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Old August 13th, 2013, 05:55 AM   #2561
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Try this website if you haven't been there yet: http://nyc787.blogspot.com/

From past production, it doesn't appear that there is any special "formula" for determining whether Charleston or Everett will produce certain customer frames. It all seems to be based upon timing alone. Some speculated when the Charleston plant opened that it would produce frames for European and Middle Eastern customers, while Everett would handle frames for customers in Asia. North American orders would be split. But so far, that hasn't been the case. I think once the 787-9 is certified, you might see more of a plan develop, but I am no expert whatsoever :-)
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Old August 13th, 2013, 06:49 AM   #2562
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Old August 13th, 2013, 10:16 AM   #2563
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Thank you Momo.

A 787 related question. How is the production allocated between Seattle and Charleston? Is it by customer, for example?
There is no allocation. Boeing can build wherever they need to. Right now Everett (Seattle) is making up all the shortcomings in Charleston production. The whole lack of aviation production experience in Charleston is kicking Boeing in the ass atm along with their global supply chain.
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Old August 13th, 2013, 10:56 PM   #2564
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There is no allocation. Boeing can build wherever they need to. Right now Everett (Seattle) is making up all the shortcomings in Charleston production. The whole lack of aviation production experience in Charleston is kicking Boeing in the ass atm along with their global supply chain.
As a Charleston resident, I take some offense to your response. Many of the Boeing engineers and managers who have transferred to Charleston have stated that the attitude and dedication of the employees here is superior to what they experienced in Everett. Just about all the planes that have had issues so far have been assembled in Everett, with the lone exception being the Air India plane that had the oven fire.

With all that said, you also need to remember some other things. Just about every plane assembled in Charleston has been for Air India or one of the Chinese carriers. I'm sure you know these airlines have been notoriously slow in taking airplanes. Faster production here in Charleston wouldn't do much good unless they start parking 787's at the Walmart across the interstate. Also, both Everett and Charleston modified their production lines recently while things were slowed working through the backlog caused by the grounding. If you look at the production on http://nyc787.blogspot.com/ you will see clear evidence of the slowdown at both facilities.

I'm pretty confident, based on information received, that Charleston will soon have TWO production lines up and going (the plant was built big enough for this). Incidentally, only the Charleston plant is big enough for manufacturing the 787-10. And if you need evidence of what the Boeing Brass thinks of Charleston, just look at all the land they are buying around the existing plant, the movement of an engineering center here, the movement of a consolidated IT center here, and the decision to build a new factory for manufacturing the 737MAX nacelles.

You all might think we're a bunch of ignorant folks down this way, but we have been manufacturing high tech products for worldwide companies such as Bosch, BMW, Mercedes Benz, and Freightliner (to name a few) and also have supplier plants that make components for the Gulfstream production facilities just across the river in Savannah GA.

I apologize for the tone of my post, but you struck a nerve.
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Old August 13th, 2013, 11:01 PM   #2565
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Way to go CHS787NERD! Some people are just full of themselves when it comes to posting on this site. Jetstar announced or hinted some training routes for their new 787s once they take delivery. Source AirlineReporter.com : As this will be Australia’s first 787 Dreamliner (and the first for the South Pacific region, although Air New Zealand is slated to launch the 787-9) there will be a period of certification and trials required before Jetstar can begin normal operations. No long-haul destinations have been announced as of yet, but they have decided that the aircraft will launch on some of the more popular domestic destinations (Sydney/Melbourne to Cairns/the Gold Coast) first to familiarize staff.
“This first aircraft will be our only 787 to fly domestically before joining our international network, providing a great window of opportunity for thousands of domestic travelers to experience the 787,” Mark Dal Pra, Jetstar Director of the 787 program.
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Old August 14th, 2013, 07:07 AM   #2566
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100 new jobs in Jetstar boost
14 August 2013
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business...-1226696265268

JETSTAR says 100 new skilled jobs will be created in Melbourne as the base for its new Boeing787 Dreamliner fleet.

The airline, which was founded at Victoria's Avalon Airport in 2003, said it was keen to continue its partnership with its home state.

The jobs will be created as part of a $100 million investment in new training and maintenance facilities to incorporate the Dreamliners into Jetstar's fleet.

Qantas said its budget offshoot airline expected to take delivery of its first Boeing 787 Dreamliner by the end of next month.

The aircraft will be trialled on domestic routes before being launched on Jetstar's long-haul flights to destinations including Hawaii, Phuket, Bali and Japan.

Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce said about 60 per cent of the new jobs would be engineering roles, with the rest made up of training positions, instructors and other specialist work.

Mr Joyce said the roles were more sustainable than the 685 maintenance jobs Qantas slashed at Avalon and Tullamarine in 2012.

He said the maintenance jobs were lost as advances in technology changed aircraft service needs, but the new skilled roles would not face similar pressures.

``These are hi-tech and highly skilled jobs,'' Mr Joyce said. ``The roles we have created here are sustainable, not jobs that unfortunately had to disappear because the technology moved forward.''

Mr Joyce said the 787 had a strong connection to Victoria, with parts of the aircraft manufactured at Boeing Aerostructures Australia's facility in Port Melbourne.

Premier Denis Napthine said the State Government had ``partnered'' with Jetstar to have the facilities based in Melbourne, but said the amount chipped in was commercially sensitive.

``To have Victoria recognised as the home of the 787 is great news,'' he said.

``This is a modest investment (from the state) for a great return.''

Qantas said specialised training facilities, including a 787 flight simulator and replica cabin interior, would be housed at the group's flight training centre in Airport West.

Jetstar chief Jayne Hrdlicka said 48 engineers and 10 pilots had already completed 787 training, with more staff currently going through the process.

She said the Dreamliner's fuel efficiency meant fares could be kept low, while larger windows, better cabin pressure and more luggage space would deliver an improved customer experience.
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Old August 14th, 2013, 06:50 PM   #2567
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All Nippon Airways, Japan Airlines check their Boeing 787 fleets for wiring problem
14 August 2013

TOKYO (AP) - All Nippon Airways and Japan Airlines said Wednesday they are checking their Boeing 787 fleets for wiring problems unrelated to battery defects that plagued the aircraft earlier this year.

ANA said the departure of a 787 plane was delayed over problem wiring for a system to put out engine fires.

ANA, which has 20 Boeing 787 jets, said the flight from Tokyo to Frankfurt departed after the part was exchanged.

Spokeswoman Masumi Oguchi said ANA found two similar problems while inspecting its other 787 Dreamliners.

Japan Airlines said a 787 headed to Helsinki returned for inspections, and its nine other 787s are being checked.

Dreamliner jets were grounded worldwide in January for lithium-ion batteries that overheated or caught fire. Flights resumed four months later after a revamped battery system was installed.
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Old August 15th, 2013, 09:56 AM   #2568
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The aerial picture of the Charleston Flightline.


https://twitter.com/QuinnEnglish/sta...33674617262080

High time for some deliveries.
So that middle roughly in the middle - does it have solar panels on the roof?
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Old August 15th, 2013, 01:17 PM   #2569
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Old August 15th, 2013, 01:54 PM   #2570
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So that middle roughly in the middle - does it have solar panels on the roof?
Yes, the main assembly plant has the largest solar panel installation in South Carolina.
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Old August 15th, 2013, 06:12 PM   #2571
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A B-1 flight is planned for LN114 ZA452, G-ZBJC the 3rd 787 for British Airways.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE452
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Old August 16th, 2013, 03:03 AM   #2572
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According to Matt Cawby's twitter LN90 ZA242 VT-ANN finally has been delivered to Air India.
https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/368127623680913408
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Old August 16th, 2013, 02:19 PM   #2573
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Well looks like deliveries are picking up again as LN115 ZA561 N961AM for Aeromexico should also deliver today.
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Old August 16th, 2013, 05:59 PM   #2574
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According to Matt Cawby's twitter LN90 ZA242 VT-ANN finally has been delivered to Air India.
https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/368127623680913408
There is a picture on Paine Field blog website of that at the delivery center. Does anyone know when AeroMexico's 787 will fly out to MEX?
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Old August 16th, 2013, 06:18 PM   #2575
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There is a picture on Paine Field blog website of that at the delivery center. Does anyone know when AeroMexico's 787 will fly out to MEX?
Looks like 12.10 PM;
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AMX8509
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Old August 16th, 2013, 06:50 PM   #2576
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And another delivery today.

LN106 ZA320 G-TUID TUI Travel (Thomson)
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM9431

Delivery stats for the last 2 days.
Air India: 8
AeroMexico: 1
Thomson: 4

August: 4
2013: 28
Total: 77
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Old August 16th, 2013, 10:30 PM   #2577
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Old August 16th, 2013, 11:22 PM   #2578
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The 1st for AeroMexico is on it's way to Mexico.
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Old August 17th, 2013, 12:35 AM   #2579
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Busy day in PAE:
ZA122 JA823A C1 (preceded by B3 earlier today):
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...030Z/KPAE/KMWH

ZA383 B-2732 C1 (preceded by B2 earlier today):
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...000Z/KPAE/KMWH

ZA577 EL-LNB B2:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...100Z/KPAE/KPAE

ZA320 G-TUID delivered:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/T...900Z/KPAE/EGCC
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Old August 17th, 2013, 06:52 AM   #2580
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Congrats to AeroMexico for their first Dream)liner delivery!
Looking forward to their 787 route assignment and hopefully I get to fly in this beautiful bird.
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