daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Airports and Aviation

Airports and Aviation » Airports | Photos and Videos



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old January 7th, 2014, 08:48 PM   #3221
XWB
Too low - terrain
 
XWB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 408
Likes (Received): 441

Quote:
I actually don't know if it was actually painted in Ft. Worth, I haven't seen any pictures of it
Spotters in PDX will be waiting for her, we will find out soon.
XWB no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old January 7th, 2014, 09:59 PM   #3222
bozenBDJ
the World Trade Center
 
bozenBDJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: BDJ, ID-KS
Posts: 23,631
Likes (Received): 9721

Hainan Airlines / Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner / B-2728 (cn 34938/73) HU498 enroute ORD-PEK
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Haina...iner/2374281/L

bozenBDJ no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 7th, 2014, 11:44 PM   #3223
PiotrG
庶民サンプル
 
PiotrG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: 第2PRL
Posts: 10,259

Quote:
Originally Posted by Momo1435 View Post
If that was the case they would have done it together with the firming up of their 747-8Is in December.

And they got 2 more in the EMC right now, which would have been pulled out straight away if the deal was off.
And they spoke rather positive, when Boeing annouced that Transaero will take 4 terrible teens. LN22 is just waiting for it's sweet time inside, EMC has its own schedule. I'm sure that after roll out of ZB197 to flightline, LN22 will be moved inside with next one terrible teen from RWY11-29
PiotrG no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 8th, 2014, 12:05 AM   #3224
fieldsofdreams
PH + SF Super Moderator
 
fieldsofdreams's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Manila • San Francisco
Posts: 18,825
Likes (Received): 11258

Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesinclair View Post
Is there any chance any US airline would operate this plane domestically in the next 2 years?

Or are the 737/757/767 good enough for transcontinentals?
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHS787NERD View Post
Keep in mind that the longer the route they fly the 787, the more money the airline saves. Also factoring in is the size, age, and efficiency of the aircraft the 787 would replace on the route. So for US carriers to squeeze the most profitability out of the 787, they will most likely put them on international flights replacing much older Boeing & Airbus wide-body planes with similar passenger loads.

For domestic flights that are currently served by older narrow-body aircraft, it makes more economic sense for US carriers to buy 737's because they would be more efficient than what they fly currently, they would cost millions less, and they most likely would be delivered sooner.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesinclair View Post
I wonder if something like New York to Honolulu direct makes sense.
As of right now, United Airlines is the only one operating the B787 within the United States (domestically), with all of its operations coming out of its largest hub in Houston at the moment. Soon, UA will also operate the Dreamliner on the IAH—SFO service in preparation for downgrading the SFO—KIX flight from a B772 to a B788 (not to mention that it will use the same aircraft type on a new service to Chendgu in western China). As for a Hawaii—East Coast service on the B787, it is a huge possibility, especially that as of the moment, the airline uses the B763, B764, and B772 types to ORD, IAD, and EWR.
__________________
Anthony or FOD the MOD • Urban Studies & Planning, SF State, UC Berkeley, and San Jose State
Philippine ForumsSF Bay Area ForumsBay Area TransitNEW! SF Bay Area and NorCal in Pictures
Photo Albums: FlickrPhotobucketInstagram

Rohnert Park • Rio Vista • Richmond • Redwood City • Portola Valley • Pleasanton • Pleasant Hill
fieldsofdreams no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 8th, 2014, 05:31 AM   #3225
PiotrG
庶民サンプル
 
PiotrG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: 第2PRL
Posts: 10,259

LN129 ZA469 A7-BCH at PDX, arrived for repaint. CHS schedule is probably incredible messed up because all this problems with paint facility in FTW.
image hosted on flickr


One of early frames was moved from storage on the RWY11-29 to change-incorporation. It's probably LN13, former ZA502 for ANA, which will be 1st 787 for Lion Air.
06.01.2014
image hosted on flickr


07.01.2014:
image hosted on flickr
__________________

EK413, Equario, mc101, Battuta liked this post
PiotrG no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 8th, 2014, 11:14 PM   #3226
XWB
Too low - terrain
 
XWB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 408
Likes (Received): 441

Quote:
One of early frames was moved from storage on the RWY11-29 to change-incorporation. It's probably LN13, former ZA502 for ANA, which will be 1st 787 for Lion Air.
It seems it was LN18.

http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/421023453312221184
XWB no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 8th, 2014, 11:24 PM   #3227
GTR66
GTR66
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 1,274
Likes (Received): 312

