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Old October 3rd, 2013, 08:07 PM   #2841
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Old October 4th, 2013, 11:31 AM   #2843
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The 787-9 is such a big boy compare to its little brother the 787-8. I can't wait to see how the 787-10 will turn out.
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Old October 4th, 2013, 11:35 AM   #2844
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Can Somebody Please Access To Boeing's 787 Website And Share All The Photos Of Royal Brunei's 787 In Here

Link: http://www.newairplane.com/787/delivery/

Apparently .. I Cant Have An Access Into It via My Phone !
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Old October 4th, 2013, 02:15 PM   #2845
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Can Somebody Please Access To Boeing's 787 Website And Share All The Photos Of Royal Brunei's 787 In Here

Link: http://www.newairplane.com/787/delivery/

Apparently .. I Cant Have An Access Into It via My Phone !
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Old October 4th, 2013, 04:42 PM   #2846
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I think this makes every livery we saw so far come through the assembly line in the air now except RAM.
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Old October 4th, 2013, 06:28 PM   #2847
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Saw one from my office window today.
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Old October 4th, 2013, 07:55 PM   #2848
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The LN20 ZA175 JA821J Japan Airlines just took off on 1st flights
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE175


Here it's performing a taxi test yesterday.

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The LN43 A382 B-2727 China Southern Airlines is on it's 2nd flight after it restarted test flights last week.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE382
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Old October 4th, 2013, 07:58 PM   #2849
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JA821J just airborne for first flight:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...620Z/KPAE/KMWH

LN20 ZA175 JA821J is the very first frame built for JAL, and first of 2nd set of 787s airframes, with weight optimalization. This one unlucky bird was rolled out from FAL in late June 2010. After paint showed up for spotters at 7th July 2010



Later sitted on the flightline for few months:
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Japan Airlines Boeing 787 Dreamliner JA821J ZA175 by Jon Ostrower, on Flickr

After announcement of JAL 787s delivery schedule moved to storage in various places around PAE.

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Japan Airlines Boeing 787 Dreamliner JA821J ZA175 by Jon Ostrower, on Flickr

After nearly 2 years, finally some movement has been made. Early summer (late June or early July) 2012 moved to 40-24 position 4. Re-work slowly started...
In September 2012 moved to EMC, parked on outside position.

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Qatar Airways #62, Air India #32 and Japan Air Lines JA821J parked at PAE airport. by tipekusair, on Flickr

In November 2012 finally rolled inside EMC, for main part of huge amount of needed rework.
Spotted inside EMC 5th June 2013


With her engines awaiting installation, 28th June 2013


Repainted in August 2013, returned to EMC for last touches. Finally rolled out to fuel dock at 10th September 2013.


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Royal Brunai V8-DLA Boeing 787 by moonm, on Flickr

3rd October 2013 - taxi test:

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JAL JA821J Boeing 787-8 by moonm, on Flickr

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Today, 4th October 2013 finally in the air for first time. After 3 year and 3 months (39 months) since frame left main 787 final assembly line. This is first, and last JAL's Dreamliner which needed change incorporation/re-work process.

Source: Matt [email protected] http://kpae.blogspot.com/
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Old October 4th, 2013, 08:24 PM   #2850
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Old October 4th, 2013, 08:31 PM   #2851
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The LN43 A382 B-2727 China Southern Airlines is on it's 2nd flight after it restarted test flights last week.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE382
It's C1:
https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/386169583922466816

LN91 ZA243 VT-ANO finally delivered from Charleston:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...220Z/KCHS/EDDF

So it's clearly now why Boeing attempted B-1 flight for LN32 ZA235 VT-ANG yesterday.
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Old October 4th, 2013, 08:38 PM   #2852
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The 3rd this month, the 9th for Air India.

And with 3 deliveries from Charleston in a short period there are only 7 left on the flightline, with 2 more ready to go.
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Old October 4th, 2013, 09:57 PM   #2853
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And Charleston is free from Air India's frames for few months
1 more for Hainan, 2 more for China Southern left with 2 scheduled to enter FAL - 4 in total. I'm really courious if China Southern will take delivery of these 2 ready before LN154 ZA388 will be rolled from FAL.
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Old October 5th, 2013, 12:08 AM   #2854
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LN14 or LN22 for Transaero (I think LN14, it has been undergoing refurb outside since few months, LN22 moved to EMC outside stand in 2nd half of September)
Apparently LN14 is now inside the EMC, bay A.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=2&output=html
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Old October 5th, 2013, 12:34 AM   #2855
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Nice. So 2 terrible teens are now inside EMC. Only 1 for Transaero left in storage - LN12 ZA801 (former ZA501 for ANA).
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More on hydraulic leak in EMC last week hydraulic line in Air India 787 exploded according to source serious structural wing damage
https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/385817132220440576

It's probably about LN25 ZA230 VT-ANA. I dont think this will writte off frame, but re-work will be longer than VT-ANB. And again, it isn't rather big issue for Boeing deliveries schedule. 4 more 787s for Air India will be ready for delivery before, or even 5. Air India will take this frame probably in late 2nd half of 2014.
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Old October 5th, 2013, 02:50 AM   #2856
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And Charleston is free from Air India's frames for few months
1 more for Hainan, 2 more for China Southern left with 2 scheduled to enter FAL - 4 in total. I'm really courious if China Southern will take delivery of these 2 ready before LN154 ZA388 will be rolled from FAL.
Why shouldn't they.
Boeing's new plane website has update for the Royal Brunei 787 delivery. Not as interesting as other new deliveries highlights on the website. Just some Pictures. It is great to see another new airline getting their first 787. Can we expect any new customers this year after the Jetstar (Qantas) delivery that has occurred or will we have to wait for next year for new customer deliveries.
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Old October 5th, 2013, 03:41 AM   #2857
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The new China Southern livery is gorgeous!
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Sorry for popping your bubble this ain't a new livery is dedicated to the B787 only very similar to MH special A380 livery
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European budget long-haul gets a window of opportunity

OSLO, Oct 3 (Reuters) - Norwegian Air CEO Bjoern Kjos was on his way to Thailand last month to celebrate the opening of his budget airline base but instead got a lesson in why many low-cost carriers have failed in the long-haul market.

As mechanics beavered away to fix his brand new $212 million Boeing 787 Dreamliner, he watched the hours tick by, knowing he would miss the party in Bangkok.

Norwegian's first two Dreamliners broke down more than a dozen times in September, forcing it to lease planes or cancel flights. A full-service long-haul rival, typically part of a big alliance, could have called for back-up from its allies.

The Nordic carrier this year became the only European budget airline to take on long haul, arguing that the Dreamliner, with a 20 percent fuel saving, made it possible.

Others, including carriers who have made a success of low-cost long-haul in Asia, doubt the business model for Europe, and are waiting to see how the experiment turns out before following suit.

Even without direct low-cost competitors, it will be a stiff challenge.

"It takes more to succeed in the Champions League than in the local top league," says Per Arne Villadsen, the CEO of Berg-Hansen, a top Norwegian travel agency. "On (long-haul) overseas destinations the company faces an entirely different competitive situation; its largest competitors are well-functioning alliances, with each company holding an advantage in its home market."

Norwegian, Europe's third biggest budget airline, operates at a 44 percent lower cost than its biggest Nordic rival, SAS , but that advantage can be cut in half over longer flights because fuel is a much higher proportion of the cost.

The small size of its long-haul fleet - currently two, rising to eight - will also strip away some of its cost advantage, and while it might have stolen a march by hiring cheaper cabin staff from its Bangkok base, rivals can be expected to use similar tactics.

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Attempts to fly cheap long-haul routes date back to the 1970s, when Laker Airways flew from London to New York. It went bankrupt in 1982 when rivals cut fares and squeezed it out of the market.

Malaysia-based Air Asia X recently tried flying between Asia and Europe but gave up, arguing that the low-cost model cannot work until it gets more fuel efficient planes.

While the more fuel-efficient Dreamliner changes the economics, Norwegian's early advantage will evaporate as rivals get their own, or the Airbus A350.

"Eventually the Airbus A350 will come with similar fuel consumption, so in five to six years everybody will have the planes with similar operating capabilities," says Kenneth Sivertsen, an airline analysts at Arctic Securities in Oslo.

Qantas unit Jetstar, arguably the most successful budget carrier in long haul, will get the first of its Dreamliners this year and has already signalled plans to fly to Europe from Asia. Within Asia, budget long-haul has gained traction as flight distances are shorter, crew costs are lower and the overall market is growing much faster, giving newcomers a chance to quickly carve out market share.

Still, Norwegian won't face a low-cost challenger in the Nordic market for years, and SAS, which is struggling to complete another round of restructuring, doesn't get its A350s until 2018.

"We have a four to five year lead on the rest of the pack," Norwegian CEO Kjos says. "That's the timeframe we envisage that we can build up a strong operation on long haul."

Kjos dismissed doubts about the business model, saying he believed in it even more now, because the Dreamliner's operating costs were actually less than advertised, and the reliability issue was temporary.

"Oh, 99 percent of the people said the exact same thing when low-cost airlines started flying short-haul," Kjos said. "They said Ryanair and EasyJet were a joke. Now the low-cost carriers have 50 percent of the market in Europe."

Compared with full-service carriers, some of Norwegian's advantages will persist even after its head start has been clawed back; Norwegian will fly Dreamliners up to 18 hours a day, 50 percent more than rivals, it will opt for cheaper landing slots, and its operations will remain leaner.

Norwegian is now offering round trip tickets to Bangkok for next month as low as $580, well below prevailing fares of $1,200 for Thai Airways and $1,400 for SAS. Its long-haul planes are currently flying 98 percent full, analysts say, well above expectations for 90 percent.

There will be further cost savings when its other six 787s are in service by 2015.

Some say that is still far too few.

Michael O'Leary, the CEO of Ryanair, Europe's biggest budget airline, recently said flying long-haul with two to six planes made no sense. He thinks 30-50 are needed.

Investors seem to be siding with Kjos. The stock is up 105 percent in the past 12 months, outperforming a 22 percent rise in the travel and leisure sector index. Over the past month it has held steady, despite headlines about its Dreamliner troubles.

"Norwegian is clearly increasing the risk with long haul, but investors pay management to take calculated risks," Arctic Securities' Sivertsen said. "I don't think it's time yet to question the model."
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Sorry for popping your bubble this ain't a new livery is dedicated to the B787 only very similar to MH special A380 livery
And that's what I would term as a 'letdown'. That new livery is quite lively compared to what they currently offer. You have to admit that it's quite unprecedented to have certain (new) planes have a different color scheme from the main fleet. Either way, I still love the 787 livery.
P.S Quite hard to find an airline commit to two very different liveries as a brand. I also understand that United is struggling with committing their entire fleet to the new livery even though it runs parallel to their new marketing strategy.
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