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Old December 10th, 2013, 03:55 AM   #3101
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So when can we expect to hear new 787-9 routes from ANA? Are those slots new slots that they got recently? Great to hear new 787 routes.
For the B787-9, probably by next year or by 2015. And I believe those new flights come as a result of new slots granted by Haneda Airport and the MLIT to expand international operations out of the airport, not to mention new air agreements with other countries, especially in Southeast Asia.
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Old December 10th, 2013, 03:57 AM   #3102
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LN132 ZA515 JA824A in PDX:
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Old December 10th, 2013, 02:47 PM   #3103
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British Airways Spreads Its Wings In 2014

The 787s will next launch on services to Hyderabad from March 30, Chengdu from May 5, Philadelphia from June 5 and Calgary from July 5, 2014.

Just a small piece of the press release.
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Old December 10th, 2013, 03:21 PM   #3104
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British Airways Spreads Its Wings In 2014

The 787s will next launch on services to Hyderabad from March 30, Chengdu from May 5, Philadelphia from June 5 and Calgary from July 5, 2014.

Just a small piece of the press release.
Are all of these existing routes operated by different aircraft or are any of them brand new routes?
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Old December 10th, 2013, 10:26 PM   #3105
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Are all of these existing routes operated by different aircraft or are any of them brand new routes?
They are all current routes replacing 767s or 777s.

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http://airlineroute.net/2013/12/10/ba-lhr-s14update2/
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Old December 11th, 2013, 12:48 AM   #3106
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Old December 11th, 2013, 02:38 AM   #3107
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Around 22nd December.

Meanwhile LN132 ZA515 JA824A for ANA is flying to PDX for painting. I don't know what is going on with LN129 ZA469 A7-BCH for Qatar, it stuck in FTW for few weeks.
The last Qatar plane from CHS painted in Ft. Worth had to return and be repainted because it didn't meet Qatar's standards. Word is that Boeing will be announcing they're building a paint facility on the CHS campus soon, so maybe they are fed up enough with the quality of Ft. Worth and will just paint the planes at PDX until the new facility comes online?
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Old December 11th, 2013, 08:50 AM   #3108
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If that's true, that's really embarrassing for Boeing. Sheesh! I guess you get what you paid for...
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Old December 11th, 2013, 09:01 AM   #3109
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Ureshs has got different informations:
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Mishap with L/N 154 mid body fuselage section forces Boeing to re-shuffle final assembly order at Charleston
According to sources, a mishap while assembling the mid body fuselage for ZA388 (L/N 154) for China Southern Airlines forced Boeing to re-shuffle the firing order at Boeing Charleston. Details are unknown but the mishap, which took place in building 88-20, caused extensive damage to the mid body fuselage section. The damage was severe enough that Boeing had to pull manufacturing techs from the final assembly line to help with the re-work with many technicians putting in overtime to get this fuselage section completed. This airplane was scheduled to start final assembly during the 3rd week of November but it was pushed back to the first week of December. Boeing, however, was unable to complete the re-work in time and forced the re-shuffling of the final assembly order.

Currently, ZA 244 (L/N 158, VT-ANP) for Air India is loaded in position 1 in 88-30 while the re-work in 88-20 continues and is expected to be completed shortly.

After inspection and review of all the re-work on mid body for L/N 154, it should enter final assembly later this month.

Boeing integrates different fuselage sections built in Japan and Italy into one large main fuselage section in the 88-20 building.

This incident also has played havoc with Boeing's 787 final assembly schedule for Charleston as the final assembly of follow 787 in Charleston had to be pushed back. Subsequently, Boeing MTs in Charleston may have to put in overtime in order to make up the lost time and get the schedule back on track.

Lastly, Boeing did fly a 787 out of Charleston to be painted. While Boeing regularly does this, the difference was the aircraft was flown to Portland, OR where the company does have paint facilities and not to Ft. Worth. It was pointed out by a reader that this may be due to the severe winter weather being experienced in Texas. Boeing has a contract with Leading Edge Completions of Ft. Worth, Tx. to paint all Charleston built 787s. There still is one 787 (ZA469, L/N 129, A7-BCH) for Qatar Airways at Leading Edge which flew there three weeks ago. Either the weather has delayed its return or there was some issue with the paint job that Qatar objected to or there was technical issue with the aircraft itself.
http://nyc787.blogspot.com/2013/12/m...-fuselage.html

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http://kpae.blogspot.com/2013/12/pai...cember-10.html
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Old December 11th, 2013, 09:58 AM   #3110
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Untitled (Boeing) Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner
Seattle - Boeing Field / King County International (BFI / KBFI) USA - Washington, November 19, 2013
N789ZB (cn 41990/139) The third 787-9 (and first with GE engines) landing at BFI after its second flight (the first was earlier the same day from KPAE to KMWH).
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Old December 12th, 2013, 11:34 AM   #3111
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Earlier few people raised this question comparing the capabilities of 787 Dreamliner vs Air bus 380

I have found and Interesting article comparing Cockpits of 787 and 380

Check this comparison of two Giants who have gone toe-to-toe, you will find some interesting points


Here is the Comparison -

http://www.aerospace-technology.com/...t-comparisons/




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Old December 12th, 2013, 05:28 PM   #3112
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Thomson Airways add new flights from Glasgow to Jamaica
12 December 2013

Thomson Airways have announced plans to launch Scotland’s only direct flights to the tropical
Caribbean Island of Jamaica.