The second 787 (first commercial variant) delivery of the year went to Japan Airlines. registration is JA833J.
GTR66 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 8th, 2014, 11:38 PM   #3228
XWB
Too low - terrain
 
XWB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 408
Likes (Received): 441

Delivery flight only, JA833J was delivered in December 2013.
XWB no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 9th, 2014, 11:02 AM   #3229
PiotrG
庶民サンプル
 
PiotrG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: 第2PRL
Posts: 10,259

Quote:
Originally Posted by XWB View Post
LN18 (former ZA505 for ANA) outside EMC. 8th January 2014:


LN151 ZA436 B-2739 for Hainan is being rolled out from 40-26 to flightline. It's going to be familiar on the Everett flightline again, 3 frames for Air India, 1 for Hainan. Not long after Boeing finally cleared backlog of these carriers.
The blue tail in the background is LN161 ZA275 SP-LRF for LOT Polish Airlines, but it can be possibly painted in Turkish livery



source: http://kpae.blogspot.com/2014/01/pai...january-8.html
PiotrG no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 9th, 2014, 12:03 PM   #3230
Momo1435
-----アンジュルム-----
 
Momo1435's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: アルフェナンデンライン
Posts: 35,264
Likes (Received): 63121

That last picture shows the new assembly line lay-out.

There used to be 4 positions, #1 in the back with the body and wing join and #4 at the front of the picture where the last work is done before the roll-out.

Now there are 5 positions, the LOT frame is in the new position 1, which a turned position and the Hainan 787 that is rolled out is in position 5. The same will be done on the 40-24 surge line, which goes from 3 positions to 5 positions. It was already done at the Charleston line.

The extra positions make it possible to work on more frames at the same time which is needed for the assembly rate increase which will now be fully implemented with a possible total of 11 787s that will be loaded into the 3 assembly lines.


The LOT will indeed be interesting to watch, as part of the financial restructuring program of the airline they can't open new intercontinental routes right now. Therefor any newly delivered 787 cannot be used effectively, they still have decided to take delivery and will probably lease out these 787s as long as necessary. They are already have placed 1 787 at Finnair on a wet-lease basis during the winter season which is traditionally the low season especially on the Poland – North America routes. For the next new deliveries Turkish is in the picture to lease them from LOT. Which is interesting since Turkish has not placed an order for the next generation long haul planes. It could be a good experience for them as a try-out for the 787 and place an order when it’s works for them. On the other hand, if the 787 reliability issues play up to much it could push them towards the A350.

It will indeed be interesting if they will be painted in a Turkish livery, I have my doubts but it could be possible.
__________________
Support your Idols
キタ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ฅ(๑⊙д⊙๑)ฅ!! ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━!!!
Japan Projects & Construction

fieldsofdreams, Zaz965 liked this post
Momo1435 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 9th, 2014, 12:19 PM   #3231
PiotrG
庶民サンプル
 
PiotrG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: 第2PRL
Posts: 10,259

LN132 ZA515 JA824A delivered from CHS.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...600Z/KCHS/KSEA
image hosted on flickr



Quote:
It will indeed be interesting if they will be painted in a Turkish livery, I have my doubts but it could be possible.
Rumors says that frame will have polish reg SP-LRF, but will be painted in Turkish Airlines livery.

Last edited by PiotrG; January 10th, 2014 at 09:42 PM.
PiotrG no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 9th, 2014, 02:31 PM   #3232
Pedro EM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 336
Likes (Received): 51

Wouldn't it make sense for LOT SP-LRF to be painted in a Star Alliance livery??
Pedro EM no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 9th, 2014, 02:43 PM   #3233
EK413
Registered User
 
EK413's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,891
Likes (Received): 1895

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro EM View Post
Wouldn't it make sense for LOT SP-LRF to be painted in a Star Alliance livery??
I'll love to see the aircraft sporting TK livery but makes far more sense in St*r Alliance scheme.
__________________
EK413
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We are tonight’s entertainment!
EK413 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 9th, 2014, 03:05 PM   #3234
Pedro EM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 336
Likes (Received): 51

Quote:
Originally Posted by EK413 View Post
I'll love to see the aircraft sporting TK livery but makes far more sense in St*r Alliance scheme.
I know it would look great but it will be easier to transfer it back to LOT if painted this way.
Pedro EM no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 9th, 2014, 11:13 PM   #3235
EK413
Registered User
 
EK413's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,891
Likes (Received): 1895

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro EM View Post
I know it would look great but it will be easier to transfer it back to LOT if painted this way.
Right on the mark 😉
__________________
EK413
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We are tonight’s entertainment!
EK413 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 10th, 2014, 05:16 AM   #3236
PiotrG
庶民サンプル
 
PiotrG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: 第2PRL
Posts: 10,259

LN25 ZA230 VT-ANA was rolled out from 40-26 (main 787 FAL) early October 2010. It was first frame built for Air India.

