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Old August 28th, 2015, 02:04 AM   #5901
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British Airways launches Dreamliner route to home of Google and Apple in Silicon Valley

Flag carrier knows the way to San Jose in California with only direct service between Europe and the world’s software powerhouse

http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/tr...-route-6316638







This is the kind of route that the A380 could NEVER do ..... and that Boeing predicted would happen with the 787 and be profitable.
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Old August 28th, 2015, 04:08 AM   #5902
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When is Oman Air B787-8 is getting painted ?
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Old August 28th, 2015, 04:43 AM   #5903
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ZA768 is already inside paint hangar in KARA (Acadiana, Louisiana). Should be out within a week or two.
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Old August 28th, 2015, 04:56 AM   #5904
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This is the kind of route that the A380 could NEVER do ..... and that Boeing predicted would happen with the 787 and be profitable.
Well the 787 has been making lower-demand (if that's the right word) intercontinental routes possible and more profitable thanks to it's lower operating costs.
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Old August 28th, 2015, 05:53 AM   #5905
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Well the 787 has been making lower-demand (if that's the right word) intercontinental routes possible and more profitable thanks to it's lower operating costs.
Thats the point though .... to bypass the major hubs and go straight to the destination. Will San Jose to London be a MAJOR busy route? Heck no. But the 787 is the perfect size plane to make it profitable.

Airbus got it wrong with the a380 .....
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Old August 28th, 2015, 10:19 AM   #5906
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NOMO 1435 > Someone earlier started on this A380 issue, and Emirates. I was just qualifying what that person was writing about the A380. Your statement "For several it has been a rather difficult experience, even if it was because of outside causes unrelated to the A380, just look at Malaysian as an example." > is absolutely correct. Unfortunately for Malaysian, they lost 2 B777's, in quick succession, and that brought the airline to a state where they could not survive. With the new management in place, they have decided to concentrate more on domestic operations than international routes. Sad for this airline. Hopefully they will operate their 6 A380's on long haul routes, as there is a demand for this service from Malaysia.

Further, the real battle for market dominance is between the A350 and the B787. Lets see how that pans out by the end of 2016.
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Old August 28th, 2015, 01:25 PM   #5907
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People will always talk down the A380, and for a part they also have a point, but usually it's a bit exaggerated. It's just not smart to come back with faux orders and claims that there are no problems at all, that's also not true.


As for the 787 vs A350, I don't think there will be a clear market dominance for either of the types.

Unless the delivery rates will become exactly the same one of the 2 will see just slightly higher output. Airbus plans to go to 13 per month after reaching 10 per month in 2018. Boeing plans to go to 12 per month next year and to go to 14 by the end of the decade. At the end of the decade this will mean that Boeing will deliver 25 more 787s per year then Airbus will deliver the A350 (168x vs 143x, (the Airbus factories are closed in August, they only have 11 months of production))

Both have a large enough backlog to maintain these rates. As Boeing is already producing 10~11 787s per month their backlog will be delivered sooner then the A350 backlog. But the 787 does see a steady stream of orders coming in. Even if part of those orders are taking up cancelled and deferred delivery slots that have opened up. The A350 orders are coming in a less steady frequency. They had a top year in 2013, but 2012 and 2014 were slow, just like 2015 so far. But that has also to do with the availability, most airlines don't order as early as they used to do around the time the 787 and A350 projects were launched. That will pick up again in the coming years.

What is interesting is that the 787 continued to sell after the A330neo became available. The A330neo has always been presented as a cheap alternative to the 787 with almost similar fuel economics. But the sales of the A330neo are not going as fast as some people predicted, and it didn't stop airlines opting for the 787. Boeing sold 99 787s (firm orders) since the A330neo launch, Airbus sold 145 A330neo's (again only firm orders).

It's not likely that the 787 orders will suddenly dry up and the A350 will pick up again to keep the predicted production rates going well into the 2020s. When we will see both planes being re-engined to pick up large numbers of orders for an even longer period.

By the end of 2016 it will still look very much like the current situation. Both types will still have an enormous backlog. Both will see airlines picking one over the other (or both), both will see enough top-up orders. The 787 will still have a significantly higher production rate (that will only change after 2018). There will be more then 500 787s flying around, compared to less then 100 A350s. Much too early to make any statements on market dominance.
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Old August 28th, 2015, 07:15 PM   #5908
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JA872A All Nippon Airways LN329 just departed CHS on it's delivery flight.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ANA9397

http://www.flightradar24.com/ANA9397/74242f9
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Old August 28th, 2015, 11:20 PM   #5910
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G-VCRU Virgin Atlantic LN338 is currently performing it's B1 flight.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...545Z/KPAE/KMWH
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Old August 28th, 2015, 11:46 PM   #5911
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LN336 ZA826 N809AA 787-8 for American Airlines delivered:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...300Z/KPAE/KDFW

LN338 ZB033 G-VCRU 787-9 for Virgin Atlantic Airways is on its B1 flight:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...545Z/KPAE/KMWH


Around KPAE 8-28-15 by moonm, on Flickr

LN315 ZA839 HB-JJJ 787-8 for PrivatAir did customer flight:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...435Z/KCHS/KMYR

LN339 ZA827 N810AN 787-8 for American Airlines was moved from paint hangar to flightline after paint.

LN342 ZB175 N27958 787-9 for United Airlines completed initial fueling tests yesterday

LN346 ZB362 G-ZBKA 787-9 for British Airways is undergoing initial fueling tests today


Around KPAE 8-28-15 by moonm, on Flickr

aircraft data source: http://nyc787.blogspot.com/
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Old August 29th, 2015, 07:40 AM   #5912
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G-ZBKA British Airways LN346 at fuel dock

G-ZBKA British Airways Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner - C/N 38616 / LN 346 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

N810AN American LN339 is out of paint

N810AN American Airlines Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner - C/N 40628 / LN 339 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

G-VCRU Virgin LN338 Fist flight

G-VCRU Virgin Atlantic Airways Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner - C/N 37972 / LN 338 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

LN 15 Engine Mount

Boeing 787-8 C/N 34491 / LN 15 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

LN 22 getting ready for engine installation.

Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner - C/N 34510 / LN 22 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner - C/N 34510 / LN 22 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner - C/N 34510 / LN 22 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr
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Old August 29th, 2015, 10:27 AM   #5913
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British Airways to fly Dreamliner to Abu Dhabi and Muscat

British carrier will hope to lure Emiratis and Omanis onto its new First Class suites

http://gulfbusiness.com/2015/07/brit.../#.VeFaDSWqpBc



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Abu Dhabi and Muscat passengers can look forward to flying on British Airways’ B787-9 Dreamliners to London this winter.

The Gulf cities have been included among the airline’s first destinations for its Dreamliner, although Delhi will be the aircraft’s launch destination from October 25.

BA’s B787-9s, the first of which is due to arrive in September, are 20ft longer than its 787-8 predecessor (of which the airline has eight), so as well as offering World Traveller (economy), World Traveller Plus (premium economy) and Club World (business class), there’s also room for a new First Class cabin – even if it has only eight seats compared with 14 on other BA long-haul aircraft.

The First Class suites include four new storage areas; a new ottoman next to the adjustable footstool has enough room for shoes, handbags and personal items, while the personal suiter for jackets and coats is now accessible without the customer having to move from their seat. A new locker positioned at eye-level is perfect for smaller personal effects such as tablets, spectacles, passport and wash-bags and a handy mirror has also been fitted to the inside of the locker door for personal grooming.

The seat and in-flight entertainment console has been updated with a new handset, much like a smartphone, integrated into the seat from which travellers can control their in-flight entertainment.

Although Etihad is the largest B787-9 customer, with 41 on order, it doesn’t operate the aircraft to London, preferring to fly its A380s. BA will take its chances competing with the double-decker, much as it operates its B777s/B747s through Dubai while leaving Emirates to scoop up A380 traffic, and compete with Oman Air’s A330-300s between Muscat and London. BA has 42 B787s on order (8 -8s, 22 -9s and 12 -10s).

Gulf travellers can also experience revamped B747 jumbos on select flights to Dubai, Kuwait and Riyadh from September, as well as New York JFK, Chicago, Lagos and Boston.
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Old August 29th, 2015, 01:27 PM   #5914
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Etihad Airways B787-9 landing in Singapore.
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Old August 29th, 2015, 06:45 PM   #5915
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Has Boeing said when will the first 787-10--I believe LN 528--start to be assembled?
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Old August 30th, 2015, 09:46 AM   #5916
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Fuerza Aérea Mexicana (Mexican Air Force) 787-8 Dreamliner [XC-MEX] by aircraftvideos, on Flickr
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Old August 30th, 2015, 03:19 PM   #5917
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It was scheduled to enter service in September 2015, so VIP interior furbishing should be completed now.

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Old August 31st, 2015, 04:32 AM   #5918
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Good news about Thai Airways 787 to Brisbane love the 777 but the Dreamliner will be great on the route even with the nasty seating.

That makes 4 for Brisbane Jetstar and Thai now - Air Canada (2016) and Etihad.
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Old August 31st, 2015, 04:46 AM   #5919
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The tail is look like alitalia , Are they planning to renew their fleet? Dreamliner or XWB?
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Air India B787-8 "Star Alliance" (VT-ANU)
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