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Old June 19th, 2012, 05:41 AM   #761
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It's not the end product, but after sales support, production rates and the constant PIPs throughout the product's lifespan - something Russian aircraft manufacturers were never able to achieve, and something Sukhoi is trying to combat by tying up with Boeing. This is also something China must deal with if it wants to be a global player.
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The net orders for the 787 in 2012 should have come back into the positive numbers after this convertion of 3 options by Avianca.
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Avianca-Taca converts three 787 options

Latin American airline Avianca-Taca has converted three Boeing 787-8 options, taking its total order of the aircraft type to 15.

Avianca-Taca will receive its first 787 in April 2014, he adds.

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And a day before ANA will take delivery of 2 787s they announced that they converted 4 787-8s for 787-9s.
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ANA switches four Boeing 787-8s for 787-9s

Dreamliner launch customer All Nippon Airways will swap orders to get four Boeing 787-9 jets, the airline announced Tuesday.

ANA said it has switched an order for four 787-8 aircraft, which were to be delivered beginning in 2013, to an order for four of Boeing's larger version of the Dreamliner, the 787-9.

The swap "will give ANA greater flexibility as it expands its international route network," the carrier said in a press statement.

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These are most likely 4 of the early birds that are now destined to go to Lion Air.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 03:50 AM   #763
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Boeing expands Flight Services business to China
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Boeing today announced it has expanded its Flight Services business in China, greatly enhancing training capacity for airlines in the region.

With the introduction of an advanced 787 Dreamliner training suite for pilot and maintenance training, and a newly-installed 747-400 full-flight simulator, the company is tripling its offerings at the Boeing Flight Services Shanghai training campus. The new training devices join an existing 757/767 full-flight simulator at the facility.

"China is one of the fastest-growing and most dynamic aviation markets in the world, and Boeing is committed to giving the Chinese airlines the competitive advantage they need to succeed as they grow," said Sherry Carbary, vice president, Boeing Flight Services.

"Providing new, world-class resources and training focused on the region's 787 and 747 fleets is one way we can bring the Boeing Edge to China."

The Boeing Pilot & Technician Outlook projects the largest demand for global pilots and maintenance technicians will be in the Asia Pacific region. China's expected requirement leads the region's demand with a need for 72,000 new commercial airline pilots and more than 108,000 maintenance technicians over the next 20 years.

"As we celebrate the 40th anniversary of Boeing in China, this is another important step forward in our long-term commitment to serving China's development of the air transport system," said Marc Allen, president of Boeing China. "There is a real need for more pilots in the region, and the expansion of the Boeing training campus in Shanghai is geared to help meet that need."

Chinese customers are already benefiting from the new Boeing training capacity in Shanghai. Crews from Yangtze River Express, Air China and China Cargo have completed 747-400 training. Several crews from Hainan Airlines have completed 787 pilot training.

"Boeing not only produces amazing airplanes, but also delivers innovative services and support throughout the life cycle of the customer fleet," said Ihssane Mounir, vice president of Sales and Marketing for Greater China and Korea, Boeing Commercial Airplanes.

"With the expanded capability at the Boeing Flight Services Shanghai training campus, we will be able to quickly and efficiently provide our services to our customers in China and the Asia-Pacific region."


About the Boeing Edge

Boeing offers a comprehensive portfolio of commercial aviation services, collectively known as the Boeing Edge, bringing value and advantages to customers and the industry.

Boeing Flight Services provides integrated offerings to drive optimized performance, efficiency and safety through advanced flight and maintenance training as well as improved air traffic management and 24/7 flight operations support.

Flight Services provides digital tools and data to enhance overall operations, airport infrastructure, fuel efficiency, flight planning, navigation and scheduling.


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Old June 20th, 2012, 08:06 AM   #764
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ANA swaps 4 787-8's for -9's
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All Nippon Airways (ANA) has adjusted its Boeing 787 order, replacing four -8s with the larger -9 variant.


ANA, the launch customer for the 787 Dreamliner, is keeping its total number of aircraft on order at 55, now split between 36 -8s and 19 -9s.


Four -8s that were scheduled for delivery beginning from ANA's 2013 fiscal year will now be replaced by -9s.


"The decision to order more of the larger 787-9 variant will give ANA greater flexibility as it expands its international route network," ANA said.


ANA has taken delivery of seven of the 55 aircraft. The aircraft entered service in October and has been operating domestic Japanese routes and Tokyo Haneda-Frankfurt, Germany.


