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Old October 14th, 2013, 02:15 PM   #2901
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Air India Expands Boeing 787 International Service from mid-October 2013

Air India in October 2013 expanding Boeing 787 International operation, which sees the Dreamliner once again operates service to Dubai, while begin operation to Far East Asia.

eff 11OCT13 Delhi – Dubai Boeing 787 replaces A320/321, 1 daily (Boeing 787 once again operates this route)
AI995 DEL2040 – 2240DXB 788 D
AI996 DXB0005 – 0445DEL 788 D

eff 15OCT13 Delhi – Hong Kong – Seoul Incheon Boeing 787 replaces 777-200LR, 4 weekly
AI310 DEL2315 – 0630+1HKG0745+1 – 1205+1ICN 788 x135
AI317 ICN1350 – 1635HKG1800 – 2135DEL 788 x135

eff 16OCT13 Delhi – Hong Kong – Osaka Kansai Boeing 787 replaces 777-200LR, 3 weekly
AI314 DEL2315 – 0630+1HKG0745+1 – 1205+1KIX 788 135
AI315 KIX1325 – 1635HKG1800 – 2135DEL 788 246

Boeing 787 service on routes listed above will continue to operate on/after 27OCT13.
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Old October 14th, 2013, 02:38 PM   #2902
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Air India Expands Boeing 787 International Service from mid-October 2013

Air India in October 2013 expanding Boeing 787 International operation, which sees the Dreamliner once again operates service to Dubai, while begin operation to Far East Asia.

eff 11OCT13 Delhi – Dubai Boeing 787 replaces A320/321, 1 daily (Boeing 787 once again operates this route)
AI995 DEL2040 – 2240DXB 788 D
AI996 DXB0005 – 0445DEL 788 D

eff 15OCT13 Delhi – Hong Kong – Seoul Incheon Boeing 787 replaces 777-200LR, 4 weekly
AI310 DEL2315 – 0630+1HKG0745+1 – 1205+1ICN 788 x135
AI317 ICN1350 – 1635HKG1800 – 2135DEL 788 x135

eff 16OCT13 Delhi – Hong Kong – Osaka Kansai Boeing 787 replaces 777-200LR, 3 weekly
AI314 DEL2315 – 0630+1HKG0745+1 – 1205+1KIX 788 135
AI315 KIX1325 – 1635HKG1800 – 2135DEL 788 246

Boeing 787 service on routes listed above will continue to operate on/after 27OCT13.
With the EY B772LR deal pretty much in the bag these changes will more than likely be permanent
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Old October 14th, 2013, 03:00 PM   #2903
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No wonder those 77L was not profitable looking at those routes.
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Old October 14th, 2013, 07:16 PM   #2904
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Old October 15th, 2013, 05:28 AM   #2905
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Can someone name all of the airlines that have 787 in their airline and there routes, also for proposals too?
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Old October 15th, 2013, 07:43 AM   #2906
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Can someone name all of the airlines that have 787 in their airline and there routes, also for proposals too?
For current and future B787 route information, try http://airlineroute.net/2013/07/01/787current/
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Old October 16th, 2013, 12:14 AM   #2907
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Approximately how long it takes for the first airframe of an airline, say Avianca for example, from the moment the part star to arrive at the FAL and the moment it's delivered?
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Old October 16th, 2013, 12:41 AM   #2908
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It could still be delivered this month. The 1st one had it's first flight on 14 Sep. and was contractually delivered on the last day of September. So if the 2nd will have it's 1st flight in the next 3 days it could still be delivered in October, otherwise it will be November.

They are also expecting the 3rd one this year, but that will be tight schedule since that one is still in assembly. It should roll out in the 1st half of November, so it's doable. Although the last couple of month the average between roll-out and delivery was longer then 2 months, but that was mostly because of the large delivery backlog after the grounding. That should go faster by now, the 1st delivered to Brunei was just under 1.5 months after roll-out.
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Approximately how long it takes for the first airframe of an airline, say Avianca for example, from the moment the part star to arrive at the FAL and the moment it's delivered?
Boeing is still fine tuning the timing. Due to the grounding and getting all those planes delivered that were built pre grounding and during the grounding. The Royal Brunei was built post grounding and that was 1.5 months from FAL roll out to delivery. So add about two weeks for assembly in the building and you have about two months. So the pace will definitely be picking up as this year ends and into next year. Also depends on location either PAE or CHS assembly line. CHS is finally delivering there planes and should be opening more spots on the flight line for new planes that are coming off the assembly line.
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Old October 16th, 2013, 12:51 AM   #2909
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Here is your answer.

Boeing is still fine tuning the timing. Due to the grounding and getting all those planes delivered that were built pre grounding and during the grounding. The Royal Brunei was built post grounding and that was 1.5 months from FAL roll out to delivery. So add about two weeks for assembly in the building and you have about two months. So the pace will definitely be picking up as this year ends and into next year. Also depends on location either PAE or CHS assembly line. CHS is finally delivering there planes and should be opening more spots on the flight line for new planes that are coming off the assembly line.
Thank you very much for your answer.
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Old October 16th, 2013, 01:16 AM   #2910
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So add about two weeks for assembly in the building and you have about two months.
More like 6 weeks, plus 1 week for painting.

I believe it took the Royal Brunei bird 93 days (3 months) from FAL start to delivery.
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Old October 16th, 2013, 01:20 AM   #2911
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Anyone else thing the -8 looks a bit, um, stubby?
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Old October 16th, 2013, 02:12 AM   #2912
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En route to Bangalore, part of Boeing 787 Dreamliner fell off
A large panel fell off an Air India Dreamliner, which was on its way from Delhi to Bangalore on Saturday. Sources in the civil aviation regulator or DGCA have said that the panel was fitted on the side of the fuselage and not under the belly as some earlier reports suggested.

The sources also said that the incident happened while landing at the Bangalore airport and not mid-air. They say though there was no danger to passenger safety, the panel should not have come off.

The plane with 150 passengers landed safely in Bangalore. Apart from the DGCA, Dreamliner's maker Boeing will also conduct an enquiry to check what caused the panel to come off, sources said.
Continues http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/en...7?site=classic
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Old October 16th, 2013, 10:19 AM   #2913
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Old October 16th, 2013, 12:12 PM   #2914
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Who reckons the Captain on the end is really thinking...get your hand off me !!!!!!!
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Old October 16th, 2013, 12:30 PM   #2915
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I think he's like why isn't one of those stewardesses standing next to me instead.


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That whole Air India incident with the fallen panel is a bit of a mistery. There's lots of conflicting and wrong information out there. According to Boeing something did happen though and they are working with Air India to see what happened. The panel that fell off during the approach to Bangalore was covering an area where the A/C packs are located. That makes it more likely that the panel wasn't fastened as it should after maintanance. We'll probably never know because it's Air India.

Air India did secure bridge financing for another batch of 12 787s (or 12 in total including the 8 that have been delivered, it's a bit unclear), there should not be any financial reason why they would not take a couple this month. The 777-200LR has probably also helped securing this financing deal.
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Old October 16th, 2013, 02:17 PM   #2916
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Well it seems to me that an airline that can't buy planes without having to get a loan every time they get a delivery is bound to have maintenance problems. They are short on cash it seems like every time delivery comes around. Why don't they halt the deliveries or sell the slots to another airline and get a plan to develop a maintenance plan. Every week its like we hear about a problem with one of their planes.
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Old October 16th, 2013, 08:48 PM   #2917
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Well it seems to me that an airline that can't buy planes without having to get a loan every time they get a delivery is bound to have maintenance problems. They are short on cash it seems like every time delivery comes around. Why don't they halt the deliveries or sell the slots to another airline and get a plan to develop a maintenance plan. Every week its like we hear about a problem with one of their planes.
Based upon statements from Air India in news articles I've read, they believe the 787 is KEY to returning the airline to profitability. If that's the case, they definitely won't give up their production slots. As far as any maintenance issues, keep in mind the Indian government is currently the majority owner. I would imagine they are cutting costs anywhere they see fit.
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Old October 16th, 2013, 10:04 PM   #2918
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Indian government involvement means more corruption and inefficiency. Not less.
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Old October 17th, 2013, 02:18 AM   #2919
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Indian government involvement means more corruption and inefficiency. Not less.
That is the point I was trying to make by saying they will cut costs wherever they see fit, meaning that they have no regard for how to properly run an airline or maintain an aircraft fleet.
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