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Old May 24th, 2012, 04:23 PM   #701
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JAL could use the 787 to restablish de Tokyo-Săo Paulo route.
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Old May 24th, 2012, 07:25 PM   #702
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Old May 25th, 2012, 01:53 AM   #703
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I have also heard that United is also going to use the new 787 Dreamliner for their Houston-Lagos route eventually replacing the B777 that is currently in use for this route.
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Old May 26th, 2012, 08:39 PM   #704
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It was initially announced that the Houston - Lagos route would be launched with the 787 in 2011. But because of the delays with the 787 they have launched the service with the 777 instead. Since then there hasn't been any official announcement for when the 787 will replacing the 777.


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Indonesia's Lion Air is close to signing a deal for 10 Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner passenger jets, with a total list price of USD$1.9 billion, as the budget carrier aims to tap the long-haul market.

Two sources involved in the deal told reporters that Lion Air prefers the newer carbon-composite 787 to the Airbus A330. The deal is expected to be signed in Jakarta on June 8 as Lion Air celebrates its 12th anniversary.
After their mega 737 Max order it's only logical that they went for Boeing. I wouldn't be surprised if they get some early production slots for the 787 because of the 737 order.
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Old May 26th, 2012, 09:14 PM   #705
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JAL could use the 787 to restablish de Tokyo-Săo Paulo route.
They would still need to stop somewhere before going to Sao Paulo.
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Old May 28th, 2012, 03:10 AM   #706
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I do not know if you interest: in this article dated October 5 2011 Patrice Buret, Italy country manager of Air Canada, lists a series of connections that Air Canada could open with the 787, including a connection between Milan and Toronto:

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Meanwhile, the company is investing to increase the fleet by the end of 2013 thirty-seven new Boeing 787 will enter service. "An investment that traveling together in a large expansion project of our routes," says the carrier's country manager for Italy, Patrice Buret. Among the priority of Air Canada there is a direct flight Milan-Toronto: "Once the new aircraft will likely be drawn that we will open, along with connection to India, Egypt, Philippines and Istanbul."
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Old June 1st, 2012, 09:06 AM   #707
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There were no deliveries in May.

The reason was the extra test flights that had to done because of a major software update and because Air India refuses to take delivery of their 1st 787 before a settlement is reached over delay compensations. It was assumed that this was settled, the airline representatives where already in Seattle. But in the last few days it came out that the Indian government stepped in and decided to play it hard. It's said that they demand 1 Billion dollar as compensation, a figure that is of course completely insane. Boeing will never pay up this kind of money to a single airline. We'll see how this will turn out.


For June it looks a bit better, there are 4 potential deliveries to ANA. And if the dispute with India is settled there could even be more deliveries.

The next 787 that will roll out of the factory in Everett will also be the 1st 787 that won't need any rework. But that doesn't mean that it will delivered straight away, there are still a couple of weeks between the assembly and the delivery. This probably means that it will be delivered to ANA in July.
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Old June 3rd, 2012, 09:06 AM   #708
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There were no deliveries in May.

The reason was the extra test flights that had to done because of a major software update and because Air India refuses to take delivery of their 1st 787 before a settlement is reached over delay compensations. It was assumed that this was settled, the airline representatives where already in Seattle. But in the last few days it came out that the Indian government stepped in and decided to play it hard. It's said that they demand 1 Billion dollar as compensation, a figure that is of course completely insane. Boeing will never pay up this kind of money to a single airline. We'll see how this will turn out.


For June it looks a bit better, there are 4 potential deliveries to ANA. And if the dispute with India is settled there could even be more deliveries.

The next 787 that will roll out of the factory in Everett will also be the 1st 787 that won't need any rework. But that doesn't mean that it will delivered straight away, there are still a couple of weeks between the assembly and the delivery. This probably means that it will be delivered to ANA in July.
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Old June 4th, 2012, 02:27 AM   #709
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Old June 5th, 2012, 12:36 AM   #710
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Thompson getting 787's would be great...but what is the silly logo on the tail all about???!
New Livery could be better with something decent on the tail... they should take a damn hard look at the former user of most of there aircraft "Britannia" who had it right.
If your gonna have an airline make sure it looks something thats proud of itself....Britannia did,Monarch do & Thompson deffo dont.
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Old June 5th, 2012, 07:39 AM   #711
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On June 2, the Tashkent international airport held the first presentation of Boeing-787-8 Dreamliner as part of its stay in the capital. Regional Marketing Director of the Civil Aircraft Division of Boeing Russia Inc. corporation branch (USA) Aleksander Zhabenko gave a tour on board of the aircraft, where he explained all the benefits of the Dreamliner to the media.
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Old June 5th, 2012, 08:32 PM   #712
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Interesting read on the amount of rework that has to be done for the 787 that need rework.
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Boeing 787s require 13 months of rework, concludes UBS