The airline plans to launch long-haul 787 services from Tokyo to Seattle and San Jose on the U.S. West Coast in the current fiscal year.

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Union: United is removing 787 cockpit barriers
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United Airlines is paying to remove a gate from some of its newest planes that's meant to protect the cockpit from intruders, according to the union for its pilots.

United is getting Boeing Co.'s newest plane, the 787, later this year. Those planes were to come with a folding metal gate that blocks the cockpit when the door is open, according to the Air Line Pilots Association.

But United is paying extra to have those gates removed, according to a letter from the union to the airline obtained by The Associated Press on Tuesday.


Federal rules do not require the gates, although United has them on its 777s. Most planes flown by U.S. airlines do not have the gates.


Cockpit security became a huge issue because of the hijackings of Sep. 11, 2001, prompting airlines to strengthen all of their cockpit doors.

However, the doors still need to be opened during flights, especially on longer flights when pilots need to use the lavatory or go to bunks while other pilots fly the plane. The secondary barrier blocks access from the passenger cabin to the cockpit even when the door is open.

"It makes no logical sense for a safety and security conscious airline with the history of United to pay for the removal of this device that further protects the flight deck from those with hostile intent," the letter dated Monday said.

United spokeswoman Christen David said secondary barriers are just one component of flight security, and the combination of security measures can vary from one type of plane to the next.

She declined to discuss the barriers in detail, but said "we are thorough in carrying out our security responsibilities for every flight. The safety and security of our employees and customers are our top priorities."

United expects to get at least five 787s this year. The airline is part of Chicago-based United Continental Holdings Inc.

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Old June 21st, 2012, 03:55 AM   #766
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Boeing 787's dimmable windows not dark enough, says ANA
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Boeing Co's launch customer for its 787 Dreamliner, Japan's All Nippon Airways says the plane's electronic dimmable windows are not dark enough for long haul flights and has asked the U.S. aircraft maker to come up with a way to make the plane's cabin darker.

The Japanese airline is looking to install pull down blinds on 787s already delivered, an industry source with knowledge of the matter told Reuters. That is one solution ANA is mulling for two Dreamliners operated on long haul routes, company spokesman Ryosei Nomura confirmed.


"For our passengers to have good sleep, we realised that it is important to offer appropriate darkness during flights especially for long haul," Nomura said.


ANA has ordered 55 787s, a replacement for the 767, making the new jetliner the centerpiece of its fleet plans for the next several years. The carbon composite plane is designed to be more fuel efficient and, therefore, cheaper to operate. It also boast higher cabin pressure and humidity in order to make flying more comfortable.


The 20 percent larger than standard dimmable windows, the first on a commercial passenger jet, darken but do not go opaque.


The U.S. planemaker declined to say whether other 787 customers had asked for darker windows or to discuss how it would meet ANA's request.


"Specific discussions between Boeing and our customers are considered proprietary and we cannot comment on them," Rob Henderson, a Boeing spokesman in Tokyo, said. "The response of our customers and the flying public to the larger, dimmable windows on the 787 has been very favourable," he added


Boeing so far has taken more than 850 orders for its 787, and says it will crank up production to at least 10 aircraft a year by the end of 2013. Glitches such as recent signs of delamination on the rear fuselage of some planes will not, it insists, further delay a project three years behind schedule. Delamination occurs when stress causes layered composite materials to separate.


ANA's local rival Japan Airlines is also a big customer for the 787, with four already flying international routes and another 41 of the jets on order. The carrier said so far it has not asked Boeing for darker windows.


"At this moment, we have not made any such request to Boeing," JAL spokeswoman, Sze Hunn Yap said.


The U.S. company accounts for around 90 percent of commercial plane sales in Japan, the biggest market share it has in any major aviation market.


Apart from the windows, ANA says it is happy with the seven 787s it operates. In the first six months of flying the aircraft on international routes, the plane burned 21 percent less fuel compared with a 767, the carrier said. Boeing's sales pitch claims a 20 percent fuel savings.


ANA added that a survey of passengers found that nine out of 10 said the plane met or exceeded their expectations.
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I can't wait for a picture from the front.


And meanwhile in India.
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Delivery of Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft to Air India may be put off to next month, as the compensation package between Boeing and Air India is likely to be cleared by cabinet committee on economic affairs (CCEA) only next Thursday.