From December 2014 the airline will offer weekly flights direct from Glasgow International
Airport to Montego Bay. The new route to Jamaica will operate every Tuesday with the first
flight departing on 23 December 2014.

Montego Bay will become Thomson Airways sixth route from Glasgow International Airport to
be operated by the brand-new, state-of-the-art, Boeing 787 Dreamliner. Thomson Airways
already use the aircraft to fly from Glasgow to Cancun and Orlando and will, during 2014,
begin operating the aircraft on flights to Barbados, Punta Cana and Sharm El Sheikh.

The Boeing 787 Dreamliner operated its first ever transatlantic flight in July and has since
proved very popular with passengers. Almost 300 passengers flew on the inaugural flight
from Glasgow to Cancun and 97 per cent of passengers rated their experience as 'excellent'
or 'good.'

Paul Cooper, airport negotiations manager for Thomson and First Choice, said: “Adding the extra capacity and the introduction of the Thomson 787 Dreamliner demonstrates the importance of Glasgow International Airport and the local area to our business, and following the success of similar routes from the airport, we know that the demand is there.

“Expanding access to our portfolio of destinations and hotels is a key part of our overall strategy. We hope that this move will enhance the holiday experience for our customers and that they are as excited as we are about the new 787 Dreamliner.”

Thomson flights and holidays from Glasgow can be booked now at thomson.co.uk.



http://www.airglasgow.com/news0024.html
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Old December 12th, 2013, 11:17 PM   #3113
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British Airways has firmed up their order for 12 787-10s and 6 787-9s.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm


The brings the orders total to 1030, and the net orders for this year to 182.
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Old December 13th, 2013, 01:51 AM   #3114
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British Airways has firmed up their order for 12 787-10s and 6 787-9s.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm


The brings the orders total to 1030, and the net orders for this year to 182.
Rumor has it ...it would take Boeing 1,000 787 sold to make a profit on the plane. So ....1030 means they are making money now!
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If the rumor about breakeven in 2015 is true (350-360, even after 400 deliveries), then Boeing will get net profit of 787 program much faster than after 1000 deliveries. 789 test program is going smooth, frame is overmatching specification and Boeing can make good money from 789 early frames, they don't need 103 frames to match weight spec, they got it now. Current 788 production frames match specification too and there aren't much problems with deliveries.
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If the rumor about breakeven in 2015 is true (350-360, even after 400 deliveries), then Boeing will get net profit of 787 program much faster than after 1000 deliveries. 789 test program is going smooth, frame is overmatching specification and Boeing can make good money from 789 early frames, they don't need 103 frames to match weight spec, they got it now. Current 788 production frames match specification too and there aren't much problems with deliveries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwsboOHBUhc

I watched this and thats where i got the 1,000 787 sold to make a profit. So you could be right.
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Old December 13th, 2013, 03:23 AM   #3117
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I know this, but this is video from 2011, when things were much, much different.
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Old December 13th, 2013, 04:47 AM   #3118
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I know this, but this is video from 2011, when things were much, much different.
Im sorry .....you are right. I accidently looked at the date the video was uploaded. which was Jan 19, 2013.

my bad
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Old December 13th, 2013, 08:41 AM   #3119
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Boeing raised the accounting block, = the number of 787s that have to be delivered to reach the break even point for the whole program to 1,300 earlier this year, in 2011 this might still have been 1,000. Basically it's an accounting method in which the total costs are spread out over a longer period. The development costs and the production ramp up coupled with the strong sales this year made Boeing confident enough to do this even though it means that it will take longer for the total program to become profitable.

But to reach this break even point Boeing will need to start to make a profit on single deliveries much earlier, and that should happen in 2015.



And since it's not about orders but about deliveries I use this little bridge to the 3rd delivery of the month. The 2nd 787 for Jetstar.

LN134 ZA216 VH-VKB QANTAS/Jetstar

https://twitter.com/JetstarNews/stat...08795504369664


It's also rumored that China Southern will take 3 more deliveries this month, it could become quite an order rush especially compared to last month.
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Old December 14th, 2013, 06:06 PM   #3120
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