Qatar Airways confirmed an aircraft had been taken out of service, but said no flights had been cancelled as a result.

"This is a minor issue for us, and not an incident, so we are not commenting," an airline spokeswoman said.

A spokeswoman for Boeing said, "We request that you channel all your enquiries to Qatar Airways."

Two people familar with the matter, asking not to be identified, said smoke had been reported near an electrical compartment while the jet was on the ground in Doha. A failure in a similar bay caused an fire during a test flight in 2010.

A fire-brigade supervisor in Doha said it did not have any record of an incident with an airport-related call last week.

India's aviation regulator said earlier it had started an investigation after an oven in a 787 operated by Air India overheated during a domestic flight, causing smoke.

There was no interruption to services.

Japan's ANA, which operates the world's biggest fleet of Dreamliners, also said on Friday it had found damage to the battery wiring on two 787 locator beacons.

Tests have been ordered on the beacons after a parked Ethiopian Airlines-owned 787 Dreamliner caught fire at London's Heathrow this month, causing extensive damage to the plane.

The global fleet of Dreamliners was grounded for three months earlier this year due to battery-related incidents.

Aviation experts say it is common for the reported number of incidents to rise when an aircraft is in the spotlight.

Aircraft regularly suffer glitches that go unreported and rarely pose a direct theat to safety.

However, aviation experts say U.S. and British authorities investigating the previous fires may seek to establish whether anything can be learned from a pattern of reported incidents connected in various ways to the jet's electrical systems.

Boeing Chief Executive Jim McNerney said this week he remained "highly confident" in the future of the 787 Dreamliner programme and the integrity of the company's newest airplane.

The 787 incorporates a raft of changes in the way passenger jets are designed, including greater use of electrical systems that save weight compared to older hydraulics. It is the first passenger jet built mainly from lightweight carbon-composites.
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Old July 26th, 2013, 06:53 PM   #2446
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Hello, I'm new to the group. I live in Charleston SC and am a fan of the 787, especially because Boeing moved here a few years ago.

I will try and post pictures of the flight line often so you folks can see what's out there.

Lastly, someone asked in this forum why the Chinese planes delivered from CHS had to make a stop instead of flying non-stop to China. The answer to that question is because CHS has two runways, and the longer one is being rebuilt. That project is just about done, but for the past year or more all flights have been taking off from the shorter runway. This means the 787's can't carry enough fuel to make it to China because the extra weight wouldn't allow the use of the shorter runway.

I'm glad I found this group!
Welcome to the group. Your info will be a big help to others who didn't get the luck or the blessing to have Boeing in your own back yard. Especially with the 787.
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Old July 26th, 2013, 09:05 PM   #2447
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Old July 27th, 2013, 12:54 AM   #2448
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FAA Questions Boeing Land Purchase in Charleston

http://www.postandcourier.com/articl...PC05/130729752

Here is a link to an article from the Tuesday Charleston Post & Courier that states the FAA has concerns about the land deal worked out between Boeing and the Charleston County Aviation Authority in March.

I don't know how familiar most are with this deal, but Boeing is trying to buy 320 acres adjacent to it's existing facilities from the Authority for $12.5M. Additionally, Boeing would have right of first refusal for an additional 488 acres, and seeks to work out an agreement for the 265 acres that their current campus occupies in a lease with the Authority.

As you can imagine, all of us locals are excited about the possible intentions Boeing has for the land!
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Old July 27th, 2013, 06:55 AM   #2449
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There is a production blog here: http://nyc787.blogspot.com and an useful table here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=2&output=html

Thanks buddy, hit me up if you know or find a similar 777 link. I've searched like crazy but I can't find one.
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Old July 27th, 2013, 08:19 AM   #2450
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Old July 27th, 2013, 08:33 AM   #2451
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United, ANA find pinched wires on 787 transmitter inspections after Ethiopian Airlines fire
27 July 2013
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Two airlines disclosed issues with the wiring on their Boeing 787's emergency transmitters, the same part of the plane that is getting close scrutiny after a parked jet burned earlier this month.

United Airlines said Friday that it found a pinched wire during an inspection of one of its six 787s. Earlier, Japan's All Nippon Airways found damage to wiring on two Boeing 787 locater beacons. It flies 20 of the jets.

The inspections were mandated by the Federal Aviation Administration for U.S. airlines after the tail of an Ethiopian Airlines 787 caught fire while parked at London's Heathrow airport earlier this month. U.K. investigators said the only thing in the tail section with enough power to fuel a fire like that was the emergency transmitter. That's a metal-cased, battery-operated radio the size of a loaf of bread that activates in a crash to help rescuers find a plane.

The FAA said last week it would require U.S. airlines to look for "proper wire routing and any signs of wire damage or pinching," and to check the transmitter's battery compartment for signs of heating or moisture. It issued a formal order on Thursday. The European Aviatoin Safety Agency issued its own order on Friday.

A wire could short-circuit if it's pinched by metal and the metal cuts through the wire's insulation, exposing the part that carries electricity.

United Continental Holdings Inc. spokesman Christen David said the transmitter with the pinched wire was removed and sent to its maker, Honeywell International Inc. Inspections were carried out without any impact on United's flight schedule, she said. That transmitter was replaced, and United has working transmitters on all of its 787s, she said.

Spokesmen for Honeywell International Inc. and Boeing Co. both declined to comment, citing the ongoing investigation.

So far, the FAA and European orders have only covered 787s. That's Boeing's newest plane, and only 68 have been delivered so far. But those particular transmitters are used on far more planes -- U.K. investigators said they've been installed on some 6,000 aircraft.

The fire at Heathrow happened just when Boeing was hoping to get the 787 out of the news. In January, smoldering lithium-ion batteries on two 787s prompted authorities to ground the plane for almost four months, forcing Boeing to redesign the batteries and their chargers.

The grounding was costly for the eight airlines that flew the 787 at the time. Polish officials have said that LOT Polish Airlines -- which is struggling and trying to reorganize its finances -- lost some $30 million from canceled flights alone.

On Wednesday, Boeing CEO Jim McNerney acknowledged that the grounding created "some instances where we had obligations to customers, and those have all been satisfied." A moment later he added, "We think they are all behind us now."

LOT disagreed on Friday. In a statement, it said its demands "have not been compensated in any form" by Boeing. A Boeing spokesman did not have an immediate response to LOT's assertion.

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Associated Press Writer Monika Scislowska in Warsaw contributed to this report.
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Old July 27th, 2013, 09:40 PM   #2453
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2 more pictures released by Boeing.

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Now THAT is a nice looking bird!!
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Old July 28th, 2013, 02:38 AM   #2455
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She looks great! I like the paint job a lot and cant wait to see it flying. Hope the 787-9 has better luck than it's earlier sibling.
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Old July 28th, 2013, 06:30 AM   #2456
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"This is a minor issue for us, and not an incident, so we are not commenting," an airline spokeswoman said.

A spokeswoman for Boeing said, "We request that you channel all your enquiries to Qatar Airways."
In other words, 'piss off'!
Not the best media strategy for a brand new plane struggling to create a market niche with the A350 still in development stages.
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In other words, 'piss off'!
Not the best media strategy for a brand new plane struggling to create a market niche with the A350 still in development stages.
Struggling to create a market niche? Almost 1000 orders says otherwise.
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Old July 28th, 2013, 10:21 AM   #2459
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And with 83 net orders and 58 commitments this year alone the problems don't seem to have any negative impact on the market.

And in this particular case it's actually Qatar Airways who are very unclear on what actually happened. They probably messed something up causing some issues with the plane that resulted in some smoke. Boeing just grands the wishes of Qatar to say nothing.
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Actually, there are people on FlyerTalk and AUSBT saying that they'll avoid the 787 for now. And it's understandable: needless to say, 787 operators are probably a little paranoid and no time conscious business traveler wants to be grounded.
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