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Old October 4th, 2012, 12:45 AM   #1001
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Old October 4th, 2012, 09:49 AM   #1002
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It all becomes a bit unclear what is happening with Qatar and the 787.
I don't think it's just with their 787, but their business as a whole. There have been rumors about business developments and partnerships between Qatar and oneworld as well as IAG, and two credible news agencies have reported on such while Qatar is clearly denying these reports. They seem to be in a tango dance with everything right now.
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Old October 4th, 2012, 09:52 AM   #1003
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The 2nd 787 for Ethiopian, ET-AOR has been delivered on Wednesday.

It flew out 20 minutes ago on a non-stop 15 hour flight to Addis Ababa.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ETH9202

delivery stats:
Ethiopian: 2
October: 1
2012: 24
Total delivered: 27

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Old October 4th, 2012, 12:19 PM   #1004
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Finally a delivery- was going to post that myself!!
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Old October 4th, 2012, 07:32 PM   #1005
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On this weeks weekly order update Boeing added an order for 3 787s for an undisclosed costumer.

This brings the total orders now to 838. And this years net total to -22 (Gross Orders: 38). With all these small orders trickling in I can see even with the 60 cancellations a positive number for the net orders at the end of the year.
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Old October 4th, 2012, 08:21 PM   #1006
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On this weeks weekly order update Boeing added an order for 3 787s for an undisclosed costumer.

This brings the total orders now to 838. And this years net total to -22 (Gross Orders: 38). With all these small orders trickling in I can see even with the 60 cancellations a positive number for the net orders at the end of the year.
I wonder how many 787s will Emirates order because it is currently the largest operator of the 777s...
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Old October 4th, 2012, 10:16 PM   #1007
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Emirates has been on and off about ordering the 787. As for the 777s they fly, the most are 777-300ER that is bigger then the 787-10 will become. And Emirates has been very about wanting the bigger 777-9X to replace those oppose to the smaller 787 or even the A350-1000 for that matter.

But they have shown interest at several points during the last couple of years, even very recently. So they might order it, but then it would be for the routes that are currently operated by the A330 and the A340. So don't expect a mega order like the 90 A380s or the 142 777-300ERs, but then again any number above 20 is already a big order of course.

In the end of the day it's really a mater of we have to wait and see. It depends on what Boeing will do with the 777X project and how the A350 program will turn out.

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aspireaviation.com published an interesting article about among other things the 787.

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* Production ramp-up, weight reduction biggest 787 challenges as risk declines
* A 787-8 between LN66 & LN90 due to be delivered still 4 tonnes overweight
* 787-8 to miss LN90 MEW & OEW weight targets
* First batch 787-9 to meet MEW targets, later-built ones 2% lighter
* Launch of 787-10X imminent, firm configuration H2 2014, roll-out H1 2017 & EIS 2018/19

777x points

* Authority to Offer (ATO) of 777X pushed back
* Trade-off between CFRP & metallic wing still ongoing
* Metallic wing to be 5% worse in fuel efficiency than CFRP wing
* Preparations for a full-scale demonstrator taking place behind 40-25 and 40-26 buildings for 777X wing

full article:
http://www.aspireaviation.com/2012/1...e-eads-merger/
The 787-8 is still overweight, even after Line Number 90 that was earlier reported to be 1st one that reached the weight target. The problem is the availability of lighter 787-9 parts that will also be used on the 787-8, only when those parts readily available it will make the 787-8 reach is initial weight targets. The 787-9 will hit it's weight targets straight away and will even be 2% lighter later in the project.

And even though the 787-8 is still overweight it "exceeded expectations in terms of fuel efficiency".


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And even though this one has yet to be firmed it's another small order for the 787.

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Cameroon orders two Boeing Dreamliners for $429 mln

Oct 3 (Reuters) - Cameroon's government has agreed to buy two Boeing 787 Dreamliners for 218 billion CFA francs ($428.77 million) for its new national carrier Camair-Co.

"The procedure is already very advanced and a delivery date has been fixed... The aircraft will enter service in 2015," the state-owned company's commercial director Alphonse Bea said in a statement.
full story:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...pe=marketsNews


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And this article suggest that Air India still has some financial issues that are preventing them taking delivery of 787s.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...e-journal.html

Now Boeing steps in and gives them a loan just to get things moving.

One of the reasons for this could be that Air India has not found a lessor that wants to agree to a sales and leaseback construction for the 787 that have already been delivered.