UBS Securities, in a research note issued today, estimates that the Boeing 787s delivered so far spent an average of 13 months getting rework done, with three delivered in April reduced to 9-12 months. Writes UBS:

On average, we estimate that the 11 787s delivered thus far spent 13 months in change-incorporation. While it appears Boeing did not deliver any 787s in May, we estimate that the three delivered in April (LU 37/38/42) spent between 9-12 months in change-incorporation.

Change-incorporation key component of 787 unit costs: Change-incorporation work is a key component of 787 unit costs. We estimate Boeing’s 787 unit production cost at ~$240M in Q1, more than double its assumed average cost at ~$109M over the first 1,100 units. We expect 787 unit costs to trend lower as mix of change-incorporation deliveries lessens.

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Since only a few of the planes that have been delivered so far are very early build 787s you can imagine that it will take more then a year to deliver all of those early birds. Luckily the planes that will roll out of the factory from now on won't need rework anymore, this should have a positive effect on the deliveries in the following months.
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It looks like a solution for the Air India situation is imminent.
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Civil Aviation Minister Ajit Singh Wednesday said the Cabinet Committee on Economic Affairs (CCEA) will decide on Boeing's offer of compensation for the delay in supplying the 787 Dreamliner aircraft.

"They (Boeing) have agreed to a compensation package for the delay in delivery of 787. The compensation solution has been accepted by the Air India board," Ajit Singh told IANS here.

"It (package) will now go to the CCEA, which will decide whether to accept the package or not. We are expecting the CCEA to decide on the matter soon."

According to Singh, if the CCEA gives its nod to the compensation package worked out between the airline and Boeing, Air India will receive three 787s within June itself.

Meanwhile, airline officials have said that the first batch of the aircraft would be initially flown on domestic routes for six-eight weeks to enable faster training of pilots and crew.

The airline has proposed that the first long haul flight of 787 aircraft will be operated on Mumbai-London route in August 2012, followed by an Australia-based operation which will commence soon later.

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If it will get it's final approval we will see 3 deliveries to Air India this month, there are also 4 787s ready for ANA and there will most likely also be a delivery to Qatar. This means that possibly 8 787s could be delivered this month.

The 1st 787 that doesn't need rework has come out of assembly, but it does look like they will wait some with the preparation for delivery. It has come out of the hangar with covers over the windows, just like the 787s that are stored right now. Unlike the earlier planes that need rework this one does already has it's engines attached, but they are also covered up. So it's a bit of a mystery what will happen with this 787 right now. My 2 cents are that ANA won't take delivery of all those 787 at once. They could get 7 in 2 months time, that might be a bit too much to handle all at once. Therefor they might have decided to spread the deliveries out over the next couple of months, storing this one temporally for a delivery after July.
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Old June 6th, 2012, 08:44 PM   #714
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Hopefully Indian government wont be foolish and take the compensation, and have 787 flying to Seoul soon! Thinking JFK might work as well.
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dont think AI has plans to deploy the 787 on the Delhi - Seoul sector. Its Mumbai - London and then the Australian and may be on domestic routes.
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787 on its busy route? Doesnt make sense.
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I guess they want to use the novelty factor of the 787, as the 1st airline to use it to London.
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Old June 6th, 2012, 11:30 PM   #718
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Air India to get three Boeing Dreamliners this month

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Air India is expected to take delivery of three Dreamliner aircraft from Boeing Co this month, civil aviation minister Ajit Singh said, after the two companies agreed on a compensation package for the delayed order. The loss-making state-owned carrier was supposed to receive the first of 27 Dreamliners by the end of May. The compensation package is now awaiting approval from a group of Indian ministers, Singh added. Singh said last month that no Dreamliners would be delivered before the two parties agreed on a compensation package for the delay.

(Reporting by Anurag Kotoky; Editing by Aradhana Aravindan)

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I guess they want to use the novelty factor of the 787, as the 1st airline to use it to London.
Yeah, like for Qatar airways on its Doha-London, but still doesn't make sense for me on such a busy route, tell me if i'm wrong but I honestly don't think so many people are really capable of dissociating a 787 from a 777 or an A330.
There is no 787 effect such as the A380 effect, at least until now, in my opinion.
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that's exactly what was on my mind watching it
Its actualy not a bad livery compared to really bad ones like Finnair.
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