CCEA clearance has been delayed as prime minister Manmohan Singh is away in Mexico to attend the G20 summit. “Since the PM is away, the CCEA will only meet next week (June 28) instead of this week,” civil aviation minister Ajit Singh told Financial Chronicle.

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Old June 23rd, 2012, 05:08 AM   #769
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United expects first Dreamliner in September
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United Airlines reportedly expects to take delivery of its first Boeing 787 Dreamliner airplane in September.

United, which will be the first North American airline to receive the long-awaited and highly anticipated plane, has long said it expects to take delivery in the second half of 2012. A spokeswoman on Friday repeated that statement.


However, a Seattle Post-Intelligencer newspaper blog on Friday cited internal communications at United specifying September as the anticipated delivery month. United and Boeing are both headquartered in Chicago.


The Dreamliner, the first of which was delivered last fall to Japanese carrier All Nippon Airways, is a twin-aisle plane that offers the best fuel economy and range for a craft its size and offers passengers greater comfort while flying.



However, the plane is just as well known for incurring lengthy production delays. Boeing delivered its first 787 about three years late because of design and construction problems.


United, the most dominant airline at Chicago O'Hare and in the region, has said in the past that it would "likely" use a 787 on routes through Chicago, possibly as soon as the fourth quarter of this year. However, it hasn't announced a flight schedule for the aircraft.


LOT Polish Airlines was the first airline to officially announce that it will offer a Chicago O'Hare flight aboard a 787. LOT will begin service in January 2013 between Chicago and Warsaw, Poland.


The Dreamliner is made of a lighter, largely composite structure, which provides greater fuel efficiency and the ability to fly long range.


For passengers, the aircraft has the industry's largest windows and overhead bins. The smoother-riding and quieter plane has wider aisles and seats, and cleaner air using a filtration system to remove offensive odors. The windows are dimmable, via electrochromatic window shades rather than physical pull-down shades.


A recent survey of 787 passengers by ANA showed nine in 10 said their overall experience met or exceeded expectations. A similar number expressed a preference for flying in the Dreamliner over other aircraft, and a quarter of passengers said they would go out of their way to book a flight on the 787 again.
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Qatar's 787 made it's 1st flight.

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After ANA, JAL & Air India this is the 4th Airline that had it's 1st 787 flight, the next 1st flight should be for LAN, Ethiopian or United.
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Momo1435, thanks a lot for sharing!

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Just curious why the registration has skipped A and gone straight to A7-BCB...?
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This would be a very nice modell made by PH or GJ..
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Just curious why the registration has skipped A and gone straight to A7-BCB...?
It didn't since this is the 2nd Qatar 787 that rolled out of the factory. Boeing and/or Qatar decided to make the 2nd one ready for the Farnborough International Air Show instead of the 1st one that already got the A7-BCA registration. The BCA is now in the modification center for all the rework that is needed.


Speaking of the Farnborough International Air Show,

The Qatar 787 will be the 1st Boeing commercial airplane that is set up for a flying display at an airshow since 1984. Since then all Boeing commercial planes have been on static display since they considered it too big a risk for the plane and for the public at the airshow. Airbus on the other hand is famous for it's flying displays with the A380 at such shows.

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In other news,

Aviation week has an article about the initial performance of the 787s for ANA and JAL. The article is titled...

"ANA, JAL Boeing 787 Fuel Burn Performance Beating Expectations"

that should say enough.

It should be noted that the expectations have been lowered before the 1st deliveries. But on the other hand these are still the early built frames that are heavier then expected and they also don't have the engine performance enhancement packages that are still on the way.

The ANA 787 with Rolls Royce engines performed 21% better then the 767-300 ER they are replacing and the GE engines on the JAL 787 with performed 2% better then the RR engines.

article.
http://www.aviationweek.com/Article....-01-470896.xml


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And finally,

United has released a seat map of their 787:
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...0/default.aspx

It will have 219 seats, with 1st class in a 3-3-3 layout for the economy class.

It's scheduled to be delivered in September, although the official statement is still the 2nd half of this year. It wont go into revenue service straight away as the airline will first do more tests and training before it will actually be used.
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It didn't since this is the 2nd Qatar 787 that rolled out of the factory. Boeing and/or Qatar decided to make the 2nd one ready for the Farnborough International Air Show instead of the 1st one that already got the A7-BCA registration. The BCA is now in the modification center for all the rework that is needed.
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Thanks for clearing that up for me... Raised an eyebrow when I noticed the registration...
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With all those 787s standing around for rework it will happen more often with the upcoming deliveries this year.


Here's a nice look into Building 40-24 that used to be a 767 production line and that will become the 787 surge line later this year. Until then it will be used for rework like this Ethiopian 787. The 2 tails in the back are 2 more 787s, 1 for United and 1 for JAL.

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You can judge from the scaffolding at several places around the plane that the rework is quite extensive. And this is not even one of the oldest 787s.
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Qatar's 787 made it's 1st flight.
After ANA, JAL & Air India this is the 4th Airline that had it's 1st 787 flight, the next 1st flight should be for LAN, Ethiopian or United.
By the time Air India starts commercially flying its 787...the 797s will be out!!
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The committee that has to decide on taking Boeing compensation offer should have had it's meeting today, but nothing has come out in the press about it. It's still pending. The pilot strike is also turning nasty since some of the pilots went on hunger strike early this week, 2 of them are now in hospital. They got a valid point about the working hours, but the whole 787 pilot issue was just nonsense. The original Air India pilots didn't want that former Indian Airlines (the 2 airlines merged last year) would be trained for the 787. Although the most recent news that has come out suggest that the strikers want to end the strike if Air India revokes the termination orders of 101 of the pilots that are now on strike. So maybe we will see an announcement on the 787 when an agreement is reached ending the strike.

In the meantime Boeing has deferred 1 Air India 787 that is currently in assembly, now it will go to JAL. It should roll out in the 2nd week of July.


All these issues resulted in just 2 deliveries for the month June. Predictions where up to 8 deliveries, but that was just a bit too optimistic in the end.

ANA was the airline that took the 2 deliveries. They should have gotten 1 more, but the latest delivery was delayed at the last minute and will now be delivered on July 1st. Hopefully it will be just the start of a better month of deliveries.


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2 787s for Air India on the flightline in Everett that are ready for delivery had their registry changed from a Indian VT to an American N registry. This could mean that they will fly out somewhere as planes owned by Boeing, just like when one of the Air India 787s visited Delhi in March. That one also had a temporary N registration, and was not delivery as some people thought. But it could also mean that Air India won't be taking delivery of these 2 planes and that these 2 will go another airline. I'm sure there's a line in front of the Boeing offices with airlines that want to pick up these 2 planes, so it's not a big drama. But for the number of deliveries this month it would not be good since these 2 need to be retrofitted and repainted before they can go to another costumer.
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Boeing hikes 20-year market forecast
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U.S. planemaker Boeing hiked its 20-year market forecast, predicting demand for 34,000 new aircraft worth US$4.5 trillion, on growth in emerging regions and as airlines seek efficient new planes to counter high fuel costs.

Many airlines are facing tough conditions as consumers and businesses in austerity-hit regions cut back on travel, while high fuel prices are taking their toll on profit.


Boeing said on Tuesday the market for new planes would become more geographically balanced over the next two decades, with the Asia-Pacific region leading the way in deliveries, as markets like China and India continued to grow.


The company had last year forecast demand for 33,500 new passenger aircraft and freighters worth US$4 trillion by 2030.


"Robust growth in China, India and other emerging markets is a major factor in the increased deliveries over the next 20 years," Boeing said.
The company said airline traffic was forecast to grow at a 5 percent annual rate over the next 20 years, with cargo traffic seen growing at a rate of 5.2 percent.


It saw the world fleet doubling over the next two decades.


"Low-cost carriers, with their ability to stimulate traffic with low fares, are growing faster than the market as a whole," the company said.


Boeing said there was strong demand to replace older, less fuel-efficient aircraft, with replacement accounting for 41 percent of new deliveries in the forecast, which runs to 2031.


The Chicago-based company said it saw a market for 23,240 single-aisle aircraft over the next two decades -- a category that includes its 737 and rival Airbus's A320 -- worth US$2.03 trillion.


It predicted demand for 7,950 twin-aisle aircraft -- such as its 787 Dreamliner -- worth US$2.08 trillion and 790 large aircraft -- the Airbus A380 or Boeing 747 -- worth US$280 billion over 20 years.


Two fifths of the demand for widebody long-range aircraft would come from Asian airlines, Boeing said.


It cut its forecast for the freighter market, blaming a cargo market that remains sluggish. It said it expected the world freighter fleet to nearly double from 1,740 aircraft today to 3,200 by 2031. Last year it had forecast the fleet would reach 3,500 by 2030.
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