But at least we know that the 3rd one should fly out any time now.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 02:06 PM   #1008
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Yup-

http://www.postandcourier.com/articl...ilt-787-friday
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Old October 5th, 2012, 05:42 PM   #1009
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The 1st 787 build in Charleston was delivered today.

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Boeing Delivers First South Carolina-built 787 Dreamliner

NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C., Oct. 5, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA) today marked a historic milestone with delivery of the first 787 Dreamliner built at its North Charleston, S.C., facility to Air India.

The delivery continues the momentum of the 787 Dreamliner's entry into revenue service by customers globally and marks the beginning of a new era of commercial airplane production in South Carolina.

"Within just three years of breaking ground, we have flown and delivered our first airplane built at Boeing South Carolina," said Jack Jones, vice president and general manager, Boeing South Carolina. "This is a tribute to the remarkable Boeing South Carolina team and the support we have received from our airline customers, our supplier partners and the Boeing enterprise, as well as the relationship we have with the State of South Carolina."

Work on the Boeing South Carolina Final Assembly and Delivery Center began in November 2009. Production of the first South Carolina-built 787 began in mid-2011 and the completed airplane rolled out of the factory in April.

Boeing South Carolina fabricates, integrates and assembles the midbody and aftbody fuselage sections for all 787 Dreamliners. Completed sections are joined in South Carolina Final Assembly, or transported via the Dreamlifter to 787 Final Assembly in Everett, Wash.

"We're delighted to be the first airline in the world to take delivery of a Dreamliner from this beautiful factory and look forward to taking many more," said Air India Board Member K.M. Unni. "The 787 is an airplane with unmatched efficiency and technology, which will help in our airline's turnaround plan."

Dinesh Keskar, senior vice president of Asia Pacific and India Sales, Boeing Commercial Airplanes, praised Boeing's long, successful partnership with Air India, including delivery in September of its first two of 27 Dreamliners. "With two 787s successfully introduced to Air India's fleet, passengers are enjoying breakthrough features such as larger windows, lower cabin altitude and unprecedented flying experience," said Keskar.

Today's delivery marks the 28th 787 Dreamliner delivered to date. Boeing South Carolina will increase final assembly production to three 787s per month by the end of 2013.

The Boeing 787 Dreamliner is the first commercial jetliner made primarily of advanced composite materials. It offers exceptional passenger comfort features, including cleaner air, a lower cabin altitude, higher humidity, bigger windows that dim electronically and more overhead storage space. Airlines appreciate its fuel efficiency, which is 20 percent better than other airplanes in its class and results in 20 percent lower carbon emissions.

Boeing press release:
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2438
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Delivery stats:
Air India: 3
October: 2
2012: 25
Total delivered: 28
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Old October 6th, 2012, 12:17 AM   #1010
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Just confirmed to me from Boeing that the company has indeed delivered the first 787 to Qatar Airways. This aircraft is ZA461 (LN 58, A7-BCB) will remain at Everett for a couple more weeks to finish work on the Thales IFE system and then there will be a formal delivery ceremony around 17th or 18th before the aircraft is flown away to Doha. Boeing now has delivered 29 total 787 to 7 customers. Thus far in 2012 Boeing has delivered 26 787s.
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Old October 6th, 2012, 12:28 AM   #1011
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If it's actually true = confirmed by multiple sources (there's just 1 source that can be considered questionable when it comes to deliveries) it's the 1st time that 2 787s where delivered on the same day.

Delivery stats:
Qatar Airways: 1
October: 3
2012: 26
Total delivered: 29

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confirmed by Reuters.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8L602320121006
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Old October 6th, 2012, 10:09 PM   #1012
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Boeing delivers first 787 built in South Carolina factory to Air India

NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C., Oct. 5, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing (BA) today marked a historic milestone with delivery of the first 787 Dreamliner built at its North Charleston, S.C., facility to Air India.

The delivery continues the momentum of the 787 Dreamliner's entry into revenue service by customers globally and marks the beginning of a new era of commercial airplane production in South Carolina.

"Within just three years of breaking ground, we have flown and delivered our first airplane built at Boeing South Carolina," said Jack Jones, vice president and general manager, Boeing South Carolina. "This is a tribute to the remarkable Boeing South Carolina team and the support we have received from our airline customers, our supplier partners and the Boeing enterprise, as well as the relationship we have with the State of South Carolina."

Work on the Boeing South Carolina Final Assembly and Delivery Center began in November 2009. Production of the first South Carolina-built 787 began in mid-2011 and the completed airplane rolled out of the factory in April.

Boeing South Carolina fabricates, integrates and assembles the midbody and aftbody fuselage sections for all 787 Dreamliners. Completed sections are joined in South Carolina Final Assembly, or transported via the Dreamlifter to 787 Final Assembly in Everett, Wash.

"We're delighted to be the first airline in the world to take delivery of a Dreamliner from this beautiful factory and look forward to taking many more," said Air India Board Member K.M. Unni. "The 787 is an airplane with unmatched efficiency and technology, which will help in our airline's turnaround plan."

Dinesh Keskar, senior vice president of Asia Pacific and India Sales, Boeing Commercial Airplanes, praised Boeing's long, successful partnership with Air India, including delivery in September of its first two of 27 Dreamliners. "With two 787s successfully introduced to Air India's fleet, passengers are enjoying breakthrough features such as larger windows, lower cabin altitude and unprecedented flying experience," said Keskar.

Today's delivery marks the 28th 787 Dreamliner delivered to date. Boeing South Carolina will increase final assembly production to three 787s per month by the end of 2013.

The Boeing 787 Dreamliner is the first commercial jetliner made primarily of advanced composite materials. It offers exceptional passenger comfort features, including cleaner air, a lower cabin altitude, higher humidity, bigger windows that dim electronically and more overhead storage space. Airlines appreciate its fuel efficiency, which is 20 percent better than other airplanes in its class and results in 20 percent lower carbon emissions.

Contact:Tim Deaton
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The aircraft is due to depart North Charleston at 3 PM local time and fly to Delhi Via Frankfurt.
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Old October 9th, 2012, 01:58 AM   #1014
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Here it is:

http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/AIC170
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Old October 9th, 2012, 06:28 AM   #1015
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They are looking nice, cant wait to see the Aeroflot one!
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787 Production Rate Steadily Increasing

The 787 production rate is steadily increasing as Boeing looks to load a new 787 into the assembly tooling in the two assembly bays at Everett once every 7 days (at least for the next one month). ZA272 (LN 86, SP-LRC) for Polish LOT is due to load into position 1 in 40-26 on Oct. 11. One week later on Oct. 18, ZA273 (LN 87, SP-LRD) also for LOT will load in position 1 in 40-24. Finally on Oct. 25 ZA274 (LN 88, SP-LRE) will load in position 1 in 40-26. This rate (excluding Charleston built 787s) is about 4 per month. Charleston looks to be running at about 0.66 airplanes every month (2 airplanes every 3 months) though it is expected that they will hit one per month shortly. Given these rates, Boeing is very close, if not already there, at producing 787s at a rate of 5/month.

The issues facing them is now clearing the backlog both at Everett and Charleston. Between the two delivery centers there are 16 787s that are ready for pre-flight or are into their test flight activities. Boeing has already delivered 3 787s this month but tentatively have 9 more deliveries scheduled between Oct. 18 and Oct. 26th. It is possible for these 9 aircraft to be delivered but it is all dependent on both factors that are within Boeing's control (technical issues, allocation of resources needed to prepare and test fly the assembled 787s) as well as factor's out of Boeing's control (dealing with mercurial customers such as Air India, Qatar Airways and the country of China). Several handovers should be a no brainer: Ethiopian Airlines (2), United Airlines (1), ANA (1) and LAN (1). That is 5 airplanes right there. The ones that are questionable are Qatar Airways (2), Air India (1) and Hainan Airlines (1), and China Southern (1). With the Chinese carriers, the issue is the certification from CAAC (China's Civil Aviation Authority). It is unknown what the issues despite FAA and EASA certification. CAAC has to certify the 787 for use by Chinese carriers.

Lastly, Boeing has pulled out two 787s from 40-26. ZA271 (LN 78 (SP-LRB) for Polish LOT went to the paint hangar at Everett and ZA432 (LN 79, B-2730) for Hainan Airlines was pulled out to the 40-51 ramp area. Given the extended time that these two airplanes spent in final assembly I expect that there are very few to no assembly tasks remaining on these frames. Additionally ZA511 (LN 63, JA816A) for ANA conducted taxi runs but could not perform its first flight due to weather consideration as Boeing has stringent weather requirements for B-1 flights.
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From Qatar Airways twitter feed
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Old October 11th, 2012, 08:11 AM   #1019
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Looks like QR is ready to step up its service indeed... Where will it send its first 787?
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^Seoul? Hopefully. Need 787 there. dont wanna wait for Korean Air to get it in 201 or so.
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