October 7th 2010, outside FAL (red tail behind NTU LAN frame)


Painted one month later, moved to flightline.
image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


After few months and some work which was done on the flightline, moved to storage in various locations around PAE.

RWY 11-29 September 2011
image hosted on flickr


September 2012:
image hosted on flickr


Finally, in April 2013 moved to EMC for change incorporation/re-work. Late May 2013 moved inside EMC.
Outside EMC, May 10th 2013:
image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


June 17th 2013, spotted inside EMC (first from left). All these frames visible on the pics are now completed.





November 26th 2013 emerged from paint hangar, after repaint. Moved again inside EMC for last jobs. In the same day, LN26 ZA231 VT-ANB was completed and moved from EMC to the Fuel Dock.
image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr




After 8 month, change incorporation/re-work was finished at 19th December 2013. In the Fuel Dock that day:


On the flightline, 1 day before frist flight (Janury 8th 2014):


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...630Z/KPAE/KMWH
January 9th 2014 finally airborne, 3 years and 3 months after FAL roll out.
Back from B1:


sources:
http://kpae.blogspot.com/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/flightblogger
__________________

Equario, KaiserSoze liked this post

Last edited by PiotrG; January 10th, 2014 at 07:41 AM.
PiotrG no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 10th, 2014, 10:44 AM   #3237
Theizazo
Theizazo
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Kuwait
Posts: 148
Likes (Received): 179

KQ's 1st Dreamliner

The Pride Of Africa Is Being Inspected By It's Future Owner !

> http://instagram.com/p/i-npT8RdL9/

> http://instagram.com/p/i-moGwxdLW/
__________________

KaiserSoze liked this post
Theizazo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 10th, 2014, 11:05 AM   #3238
fieldsofdreams
PH + SF Super Moderator
 
fieldsofdreams's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Manila • San Francisco
Posts: 18,825
Likes (Received): 11258

I actually like these liveries on a Dreamliner...

Aeromexico Boeing 787-8 (reg. N961AM)


LAN Airlines Boeing 787-8 (reg. CC-BBD)

__________________
Anthony or FOD the MOD • Urban Studies & Planning, SF State, UC Berkeley, and San Jose State
Philippine ForumsSF Bay Area ForumsBay Area TransitNEW! SF Bay Area and NorCal in Pictures
Photo Albums: FlickrPhotobucketInstagram

Rohnert Park • Rio Vista • Richmond • Redwood City • Portola Valley • Pleasanton • Pleasant Hill

Last edited by fieldsofdreams; January 10th, 2014 at 11:11 AM.
fieldsofdreams no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 10th, 2014, 10:08 PM   #3239
Fenix_2007
Fenix_2007
 
Fenix_2007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Bogotá, D.C.
Posts: 15,632
Likes (Received): 16628

Quote:
Originally Posted by Theizazo View Post
KQ's 1st Dreamliner

The Pride Of Africa Is Being Inspected By It's Future Owner !

> http://instagram.com/p/i-npT8RdL9/

> http://instagram.com/p/i-moGwxdLW/
That's the "last" new livery for a 787 that there is word about, right ? Besides Air New Zealand's 787-9, that is.
__________________
Fenix_2007 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 10th, 2014, 10:57 PM   #3240
Momo1435
-----アンジュルム-----
 
Momo1435's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: アルフェナンデンライン
Posts: 35,264
Likes (Received): 63121

The 1st for Air Canada is also on the assembly line right now, 1 position behind the this one for Kenya Airways. The 1st 787-9 that will be painted straight away in the Air New Zealand livery will follow those two.

Plus there's a rumor that the next 787 for LOT will be leased out to Turkish and will get their livery.

And during the year there will be plenty of new liveries. With the current production rate of 10 per month the number of deliveries in 2014 should easily top the 100. I wouldn't be surprised if the number of airlines operating the 787 will have doubled at the end of the year.
__________________
Support your Idols
キタ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ฅ(๑⊙д⊙๑)ฅ!! ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━!!!
Japan Projects & Construction

Zaz965 liked this post
Momo1435 no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
airplane, boeing

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 06:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium